Haltunnen's contract slides so SJ is only paying him the signing bonus, but since Ludwinski is a year his contract can't slide so they'd be paying him the full AHL salary regardless of where he is (I believe), so Chicago likely thinks they're better off with with more hands-on development.
Kingston Frontenacs 2024-25 Season Thread, Part I
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I really don’t like that Bolton penalty. How that played out was a disgrace. I’d be in favour of a VERY lengthy suspension. “I’m embarrassed so I am going to hack your arm off.” I’m cool with aggressive penalties but that was uncalled for.
I don’t think they pay the AHL salary if they are in the OHL. They do get the bonus but I think the salary is just eliminated. I think they need to be playing Pro. The contract, as you said, does not slide so it does eat up a contract year.
I’m not 100% on that but that is my understanding.
Agreed re: Boulton - there was nothing but intent to injure and although I can't stand Parekh at all, mostly because of the spitting incident that got brushed aside so he couldmplay in the top prospects game, he's incredibly lucky that the stick broke. If that stick stayed in one piece he's likely dealing with broken ribs.
I tried to look it up and I think you may be right (RIP CapFriendly), there was a 9 year old thread that mentioned there was some kind of amount they could be paid but it was capped around 10.5k.
I do however think they get any bonuses regardless since they're paid out on July 1. Then the salary gets pushed back until he's actually using up the contract years? But that opens up a whole other batch of questions because if say Philly kept Luchanko up for 11+ games to use a contract year, then send him down, where does that salary go? I can't imagine the PA would allow teams to get out of paying salary like that.
James Guo overhand slashed a player in the head In the playoffs last year in one of the most vicious plays this league has ever seen and just received a slap on the wrist. If that's any indication, Boulton shouldn't be suspended at all.
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They 100% get their signing nonus. You could see that on capfriendly when it was operational. You see the year they signed getting their bonus with the slide years showing without the bonus.
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I really hope Lalonde can play. If it’s vaccari we are toast London always has our number and I wouldn’t want to start Betts vs London in case we get lit up and it breaks his spirit.
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Boulton is a repeat offender and only in the league to be a tough guy and has hurt people before. Big brother was the same way. He absolutely should get a longer suspension.
That’s not to say James guo shouldn’t have had a bigger suspension but it’s pretty damn clear Boulton isn’t in there to score goals or even kill penalties. His role is an enforcer. He needs to do it clean and not take out players. I hate parekh about as much as the next fan but reality is just because I don’t like the kid doesn’t mean he should get slashed in the wrist like that.
Just 8 games for that malicious slash is BS.
Cardwell pushed a SSM player behind the shoulder, player lost balance and fell in a collision with teammate before sliding ~10 feet to the boards resulting in a broken leg …14 game suspension.
A vicious action by a player unable to control his emotion vs a push from beside/behind that happens almost every game generally assessed a 2 min minor.
Cardwell pushed a SSM player behind the shoulder, player lost balance and fell in a collision with teammate before sliding ~10 feet to the boards resulting in a broken leg …14 game suspension.
A vicious action by a player unable to control his emotion vs a push from beside/behind that happens almost every game generally assessed a 2 min minor.
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I’m not sure about the other play since I did not see it but the Boulton play was brutal. AND, it is not that the actual slash itself was worth more than the 8 games, it was the circumstance surrounding it and what led to it. To me, that was just petty. That suspension should be followed with, “If you do ANYTHING like that again, you are gone from the league.”
Imagine if Parekh saw him coming and started skating away? We’d likely have seen another Kugel chance down!
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Yeah he should take up ufc or boxing when he’s done with hockey.
Then of course there’s always fans trying to downplay what he did “oh it was bad but wasn’t as bad as player x and he only got….”
Not sure why the league doesn’t ever try and get rid of the Daniel walker, Ryder and sawyer Boulton types of guys they limit fighting and are all about protecting the players but then give miniscule suspensions for clear intent to injure. Would it not make sense to slap a 30 gamer on to a player doing that and then you won’t see it happen again? If all they have to miss is 4-8 games and they only play 3 minutes a game how much are they really missed?
That’s my issue, you see malicious intent in review; but the league only seems to care if there was an injury.
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Just wondering when we talk about OA we seem to have the feeling that Burns willnot be back.
So let me ask this
Is Burns showing enough skill that he is ready or close to ready for the AHL? Could he be back as an OA. Pienemi is gone you are not going to waste an OA Euro spot and I doubt if he does not make the AHL team that he will stay in N.A.
But a returning Burns makes things interesting. First it guarantees that Uen and McGowan are gone. It gives you the leadership you need at the back end.
Life in the offseason post deadline is goingto be interesting. You have 4 OA forwards that may be back
You lose both Euros.
I understand doing a soft trade to improve the team this year.
I have to wonder though if they look at some of the 05 and maybe look at the exit plan and bringing up some of the young talent early.
So let me ask this
Is Burns showing enough skill that he is ready or close to ready for the AHL? Could he be back as an OA. Pienemi is gone you are not going to waste an OA Euro spot and I doubt if he does not make the AHL team that he will stay in N.A.
But a returning Burns makes things interesting. First it guarantees that Uen and McGowan are gone. It gives you the leadership you need at the back end.
Life in the offseason post deadline is goingto be interesting. You have 4 OA forwards that may be back
You lose both Euros.
I understand doing a soft trade to improve the team this year.
I have to wonder though if they look at some of the 05 and maybe look at the exit plan and bringing up some of the young talent early.
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I sort of find this discussion interesting. While I donot condone goonism and such I find it interesting because a short while ago the question here was why does Kingston not have a cop.
The old adage he might be a goon but he is our goon rings in my ears. LOL
I can still remember how much flack Ottawa took about Lance and his style of play calling him a thug. But I know that there were many teams that would have enjoyed that thug on their team.
There is a reason that Boulton is playing in London Hunter just does not keep players because they are goons.
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Brutal that we lost but we usually play like crap against the knights.
Had almost double the shots. Wish we had Lalonde in net but they could argue that they wish they had Cowan and haltunnen.
Great game regardless glad they atleast got a point but they deserved the second.
Had almost double the shots. Wish we had Lalonde in net but they could argue that they wish they had Cowan and haltunnen.
Great game regardless glad they atleast got a point but they deserved the second.
Probably the most entertaining game of the season that I have seen.
Crowd was really into it.
Couple defensive laps cost Kingston combined and the better goalie won that game.
The shootout goal by Sim I think it was just was an unfortunate way to lose.
Barkey was super smart to snipe over Vaccaris shoulder. Mason leaves a lot of top corner wide open with his small stature.
I thought Kingston played one of the more disciplined games of the season and the refs also didn’t call every little infraction after the whistle on them like they usually do.
London definitely didn’t want no part of forechecking last night everytime they would lose the puck they would retreat back into a neutral zone trap and sit and wait for the rush.
Its hard to believe that London is that good without 2 of their best players stop but definitely a positive for Kingston moving forward and likely a good impression to Coop that a couple moves and this team can be a contender.
Crowd was really into it.
Couple defensive laps cost Kingston combined and the better goalie won that game.
The shootout goal by Sim I think it was just was an unfortunate way to lose.
Barkey was super smart to snipe over Vaccaris shoulder. Mason leaves a lot of top corner wide open with his small stature.
I thought Kingston played one of the more disciplined games of the season and the refs also didn’t call every little infraction after the whistle on them like they usually do.
London definitely didn’t want no part of forechecking last night everytime they would lose the puck they would retreat back into a neutral zone trap and sit and wait for the rush.
Its hard to believe that London is that good without 2 of their best players stop but definitely a positive for Kingston moving forward and likely a good impression to Coop that a couple moves and this team can be a contender.
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London did not play their freewheeling game last night in Kingston, we're used to seeing them over-powering their opponents, but not last night, the Frontenacs played London perfectly. This has not been an easy task to do by any other teams this season, no doubt gauging from last night game, Kingston is on the right track. They were all over London players, not allowing their space and time to set up, it almost paid off for the Frontenacs.
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Off topic sort of but noticed on Instagram the fronts posted a photo about our “fantastic Finn’s” and Eelis Uronen and Anttoni Uronen both commented on it and the whole Uronen family seems pretty engaged with the fronts posts.
I wonder if we get them both this coming import draft? Gotta think they both may be on the radar. I’d be open for that absolutely both young (08’s) and both good players in Finland. Tuomas is probably my favourite front so if we got those 2 for another 2 years I’d be pretty happy about that.
Anttoni is a forward, Eelis is a d and both played at the U17’s for Finland. Eelis actually has a photo with him and Betts as his profile picture
I wonder if we get them both this coming import draft? Gotta think they both may be on the radar. I’d be open for that absolutely both young (08’s) and both good players in Finland. Tuomas is probably my favourite front so if we got those 2 for another 2 years I’d be pretty happy about that.
Anttoni is a forward, Eelis is a d and both played at the U17’s for Finland. Eelis actually has a photo with him and Betts as his profile picture
