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Kingston Frontenacs 2024 25 Season Thread Part Iii

dirty12 said:
Brantford, Barrie, Sudbury, Niagara, and Kingston all own winning records currently vs Brampton, and Oshawa has split. I doubt any team wants to avoid Brampton. I think teams are more concerned about going into the playoffs playing well, and would prefer to face a team reeling a bit.
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they have goaltending, defence is pretty good now with the addition of Konnor Smith and they’ve always had scoring. Top that off with a great coach. Plus they’ve dealt with players being out consistently. They strike a lot more fear into the eyes of contenders than Sudbury/niagara I can absolutely guarantee that.

In the playoffs goaltending can win you a game or a round by itself. The fronts have ran into hot goalies like Alex Nedeljkovic and despite having the better team- goaltending was the big difference. Playoffs are a whole different breed from regular season.

If Flores isn’t playing Niagara is definitely the team everyone wants to play. Them or Sudbury with the inconstant tandem of Krawchuck and Marshall.

Fronts tandem is the worst of the big 4 in the east (Brantford, Barrie, Oshawa, Kingston) they likely have the best depth up front or tied with Barrie for that.

Barrie or Brantford with the best defence imo.

Regardless… 3 pretty good teams are going out round 1.
 
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frontsfan67 said:
they have goaltending, defence is pretty good now with the addition of Konnor Smith and they’ve always had scoring. Top that off with a great coach. Plus they’ve dealt with players being out consistently. They strike a lot more fear into the eyes of contenders than Sudbury/niagara I can absolutely guarantee that.

In the playoffs goaltending can win you a game or a round by itself. The fronts have ran into hot goalies like Alex Nedeljkovic and despite having the better team- goaltending was the big difference. Playoffs are a whole different breed from regular season.

If Flores isn’t playing Niagara is definitely the team everyone wants to play. Them or Sudbury with the inconstant tandem of Krawchuck and Marshall.

Fronts tandem is the worst of the big 4 in the east (Brantford, Barrie, Oshawa, Kingston) they likely have the best depth up front or tied with Barrie for that.

Barrie or Brantford with the best defence imo.

Regardless… 3 pretty good teams are going out round 1.
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Yeah, good teams will be going out in round one.
All teams have had to deal with missing players. The steelheads defence is still weak because they have the weakest centres of all the playoff teams in the conference, and because the wingers that play most do not make up the difference defensively.
 
Looking at the final games each team has and the fact that you are behind Branfrod by 3 points I get the feeling that the race in the standings is more about Osh and Kingston and who gets not to play Brampton in the first round
I think it comes down to possibly 4 games. Osh against Sud twice and Kingston against Brantford and Brampton.
 
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Looking at the schedules for the rest of the year, Kingston (@ PBO, vs BFD, @ BRAM) is 3 points back of Brantford (vs BRAM, @ KGN, vs OTT), 2 up on Oshawa (@ NB, @ SBY, vs PBO), and tied with Barrie (vs OS, vs NIA).

If Kingston wins 2 of 3 games in regulation or overtime that guarantees them 3rd because they'll have the ROW tiebreaker over them.

Oshawa should be able to coast to 2 wins, and maybe 3 if Sudbury gifts them another two points by sitting everyone important (I know Krawchuk kept the score close but it wasn't a close game).

It's unbelievably unlikely that Kingston catches up to the 1, but if they want any hope they'll have to win out with some Brampton help (I do wonder if Brampton rests since they're locked into #5).
 
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leafs4life94 said:
Looking at the schedules for the rest of the year, Kingston (@ PBO, vs BFD, @ BRAM) is 3 points back of Brantford (vs BRAM, @ KGN, vs OTT), 2 up on Oshawa (@ NB, @ SBY, vs PBO), and tied with Barrie (vs OS, vs NIA).

If Kingston wins 2 of 3 games in regulation or overtime that guarantees them 3rd because they'll have the ROW tiebreaker over them.

Oshawa should be able to coast to 2 wins, and maybe 3 if Sudbury gifts them another two points by sitting everyone important (I know Krawchuk kept the score close but it wasn't a close game).

It's unbelievably unlikely that Kingston catches up to the 1, but if they want any hope they'll have to win out with some Brampton help (I do wonder if Brampton rests since they're locked into #5).
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Hoping that Sunday is a nothing game for the Fronts.
 
leafs4life94 said:
Looking at the schedules for the rest of the year, Kingston (@ PBO, vs BFD, @ BRAM) is 3 points back of Brantford (vs BRAM, @ KGN, vs OTT), 2 up on Oshawa (@ NB, @ SBY, vs PBO), and tied with Barrie (vs OS, vs NIA).

If Kingston wins 2 of 3 games in regulation or overtime that guarantees them 3rd because they'll have the ROW tiebreaker over them.
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Think it’s unlikely kingston gets 1st however they have a couple things going for them. Peterborough obviously is the worse team in the league. Should be the easiest game for sure and kingston can’t coast because they have something to prove and need points if battling for first. Can’t take them lightly in their home barn. Especially in their final home game of the season which is completely sold out. I predict a fairly close game probably within 2 goals but a big kingston win.

Vs Brantford they’ll be on home ice where they have won I believe 16 in a row. Hopefully they can make it 17 and in regulation. Won against Brantford last time they played which was in Kingston and Lardis had 0 points.
I predict a 1 or 2 goal game and hopefully a Kingston win.

In Brampton their seeding probably is all done and they’ll rest their guys vs us in the last game of their regular season. Depends how Gillespie plays I 100% expect him in nets. He can be very very good or below average depending on the day but has played well for them lately. I predict a 2 goal game for kingston
 
frontsfan67 said:
Think it’s unlikely kingston gets 1st however they have a couple things going for them. Peterborough obviously is the worse team in the league. Should be the easiest game for sure and kingston can’t coast because they have something to prove and need points if battling for first. Can’t take them lightly in their home barn. Especially in their final home game of the season which is completely sold out. I predict a fairly close game probably within 2 goals but a big kingston win.

Vs Brantford they’ll be on home ice where they have won I believe 16 in a row. Hopefully they can make it 17 and in regulation. Won against Brantford last time they played which was in Kingston and Lardis had 0 points.
I predict a 1 or 2 goal game and hopefully a Kingston win.

In Brampton their seeding probably is all done and they’ll rest their guys vs us in the last game of their regular season. Depends how Gillespie plays I 100% expect him in nets. He can be very very good or below average depending on the day but has played well for them lately. I predict a 2 goal game for kingston
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The battle for Kingston is not Brantford I think that ship has sailed. However
Osh has NB Sud and Petes figure that the Gens get at least 4 points. Kingston needs to win 2 games to make it interesting. Osh has the tie break so it will be interesting
 
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beastintheeast said:
The battle for Kingston is not Brantford I think that ship has sailed. However
Osh has NB Sud and Petes figure that the Gens get at least 4 points. Kingston needs to win 2 games to make it interesting. Osh has the tie break so it will be interesting
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Kingston has the tiebreaker - first tiebreak is Regulation/Overtime wins (KGN 37, OSH 35), then it goes to head-to-head (we don't need to talk about H2H with Oshawa).

I'm not closing the door on anything yet - is it likely they get 1st? Definitely no. but if Brantford drops a game they shouldn't, and Kingston wins the head-to-head they're right there. Ottawa very well could be playing for something in that Brantford game so they'll come out full force.
 
leafs4life94 said:
Kingston has the tiebreaker - first tiebreak is Regulation/Overtime wins (KGN 37, OSH 35), then it goes to head-to-head (we don't need to talk about H2H with Oshawa).

I'm not closing the door on anything yet - is it likely they get 1st? Definitely no. but if Brantford drops a game they shouldn't, and Kingston wins the head-to-head they're right there. Ottawa very well could be playing for something in that Brantford game so they'll come out full force.
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If Ottawa is playing for the 8th place then DC and boyd should be shot and released. I think that Sunday if Brantord thinks it willplay Ottawa inthe first round they will come out to send a message. Niagara has Flores back and he will be looking for an easy game to the 67's will be in tough there.
 
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beastintheeast said:
If Ottawa is playing for the 8th place then DC and boyd should be shot and released. I think that Sunday if Brantord thinks it willplay Ottawa inthe first round they will come out to send a message. Niagara has Flores back and he will be looking for an easy game to the 67's will be in tough there.
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Then by the sounds of everything on the 67s board (around the WJC rehash) I think everyone would love Ottawa to give Brantford a run to get them out of there haha
 
Only 3 games left and 3 back! I still think the odds aren’t all that bad for the Fronts finishing 1st. I see Brantford beating Ottawa on Sunday for 2 points. I think if Brampton can pull off the upset tomorrow, the Fronts have a real shot! It puts their destiny in their own hands. I didn’t think the Fronts would be in it going into the last weekend. Maybe the Conference has disappointed a bit but kudo’s need to go out to the players for rising above. They had more in them than I thought. Have fun this weekend. It should be a wild ride!
 
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OMG67 said:
Only 3 games left and 3 back! I still think the odds aren’t all that bad for the Fronts finishing 1st. I see Brantford beating Ottawa on Sunday for 2 points. I think if Brampton can pull off the upset tomorrow, the Fronts have a real shot! It puts their destiny in their own hands. I didn’t think the Fronts would be in it going into the last weekend. Maybe the Conference has disappointed a bit but kudo’s need to go out to the players for rising above. They had more in them than I thought. Have fun this weekend. It should be a wild ride!
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Kingston needs to run the table and win all 3 games and hope that BFD loses 2 a BFD win tonight against Brampton almost seals it. Ottawa on Sunday should be a cake walk for BFD. I am more interested in OSH and Kingston. That is the battle
 
Don’t underestimate Sudbury in the playoffs. They might not have quite as much pure talent as Brampton, but they’ve got more experience. Take a look at how many 05’s are on that roster. If the series goes six games, you also have to factor in the impact of travelling up there twice. Musty seemed pretty certain that he’d be healthy in time for the playoffs.
 
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Donnie740 said:
Don’t underestimate Sudbury in the playoffs. They might not have quite as much pure talent as Brampton, but they’ve got more experience. Take a look at how many 05’s are on that roster. If the series goes six games, you also have to factor in the impact of travelling up there twice. Musty seemed pretty certain that he’d be healthy in time for the playoffs.
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I am not sure anyone I've spoken to feels like Sudbury is an easy path. I think there are 7 teams in the east that could beat each other in a series....hot goalie, cold special teams etc... Obviously there are favourites but nobody is finishing 68-0 this year. "impact of travelling up there twice" - They do have to travel down to Kingston too.
 
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I am not sure anyone I've spoken to feels like Sudbury is an easy path. I think there are 7 teams in the east that could beat each other in a series....hot goalie, cold special teams etc... Obviously there are favourites but nobody is finishing 68-0 this year. "impact of travelling up there twice" - They do have to travel down to Kingston too.
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Sure seems to be a lot of chatter about the need to finish third and “avoid Brampton”.
 
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Sure seems to be a lot of chatter about the need to finish third and “avoid Brampton”.
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Those things have absolutely nothing to do with each other. I would rather play Sudbury over Brampton - nothing about sentiment does it say that Sudbury is a cakewalk.

Only the 1-8 in the East is considered a cakewalk. It wouldn't surprise me to see the other 3 series all go 6+ games. Niagara will need Flores to steal 2+ games to make it there, but there's a chance.
 
Donnie740 said:
Sure seems to be a lot of chatter about the need to finish third and “avoid Brampton”.
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I think the focus needs to be on winning the division and getting one of North Bay/Ottawa or Niagara. Keep round one short. Conserve energy. Mitigate risk against an injury in a long series. That really needs to be the focus. Who a team plays outside of those two teams is sort of irrelevant. The #6 and #5 teams will provide a good amount of push back.

Since the calendar flipped to February for Brampton, they are 14-3-2. They’ve played better. They’ve been more healthy so that has helped. They jsut don’t have that prototypical playoff style team though. But, they can score and they have a good goalie that can make a difference if he goes on a heater.

Sudbury has not been able to string together any consistency. Although they are better on paper than their record, they haven’t shown it enough to belive at this point. I agree with you that they should/could sneak up on an unprepared team though. Not sure it will happen but stranger things have happened.
 
As mentioned in 67S thread. -Expect to hear about fines and possible suspensions to Dave Cameron and Troy Mann soon for what transpired after Sundays game in Ottawa.
 
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Donnie740 said:
Don’t underestimate Sudbury in the playoffs. They might not have quite as much pure talent as Brampton, but they’ve got more experience. Take a look at how many 05’s are on that roster. If the series goes six games, you also have to factor in the impact of travelling up there twice. Musty seemed pretty certain that he’d be healthy in time for the playoffs.
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Not necessarily that it would be an easy team. There’s no easy team between them and Brampton. But Brampton scares the hell out of me round 1. I would not want to face them round 1 if I was any team in the east including Brantford, Oshawa, Barrie.

I would not be overly surprised if they pulled off the upset vs you guys, us or whoever they face.

Sudbury wouldn’t be an easy one either. I do think all of the top 4 teams could and would beat them but it wouldn’t be a 4 or 5 gamer. Likely 6, MAYBE 7.
 
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