Kingston Frontenacs 2024-25 Season Thread, Part I

[leafs4life94]

Should be a competitive game even if the Fronts are down a few players - so will the Knights.

Cowan - Out with lingering Injury
Barkey - Most likely wont play (recovering from illness)
Halttunen - Suspension (checking from behind - 4 games)
Boulton - Suspension (Slashing - # of games still being reviewed)

Halttunen had 4pts in 6 games with San Jose Barracuda and is sent back to London
Ludwinski has 1 pt in 13 games with Rockford IceHogs and is still in AHL


What am I missing?

Haltunnen's contract slides so SJ is only paying him the signing bonus, but since Ludwinski is a year his contract can't slide so they'd be paying him the full AHL salary regardless of where he is (I believe), so Chicago likely thinks they're better off with with more hands-on development.

 

[PuckLucker]

Understood - thanks, I appreciate the insight.

 

[ScoutLife4]

Barkey is most definitely playing tomorrow night

 

[OMG67]

Should be a competitive game even if the Fronts are down a few players - so will the Knights.

Cowan - Out with lingering Injury
Barkey - Most likely wont play (recovering from illness)
Halttunen - Suspension (checking from behind - 4 games)
Boulton - Suspension (Slashing - # of games still being reviewed)

Halttunen had 4pts in 6 games with San Jose Barracuda and is sent back to London
Ludwinski has 1 pt in 13 games with Rockford IceHogs and is still in AHL


What am I missing?

I really don’t like that Bolton penalty. How that played out was a disgrace. I’d be in favour of a VERY lengthy suspension. “I’m embarrassed so I am going to hack your arm off.” I’m cool with aggressive penalties but that was uncalled for.

Haltunnen's contract slides so SJ is only paying him the signing bonus, but since Ludwinski is a year his contract can't slide so they'd be paying him the full AHL salary regardless of where he is (I believe), so Chicago likely thinks they're better off with with more hands-on development.

I don’t think they pay the AHL salary if they are in the OHL. They do get the bonus but I think the salary is just eliminated. I think they need to be playing Pro. The contract, as you said, does not slide so it does eat up a contract year.

I’m not 100% on that but that is my understanding.

 

[leafs4life94]

I really don’t like that Bolton penalty. How that played out was a disgrace. I’d be in favour of a VERY lengthy suspension. “I’m embarrassed so I am going to hack your arm off.” I’m cool with aggressive penalties but that was uncalled for.



I don’t think they pay the AHL salary if they are in the OHL. They do get the bonus but I think the salary is just eliminated. I think they need to be playing Pro. The contract, as you said, does not slide so it does eat up a contract year.

I’m not 100% on that but that is my understanding.

Agreed re: Boulton - there was nothing but intent to injure and although I can't stand Parekh at all, mostly because of the spitting incident that got brushed aside so he couldmplay in the top prospects game, he's incredibly lucky that the stick broke. If that stick stayed in one piece he's likely dealing with broken ribs.

I tried to look it up and I think you may be right (RIP CapFriendly), there was a 9 year old thread that mentioned there was some kind of amount they could be paid but it was capped around 10.5k.

I do however think they get any bonuses regardless since they're paid out on July 1. Then the salary gets pushed back until he's actually using up the contract years? But that opens up a whole other batch of questions because if say Philly kept Luchanko up for 11+ games to use a contract year, then send him down, where does that salary go? I can't imagine the PA would allow teams to get out of paying salary like that.

 

[Fischhaber]

I really don’t like that Bolton penalty. How that played out was a disgrace. I’d be in favour of a VERY lengthy suspension. “I’m embarrassed so I am going to hack your arm off.” I’m cool with aggressive penalties but that was uncalled for.



I don’t think they pay the AHL salary if they are in the OHL. They do get the bonus but I think the salary is just eliminated. I think they need to be playing Pro. The contract, as you said, does not slide so it does eat up a contract year.

I’m not 100% on that but that is my understanding.

James Guo overhand slashed a player in the head In the playoffs last year in one of the most vicious plays this league has ever seen and just received a slap on the wrist. If that's any indication, Boulton shouldn't be suspended at all.

 

[OMG67]

Agreed re: Boulton - there was nothing but intent to injure and although I can't stand Parekh at all, mostly because of the spitting incident that got brushed aside so he couldmplay in the top prospects game, he's incredibly lucky that the stick broke. If that stick stayed in one piece he's likely dealing with broken ribs.

I tried to look it up and I think you may be right (RIP CapFriendly), there was a 9 year old thread that mentioned there was some kind of amount they could be paid but it was capped around 10.5k.

I do however think they get any bonuses regardless since they're paid out on July 1. Then the salary gets pushed back until he's actually using up the contract years? But that opens up a whole other batch of questions because if say Philly kept Luchanko up for 11+ games to use a contract year, then send him down, where does that salary go? I can't imagine the PA would allow teams to get out of paying salary like that.

They 100% get their signing nonus. You could see that on capfriendly when it was operational. You see the year they signed getting their bonus with the slide years showing without the bonus.

 

[frontsfan67]

May not be pretty tomorrow night.
Sounds like the bug that had Lalonde out is going through the room this week.

I really hope Lalonde can play. If it’s vaccari we are toast London always has our number and I wouldn’t want to start Betts vs London in case we get lit up and it breaks his spirit.

 

[frontsfan67]

James Guo overhand slashed a player in the head In the playoffs last year in one of the most vicious plays this league has ever seen and just received a slap on the wrist. If that's any indication, Boulton shouldn't be suspended at all.

Boulton is a repeat offender and only in the league to be a tough guy and has hurt people before. Big brother was the same way. He absolutely should get a longer suspension.

That’s not to say James guo shouldn’t have had a bigger suspension but it’s pretty damn clear Boulton isn’t in there to score goals or even kill penalties. His role is an enforcer. He needs to do it clean and not take out players. I hate parekh about as much as the next fan but reality is just because I don’t like the kid doesn’t mean he should get slashed in the wrist like that.

 

[dirty12]

Just 8 games for that malicious slash is BS.
Cardwell pushed a SSM player behind the shoulder, player lost balance and fell in a collision with teammate before sliding ~10 feet to the boards resulting in a broken leg …14 game suspension.
A vicious action by a player unable to control his emotion vs a push from beside/behind that happens almost every game generally assessed a 2 min minor.

 

[LDN]

What should we expect from the Fronts against the Knights tonight?