Player Discussion Kirby Dach: Welcome to Montreal part 2

Miller Time

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Monahan is slower, more brittle, and less dynamic today than before his many injuries. This is why his team paid us to get rid of him.
Nope. They paid to get rid of him because they were under a cap crunch that made patience with his recovery difficult. Moving his cap hit was necessary to add Huberdeau, Kadri & Weegar.

Stating poorly grounded opinions as if they are facts makes for bad takes.

Fortunately for the Habs, they have the ability to be patient with Dach, even if some fans are too impatient and short sighted to accept that.
 

Justsayin

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Dach was never going to be what he was pre-injury until the end of this season. No one seriously suggested that it was reasonable to think otherwise. We are 25 games in. Dach is not back to his pre-injury performance yet. I am actually surprised he looks this good this early. His skating looks good. He doesn't seem afraid of contact (re-injury). He's showing flashes of great vsion. What expectations exactly is he not living up to?
 
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Colezuki

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Dach was never going to be what he was pre-injury until the end of this season. No one seriously suggested that it was reasonable to think otherwise. We are 25 games in. Dach is not back to his pre-injury performance yet. I am actually surprised he looks this good this early. His skating looks good. He doesn't seem afraid of contact (re-injury). He's showing flashes of great vsion. What expectations exactly is he not living up to?
Random posters and fans unrealistic expectations
 
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Andy

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Someone posted a highlights video from last season. It's clear he lost his first step when comparing his current play to last year.

And it makes sense. That slow first step causes him to lose his time and space very quickly.
 
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Andy

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Moving the goal posts much? You asked for examples of players who paced for 30pts after getting injured and then put up 60+ points afterwards. Monahan got injured, paced for 29 points in his final year in Calgary and has put up a 61 point pace since then.

Now you want to move the goal posts and have someone who got injured and had no history of producing before. Something tells me even if I give you a name who satisfies your brand new can't have broken out before the injury goal post shifting you'll try to find some other excuse of why they shouldn't count.
Sean Couturier.
Brayden Schenn.
 
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OneSharpMarble

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Dach was never going to be what he was pre-injury until the end of this season. No one seriously suggested that it was reasonable to think otherwise. We are 25 games in. Dach is not back to his pre-injury performance yet. I am actually surprised he looks this good this early. His skating looks good. He doesn't seem afraid of contact (re-injury). He's showing flashes of great vsion. What expectations exactly is he not living up to?
They're angry because they thought the Habs were going to be dominating right now and Dach is the whipping boy for all that is wrong in their world. Thank god that the management are giving him a chance to regain his form and aren't reactionary clowns that want to waive him 20 games in.
 

Don D

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Dach was never going to be what he was pre-injury until the end of this season. No one seriously suggested that it was reasonable to think otherwise. We are 25 games in. Dach is not back to his pre-injury performance yet. I am actually surprised he looks this good this early. His skating looks good. He doesn't seem afraid of contact (re-injury). He's showing flashes of great vsion. What expectations exactly is he not living up to?
Wish Dach all the best. Often, some posts on HF really vilify players while others support them. Do not mean to do either, just point out some observation.
Laine has had approximately 11 injuries, personal issues and just returned last night.
Dach's injuries were different, but point is, he has not played well so far. Not meant as a criticism.
 
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Lafleurs Guy

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Dach was never going to be what he was pre-injury until the end of this season. No one seriously suggested that it was reasonable to think otherwise. We are 25 games in. Dach is not back to his pre-injury performance yet. I am actually surprised he looks this good this early. His skating looks good. He doesn't seem afraid of contact (re-injury). He's showing flashes of great vsion. What expectations exactly is he not living up to?
I thought he’d be rusty.

I did not think he’d be terrible. A healthy Dach could be a 60+ point player. I had him at 50+.

Now it looks like he might not hit 30.
 
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Naslundforever

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Dach was never going to be what he was pre-injury until the end of this season. No one seriously suggested that it was reasonable to think otherwise. We are 25 games in. Dach is not back to his pre-injury performance yet. I am actually surprised he looks this good this early. His skating looks good. He doesn't seem afraid of contact (re-injury). He's showing flashes of great vsion. What expectations exactly is he not living up to?
I don’t have expectations for him because I am not attached to the idea of him as a top 6 or a center. He’s a bonus at this point if he ever works it out. Right now he is a detriment and there are many paths for him that don’t involve being 2c or on the pp or late game situations, it’s not a fail to play better players more and shop for a 2C and does not mean he’s out of a job. He can look to guys like Anderson and Gallagher for inspiration there.

btw you are the only person I’ve heard stating you are surprised how good he looks, so good for you for not being afraid to share your opinion.
 
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Habssince89

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By the end of the season, I want to see clear improvement in both his first step and his production. If there's some progress there, then you can see he's still trending forward, and a big summer (ie the first normal one for him in a while) is ahead and next season becomes the make or break for his general career trajectory. Will he be a 2C, 3C, or 2RW, 3RW? No Idea. But I don't think this year will show a conclusive answer on where Dach will end up as a player.
 

WeThreeKings

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It will but like Radulov. Get three good years out of Monahan. Free agents usually won't sign here. Caproom likely not a problem on back end of deal.

It will definitely be. Slaf extension kicks in next year. Hutson will need an extension after next season. Demidov will need an extension after his ELC.

Putting bad money on the books for a guy who is only going to be effective for what would likely be one year of actual playoff play, not a wise investment.
 

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