Player Discussion Kirby Dach: Welcome to Montreal

[Habsfan18]

When you can buy low on a 6’4 21-year old C with a high skill level, you do it.

I’ll miss Romy, but this is a project you take on 10/10 if you get the chance.

I like it.

 

[cphabs]

Don't know if this has been brought in the discussion or not, but....

In the 2019 draft who was selected before Dach and by which team?

Kaapo Kakko - NYR

Kinda gives the feeling that someone wanted a do over.

Interesting

 

[eklund the clown]

McCarron made us bigger up front too

Yes McCarron and KK had something in common that Dach doesn't .Dach can actually skate.

 

[417]

Habs fans PTSD is a real thing...we whined all year about losing 1st overall.

Then the moment we got 1st overall, we whined how it was a weak draft.

Y'all don't deserve shit! lol

 

[River Meadow]

More of a question of ability. His size + stickandling + skating is a tantalizing combo and scouts tend to overlook production when it comes to players with that profile.

So.. basically like Slaf.

 

[Ezpz]

I’m on board with the Dach project! I’m pulling for him!

But if we were gonna trade Romanov, i might have called the Jets and try to work something for Dubois. Maube Dvorak+Romanov+26th?

This was my thinking. If they're going for a youngish center why not pay a slightly higher price for Dubois who wants to be here and is certainly at least a 2C? Dubois isn't going to go for much more than what Dach did because he doesn't want to sign in most cities.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Major overpayment giving up a top 4 D who has proved he is a legitimate NHL player.

Romy's getting so overrated here. Dach has way more upside than Romy and is a big 21 year old center. He has the 3rd most points of any player from the 2019 draft and had 6 points in 9 games in the playoff bubble two years ago. Size and skill up the middle are very hard to land. Can't wait to see MSL go to work with him and try to untap some of that potential.

 

[Rockomax]

Yes McCarron and KK had something in common that Dach doesn't .Dach can actually skate.

Dach is not a great skater

 

[Deebs]

Major overpayment giving up a top 4 D who has proved he is a legitimate NHL player.

I like Roma but he's a defensive minded 2nd pairing player. He'll have a good career but it's not like we gave up a future star. Just my opinion of course

 

[Bigtrout]

All this pain for Shane and we end up with a Suzuki-Dach 1-2 punch and the biggest project at 1OA in recent memory. Underwhelming to say the least.

 

[InglewoodJack]

I’ve had Dach in my keeper league for the last several seasons, and he hasn’t shown much, but he’s had flashes. I certainly think he’s got higher upside than Romanov at this point, and I think when you consider the trade is essentially Romanov + 2 thirds for him, that’s not the worst price in the world. I mean, we’ve wanted a giant centre for what, like 25 years now? He’s not a blue chip guy by any means, but he’s got higher upside than anything we’ve given up for him.

 

[River Meadow]

All this pain for Shane and we end up with a Suzuki-Dach 1-2 punch and the biggest project at 1OA in recent memory. Underwhelming to say the least.

Yeah

Slaf might play on our 4th line one day, if we're lucky and he pans out

He will look great in the AHL on 2nd line tho

smh

 

[Schooner Guy]

Dach is not a great skater

His skating certainly isn't a weakness.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

With Dach, how was he even drafted 3OV? I didn't follow the 2019 draft but his WHL numbers are very average.

Anybody care to enlighten me? Thanks.

He tall!

 

[Wats]

Habs fans PTSD is a real thing...we whined all year about losing 1st overall.

Then the moment we got 1st overall, we whined how it was a weak draft.

Y'all don't deserve shit! lol

Feel like whining about whining is worse. People react, don't really see the problem. It's not like this organization has a proven track record of success last 25+ years to put absolute faith in. No one deserves anything, like the saying goes, can't appreciate the sun without the rain. If it pans out, the people who will be most happy are those who are skeptical.

 

[Bigtrout]

Yeah

Slaf might play on our 4th line one day, if we're lucky and he pans out

He will look great in the AHL on 2nd line tho

smh

Oh yeah that's definetly what I said buddy.

Give your head a shake.

 

[River Meadow]

Oh yeah that's definetly what I said buddy.

Give your head a shake.

He's a project.

Like my 1980 Camaro Z28

 

[Schooner Guy]

All this pain for Shane and we end up with a Suzuki-Dach 1-2 punch and the biggest project at 1OA in recent memory. Underwhelming to say the least.

But let's just leave out that we also got Slafkovsky and "pain for Shane" was passed over by two other teams.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I'd try doing the Pacioretty route and have him start year in the AHL. Put him with Slafkovsky and have them both with a older AHLer.

Slafkovsky - Dach - Ylonen
Heineman - Mysak - Pinard
Martel - Simoneau - Schnarr?
Gignac - Condotta - AHLer

Guhle - Barron
Norlinder - AHLer
Xhekaj - AHLer

Primeau

Would be nice to have a bunch of the futures play together and have success. Call up Dach if he does really well in November/December.

I haven't checked, but with the number of pro games he's played, he has to go through waivers

 

[Montreal Impact FC]

People need to calm down.

He is a 3th overall pick from 2019

He got very little experience at the nhl ..

Aside of injuries.. its not new... players struggle a lot in the first 2-3 years.. would you take Laffy?

Let hope he can pull it together.. he got some raw tools.. is big.. he joins a good group of young players.

Its a risk but a high reward one.

 

[Bigtrout]

But let's just leave out that we also got Slafkovsky and "pain for Shane" was passed over by two other teams.

Soften the initial blow by quite a alot. I'm ok with Slaf in a vaccum but Dach much less so. I'd be a happy camper today had we drafted Nazar instead, we'll see.

 

[417]

Feel like whining about whining is worse. People react, don't really see the problem. It's not like this organization has a proven track record of success last 25+ years to put absolute faith in. No one deserves anything, like the saying goes, can't appreciate the sun without the rain. If it pans out, the people who will be most happy are those who are skeptical.

Where do you see me whining?

There's nothing wrong with reacting, it's just obvious Habs fans are jaded and can't enjoy anything.

As for this organization not having a proven track record of success the last 25+ years...what's that got to do with a new management core that's about 3-6 months old?

Would it not make sense to allow them the time to implement THEIR vision?

Or are we seriously going to measure every move they make against the predecessors?

 

[lamp9post]

Seems like lot of people see him as more of a RW than C.

I really hope they pick a lane and stick with it.

 

[Lshap]

That's not worth 20 minutes from a 4D like Romanov.

Romanov was solid, but if some of our D prospects work out, he's replaceable. Of course, you could also say Dach is replaceable if he becomes an unspectacular if solid 3C. Hopefully, the reason for the trade is that Montreal sees Dach becoming more at his position than Romanov already is at his.

What if they didn't vet that at all....?

If the staff didn't fully verify Dach's injury status they don't deserve a paycheque. Chances are nil they ignored it.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Major overpayment giving up a top 4 D who has proved he is a legitimate NHL player.

I don't see how Romanov is any more of a "legitimate NHL player" than Dach. They played him a ton last season and while he looked good at times, his results were pretty awful. Like a lot of Bergevin's acquisitions, I have questions about his toolbox. I'm not enamoured with Dach either, but I think there's more there than with Romanov and a lot more upside. Here's some player tracking from both: