Value of: Kirill Kaprizov

[CanadienShark]

I think Kaprizov is dead set on being a UFA.
He has his sights set on going to a contending team in the spotlight. He’ll be in the prime of his career and get a truck load of cash from whoever…
I see him going to a big market.
NYR/LA/Chicago etc

NYR will have a solid group that’s been in the playoffs regularly…. Panarin and Troubas caps coming off the books. Imo, that’s where he’ll end up….
LA will likely be a contender in the west as well……
Chicago probably still needs a bit more time to cook.

Kaprizov to Chicago would be scary. Him and Bedard... Yikes.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Then he'll just walks and Minnesota will get nothing. It is better?

I mean, pretty much yeah. I’d rather have the one year of Kaprizov than the junk offered.

 

[CanadienShark]

Lafreniere, Kakko, Trouba for Kaprizov.

Who says no?

Rangers free up $3m and get a star for 2 seasons to compete. The Wild get a very good young winger, a guy that needs a change but could still thrive and Trouba who could be flipped to elsewhere as someone would take him, especially with retention.

It won't happen but still.

Wild say no. Kakko has no value. Trouba is a huge cap dump and Lafreniere alone doesn't even sniff Kaprizov.

 

[67 others]

Which is why I compared him to Karlsson for actual value.

Pacioretty was mentioned because the return wasn't that hot despite him being a consistent 30+ goal scorer with an extended contract.

Kaprisov is way better than Karlsson too lol. Players like Kaprisov who are 26 don't get traded very often

 

[dgibb10]

Kaprisov is way better than Karlsson too lol. Players like Kaprisov who are 26 don't get traded very often

Kaprizov isn't 26. Also did you watch prime erik karlsson?

 

[67 others]

Kaprizov isn't 26. Also did you watch prime erik karlsson?

Pre surgery ? Yes I did. Post surgery isn't the same.

To be fair I thought we were talking the recent karlsson trade

Did you mean his initial trade to San Jose?

Karlsson fetched 1st round pick Josh Norris, a 1st round pick that year, two second round picks, Chris Tierney and a top 4 RHD And another prospect

 

[pth2]

To be fair I thought we were talking the recent karlsson trade

To be fair, you're criticizing my take based on your lack of reading comprehension.

Of course I was referring to the initial Karlsson trade, when he was 28 and a transformational player. Kaprizov is currently 27.

 

[ref19]

A lot. Top 3 winger in the game

 

[Mrb1p]

I raise Caufield again. Cole+ what does it?

 

[Digitalbooya]

I raise Caufield again. Cole+ what does it?

Demidov

 

[Kaiden Ghoul]

Caufield
Beck
1st FLA 2025

 

[Mrb1p]

Demidov

Okay but seriously

 

[pth2]

Okay but seriously

Meh, he just wouldn't be a fit. He's 2 years older than Suzuki, who is the oldest player in the "new" core. He's 7 years older than Slafkovsky, 8 years older than Reinbacher and 9 years older than Demidov. None of those 3 would be in their prime (if Montreal could make the deal without losing any of the 3) while Kaprizov is still in his. He'd probably be in the "overpaid" part of his contract before the rest of the team matured.

Acquiring him would cost Montreal assets they need to eventually contend.

Any trade to get Kaprizov to Montreal would make Montreal a team closer to the playoffs and farther from serious contention.

So, no thanks.

 

[Mrb1p]

Meh, he just wouldn't be a fit. He's 2 years older than Suzuki, who is the oldest player in the "new" core. He's 7 years older than Slafkovsky, 8 years older than Reinbacher and 9 years older than Demidov. None of those 3 would be in their prime (if Montreal could make the deal without losing any of the 3) while Kaprizov is still in his. He'd probably be in the "overpaid" part of his contract before the rest of the team matured.

Acquiring him would cost Montreal assets they need to eventually contend.

Any trade to get Kaprizov to Montreal would make Montreal a team closer to the playoffs and farther from serious contention.

So, no thanks.

Caufield+

Stop being difficult. The ream is starved fie offense.

 

[pth2]

Caufield+

Stop being difficult. The ream is starved fie offense.

The added goals now would be at the expense of goals in the future. The goals now won't change much of anything, the goals in the future might contribute to some more significant success.

 

[67 others]

To be fair, you're criticizing my take based on your lack of reading comprehension.

Of course I was referring to the initial Karlsson trade, when he was 28 and a transformational player. Kaprizov is currently 27.

Yup my bad. I was skimming this thread for the first time and just saw your 2nd post quoted mentioning Karlsson, not your first post from earlier. My mind went to the latest Karlsson trade.

In any case, after surgery when he was clearly not going to be the same player, his value was our best blue chip Center prospect, our ranked 2nd best prospect(Balcers at the time), a 1st , two 2nd's, a top 4 RHD, and a middle 6 defensive C

 

[Digitalbooya]

Okay but seriously

The serious answer is your team is not a contender for Kaprizov if you start your offer with Caufield and are not willing to give a top prospect. Caufield is not appealing as a one dimensional midget winger. We have enough tiny guys on our team already.

 

[Mrb1p]

The serious answer is your team is not a contender for Kaprizov if you start your offer with Caufield and are not willing to give a top prospect. Caufield is not appealing as a one dimensional midget winger. We have enough tiny guys on our team already.

Demidov is too much.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Demidov is too much.

Not by himself.

 

[pth2]

Demidov is too much.

The problem is that a team that the top prospects from a team that just had 2 top-5 picks in a row are going to be better than those from a better team.... so if Hage were on the table, for example, it could be seen as a "lesser" prospect, yet it would be as strong an offer, prospect-wise, as what a stronger team could offer. Same with Habs 1st vs Florida's first.

 

[Mrb1p]

Not by himself.

By himself he is too much for me. I expect Demidov to land around where Kaprizov is. The uncertainty of his future is heavily counterbalanced by the salary and extended team control though.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Caufield
Beck
1st FLA 2025

lol not even close. The fact it’s not even a Montreal 1st round pick is just a bad faith proposal.

The problem is that a team that the top prospects from a team that just had 2 top-5 picks in a row are going to be better than those from a better team.... so if Hage were on the table, for example, it could be seen as a "lesser" prospect, yet it would be as strong an offer, prospect-wise, as what a stronger team could offer. Same with Habs 1st vs Florida's first.

Top 5 players at their position generally pull really good prospects.

By himself he is too much for me. I expect Demidov to land around where Kaprizov is. The uncertainty of his future is heavily counterbalanced by the salary and extended team control though.

Classic HFBoards. Non-generational prospects being worth more than a top 5 player at his position in his prime.

 

[Mrb1p]

lol not even close. The fact it’s not even a Montreal 1st round pick is just a bad faith proposal.

Top 5 players at their position generally pull really good prospects.

Classic HFBoards. Non-generational prospects being worth more than a top 5 player at his position in his prime.

I think you overrate Kaprizovs value. What do you expect as an offer? Would you trade Buium for Josh Morrissey?

 

[Kaiden Ghoul]

lol not even close. The fact it’s not even a Montreal 1st round pick is just a bad faith proposal.

Top 5 players at their position generally pull really good prospects.

Classic HFBoards. Non-generational prospects being worth more than a top 5 player at his position in his prime.

Lol if you think a team will break the bank while not knowing if Kaprisov would resign with them, huge difference in value between short term deal that land him in ufa vs long term deal/Rfa years

 

[pth2]

lol not even close. The fact it’s not even a Montreal 1st round pick is just a bad faith proposal.

Top 5 players at their position generally pull really good prospects.

My point was just that one teams top prospect can easily be another teams 4th best prospect.

Toronto or Colorado's best prospect might be seen as being equivalent to Hage, who is likely Montreal's 4th or 5th best prospect.

But you're right that Kaprizov would pull a nice return.... though until his contract status is clear, teams in locations that have problems re-signing their players might want to avoid getting hosed in a trade when the guy doesn't then want to stick around (look at Ottawa with Debrincat and Chychrun, for example).