Player Discussion Kirby Dach: Welcome to Montreal

[Trembz]

So is this kid just not going to get a contract or did I miss something

They had an article in The Athletic yesterday stating negotiations have barely begun and they should be getting into that within the next week or two.

 

[cphabs]

You insinuated that they might trade him next summer, after… a year, if the experiment is ‘’declared a failure’’. Which is far from enough time to let him find his ground and let him develop in peace. You don’t acquire a young center with the idea of trading him a year later lol.

It’s called risk management. As I’ve said before, capitalism drives socialist/globalists insane because the market drives the narrative. Not their historically failed ideology. Dach is a low risk high reward prospect at 21 years old. Especially in a capped profit sharing league.

 

[Redux91]

All the hoopla just makes me laugh lol
Over dissection again
Watch him do really well lol, got a great feeling

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Weird for something that looks quite easy to achieve. Habs can go 10-15 % over the cap until the day before opening the season. They can easily sign Dach and Primeau right now. Many options are open to go under the cap: Byron and OR Price on LTIR; trade one of Hoffman, Armia, Drouin, Dvorak.....

They do not have cap room. Price and Byron count against the cap in the off season whether they are on LTIR or not.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I’m as excited for Dach as I am for Slaf myself.

 

[Tyson]

Does he rate a contract similar to Kaako?

 

[26Mats]

It’s called risk management. As I’ve said before, capitalism drives socialist/globalists insane because the market drives the narrative. Not their historically failed ideology. Dach is a low risk high reward prospect at 21 years old. Especially in a capped profit sharing league.

Yet our capitalist owners insisted on a salary cap that denied the players the market system to lower risk and create cost certainty.

I don't think capitalism and socialism have much to do with the Kirby Dach trade.

 

[cphabs]

Yet our capitalist owners insisted on a salary cap that denied the players the market system to lower risk and create cost certainty.

I don't think capitalism and socialism have much to do with the Kirby Dach trade.

Cost “certainty”? That’s called socialism. What we have here, finally, in the front office? Is a bunch of capitalists!

 

[SwiftyHab]

Cost “certainty”? That’s called socialism. What we have here, finally, in the front office? Is a bunch of capitalists!

Can we not get spiral into a ridiculous debate around political philosophies? I know it’s summer and nothings happening but maybe go outside and have a walk or something

 

[26Mats]

Cost “certainty”? That’s called socialism. What we have here, finally, in the front office? Is a bunch of capitalists!

Yes, the capitalists (the owners league wide) wanted cost certainty...

We have (hopefully) good hockey decision makers. Nothing to do with your concepts of capitalism and socialism.

 

[schwang26]

All the hoopla just makes me laugh lol
Over dissection again
Watch him do really well lol, got a great feeling

I think the Hawks gave up on him too soon and didn't really want to focus on his development. The Habs have put together a potentially stellar team for development and skills and I think they're in great shape for these "reclamation" projects if you could call Dach that.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Yes, the capitalists (the owners league wide) wanted cost certainty...

We have (hopefully) good hockey decision makers. Nothing to do with your concepts of capitalism and socialism.

Capitalists? Do they play for the Washington franchise?

 

[1909]

They do not have cap room. Price and Byron count against the cap in the off season whether they are on LTIR or not.

They won't count when season starts as soon as they are placed on LTIR.

 

[cphabs]

Yes, the capitalists (the owners league wide) wanted cost certainty...

We have (hopefully) good hockey decision makers. Nothing to do with your concepts of capitalism and socialism.

There is no consequence for being a turd franchise in this league.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

You guys need to go do something for the last few weeks of Summer.

The stone has bled dry on the Dach acquisition and the Slafkovsky pick.

We could start awarding these:

 

[cphabs]

We could start awarding these:

And here you are…

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

And here you are…

I rarely ever post in this thread.

Find my last comment before this one before jumping to conclusions.

Haven't posted in either threads in weeks.

So now that I come by to make a joke about beating a dead horse, it makes me part of that?

Why not make the same comment to W3K as what he said boils down to the same?

 

[WeThreeKings]

I rarely ever post in this thread.

Find my last comment before this one before jumping to conclusions.

Haven't posted in either threads in weeks.

So now that I come by to make a joke about beating a dead horse, it makes me part of that?

Why not make the same comment to W3K as what he said boils down to the same?

They could, but whoever they are, I wouldn't see it

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

They could, but whoever they are, I wouldn't see it

Ouch

 

[26Mats]

There is no consequence for being a turd franchise in this league.

Monopoly capitalists love sure monopoly profits and barriers to entry.

Funny thing is, if you take classes at Columbia Business School, as I did, all they teach you about is how to avoid free market competition and find a monopoly situation

Could Quebec City have a profitable team that would benefit the people of Quebec and its owners? Sure. But the monopoly capitalists are colluding to not allow it....

 

[Redux91]

I think the Hawks gave up on him too soon and didn't really want to focus on his development. The Habs have put together a potentially stellar team for development and skills and I think they're in great shape for these "reclamation" projects if you could call Dach that.

The best part about it all is the Hawks needed this guy to be the 1C eventually,

But WE don't lol, the expectations and in turn some pressure should alleviate a BIT, seeing as how we really just need this guy to reach 2C now (basically the same reasoning I was OK taking Wright)

I'm so sick of reading about how people can't comprehend that you are sometimes, you know..NOT a finished product by 21????
People viewing 150 NHL games as "this is all he's done so far?" Instead of "YES already 150 NHL games under the belt, at least the ice is broken" is just classic distinguishing people who are glass half full and glass half empty really

 

[BLONG7]

Assuming Dach has a contract offer, and we are waiting on his camp.............and of course for Hoffman, Drouin and Armia to all get dealt!

 

[Redux91]

So is this kid just not going to get a contract or did I miss something

We... have no money?
Clearly someone has to be moved still
And if they plan to put Slaf in NHL as well we will need even more cash off the books

I dont know if the plan is to wait for Price/Byron's 13.9 million to go LTIR,
That would obviously be enough to "call up" Slaf, but that still doesnt solve the Dach problem as you'd obviously like him to have a deal before the season starts/LTIR activates

So again to me, all signs point to someone else being shipped for peanuts and it smells like 3 yrs X 2.2 mill deal personally

 

[ottawa]

We... have no money?
Clearly someone has to be moved still
And if they plan to put Slaf in NHL as well we will need even more cash off the books

I dont know if the plan is to wait for Price/Byron's 13.9 million to go LTIR,
That would obviously be enough to "call up" Slaf, but that still doesnt solve the Dach problem as you'd obviously like him to have a deal before the season starts/LTIR activates

So again to me, all signs point to someone else being shipped for peanuts

You can go over the cap in the off-season by 10 or 15% so waiting for Price/Byron would have no effect.

 

[Redux91]

-You can go over the cap in the off-season by 10%

-so waiting for Price/Byron would have no effect.

Well, I'm not sure how we can do one thing... without the other? Lol

So going your way, yes, sign Dach, be over the cap a bit... but you're not allowed to be over the cap when the season starts...
But when season starts , WORD is Byron is "good chance" LTIR, and MAYBE Price is LTIR, odds are, but no guarantee yet

You see what I'm getting at? "Good chance, odds are, maybe" isnt very concrete when you ABSOLUTELY have to be under cap come oct 5

So obviously they arent signing Dach at the moment for these very reasons
I'm betting HuGo would right now rather be cap compliant and need to sign someone still and get to it eventually than be over the cap and NEED to trade hoffman or whoever for "future considerations" because you never know Carey might "give it a go" you know
So if Careys 10 mill doesnt go LTIR, you need 5mill+ liberated for Dach+Slaf, and this is the hold up right now