GDT: Kings Training Camp 2022/2023!

[King'sPawn]

Thought Parik was the future was there some kind of squabble

Hoven wrote an article about it earlier in the year. Nothing specific happened.

While we remain extremely high on his overall ceiling, there are diverging opinions within Kings leadership circles on if Parik will reach his full potential. “Parik’s tools are undeniable,” as one source mentioned. “He has high-end potential.”

So, what’s the concern then? From all indications, he doesn’t have an attitude problem; he can simply be a bit stubborn at times. “He’s strong in his beliefs because that’s worked well for him up to this point,” said a different source. “That confidence isn’t always a bad thing either.”

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Since then, he signed an AHL contract with the Colorado Eagles. It's very unusual for teams to let players play in another NHL team's system unless they are getting ready to move on, so that's why it's looking less likely they'll be keeping him.

 

[SaltyElkHunter]

Byfield might just end up in Ontario

He’s played like he should.

 

[AbsentMojo]

...to the 3rd line over who? Gabe is better and I doubt that move him back to center anytime soon (and risk screwing him up). I must be the only that thought Byfield looked strong out there and I will surprised if he doesn't stay up.

True they got him to commit to wing.. I was thinking if QB struggled you could. move GV to 3C.. but maybe that would just mess up his current comfort level on wing... but i dont want to see Kaliyev on the 4th line..

 

[Buddy The Elf]

Byfield might just end up in Ontario

That's where he belongs.

 

[HookKing]

True they got him to commit to wing.. I was thinking if QB struggled you could. move GV to 3C.. but maybe that would just mess up his current comfort level on wing... but i dont want to see Kaliyev on the 4th line..

Blake needs to make some trades but it will difficult without the ability to take on salary.

 

[Sol]

Blake needs to make some trades but it will difficult without the ability to take on salary.

I think the Kings can actually move arvidsson to clear some cap and it wouldn’t hurt bad at all

 

[kingsfan28]

Running out of d-men.

Quick going way out for Zegras.

Yeah, both went through all of them. Cool idea for both teams to do it.

Zegras gets stopped, VA for the win!

 

[Kurrilino]

I think the Kings can actually move arvidsson to clear some cap and it wouldn’t hurt bad at all

Absolutely.
Arvison and Iafallo have no place in the Kings future

 

[kingsfan28]

Absolutely.
Arvison and Iafallo have no place in the Kings future

Iafallo showed me nothing this preseason. He lost his job as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Herby]

I think the Kings can actually move arvidsson to clear some cap and it wouldn’t hurt bad at all

Teams that are trying to contend usually do not move their 2nd best rw and break up what was their most dominant line from the season before.

We break up that line based on a few pre-season games?

Does anything that happened over 89 games last season mean anything, or is it all pushed aside for 5 pre-season games?

 

[KingsFan7824]

If Blake had any interest in trading anyone away the deal would've already been done long before now.

 

[Herby]

If Blake had any interest in trading anyone away the deal would've already been done long before now.

Yup.

The Kings have one proven right shot forward on the entire NHL roster.

The Kings scored 239 goals last year and should be looking to break the 250 mark if they want to make the playoffs.

The solution is obvious, we should trade that only proven RH shot forward who has scored 30 goals three different NHL seasons and who scored at a 61 point pace last year. That will help us reach our goals.

 

[Fishhead]

If Blake had any interest in trading anyone away the deal would've already been done long before now.

It takes two to tango, but kind of surprised some players weren't moved after the final.

I think with so many teams having cap issues it really stifles trading after the bunch that usually happens at the draft. Action should pick up around week 3 or 4 of the season.

 

[Herby]

Vilardi will have plenty of opportunity (again) to show if this is a breakthrough year or just a pre-season flash.

He will get games no matter what in rotation on the lower line and will be first in if there is any injury to a wing and maybe even a center. But the Kings are not trading proven scorers or demoting Byfield back to the AHL based on some pre-season games.

I think the most likely potential to find a role on a scoring line is if Iafallo looks terrible again, the question is could either AK or Vilardi effectively play the left wing.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Vilardi will have plenty of opportunity (again) to show if this is a breakthrough year or just a pre-season flash.

He will get games no matter what in rotation on the lower line and will be first in if there is any injury to a wing and maybe even a center. But the Kings are not trading proven scorers or demoting Byfield back to the AHL based on some pre-season games.

I think the most likely potential to find a role on a scoring line is if Iafallo looks terrible again, the question is could either AK or Vilardi effectively play the left wing.

I got a feeling Vilardi is going to be this year's Kaliyev......3rd line/4th line.....play his ass off, do the right things, and get your chance....IF he succeeds, I don't see Arviddson AND Moore coming back next year (its one or the other) ......it's too soon to move anyone proven right now....

 

[Fishhead]

Iafallo hasn't looked good at all, and Moore really hasn't either. I should say Iafallo looks rather lazy, so maybe he'll turn it on. Those two can easily play energy/checking roles to open scoring spots.

I'm fine with Vilardi on the 3rd as long as he keeps getting PP time. He's been money in front of the net.

 

[lumbergh]

Yet everyone was on pins and needles to get him signed for this year....interesting.

Just for the record, I was not. I repeated posted that Durzi had no real leverage. The thought that he could get $4M was never remotely realistic.

 

[johnjm22]

There's absolutely no reason to evaluate Iafallo or Moore based on pre season play.

They're not trying, nor should they.

 

[crassbonanza]

But the Kings are not trading proven scorers or demoting Byfield back to the AHL based on some pre-season games.

Honest question, but what has Byfield done to get guaranteed playing time over Vilardi? Is it just him being 3 years younger?

 

[Herby]

Honest question, but what has Byfield done to get guaranteed playing time over Vilardi? Is it just him being 3 years younger?

Draft capital and age are two big things.

Byfield has to be given the chance. If we are at 20 games and he looks like he did last season (and Vilardi doesn’t) well maybe you consider seeing if Vilardi can play center in the NHL.

People can say draft capital and stuff like that doesn’t matter, but it does. The Kings already had QB in the AHL for an entire (shortened) season when he was 18 and he looked completely lost in the NHL at 19. He is a 20 year old former #2 OA pick in his third year in the organization, if he can’t crack the NHL team it’s a massive issue for the long-term prospects of the team because it likely means he just isn’t nearly as good as all of us thought.

People can talk about long-term projects and what-not (although I still think that meant don’t expect a plug and play star). But if you aren’t there as even an NHL caliber player in D+3 from that spot in the draft, well history ain’t on QB’s side.

I think the Kings know this and will give him every opportunity this season until he shows he just isn’t there (which I don’t think will happen). I doubt he ends up being demoted to the minors before the 20-25 game mark.

There are some steps in development for a player like QB that need to be taken at the NHL level.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Arvidsson ready to go. Gabe ****** in the @$$ again.

How'd that ass f***ing go?

 

[kilowatt]

We absolutely should not trade Arvidsson. Iafallo maybe, he's arguably the most expendable player on the team (with Walker right there with him). But Iafallo's a very different player than Arvidsson and in a different situation. In a world where we trade Iafallo, we could move Kempe back to left wing and bump Vilardi and Kaliyev up a slot.

Fiala - Kopitar - Kaliyev
Kempe - Byfield - Vilardi
Moore - Danault - Arvidsson
Lemieux - Lizotte - Grundstrom

 

[Fishhead]

Draft capital and age are two big things.

Byfield has to be given the chance. If we are at 20 games and he looks like he did last season (and Vilardi doesn’t) well maybe you consider seeing if Vilardi can play center in the NHL.

People can say draft capital and stuff like that doesn’t matter, but it does. The Kings already had QB in the AHL for an entire (shortened) season when he was 18 and he looked completely lost in the NHL at 19. He is a 20 year old former #2 OA pick in his third year in the organization, if he can’t crack the NHL team it’s a massive issue for the long-term prospects of the team because it likely means he just isn’t nearly as good as all of us thought.

People can talk about long-term projects and what-not (although I still think that meant don’t expect a plug and play star). But if you aren’t there as even an NHL caliber player in D+3 from that spot in the draft, well history ain’t on QB’s side.

I think the Kings know this and will give him every opportunity this season until he shows he just isn’t there (which I don’t think will happen). I doubt he ends up being demoted to the minors before the 20-25 game mark.

There are some steps in development for a player like QB that need to be taken at the NHL level.

Big guys take longer, we all know that from the past. Wheeler especially took forever. Some of that is growing into your body, but he was dicked around by Arizona for a bit and never signed that ELC. Would he have developed quicker if he was drafted by a different team and brought right in? Maybe, but it's a good indication that Byfield will take a bit longer than a typical prospect and he needs to do it at the NHL level.

What I see from him right now is he isn't a bad player. He's got NHL skills, well above average, actually. The strange thing I see when he is on the ice is he doesn't seem to have much chemistry with anyone. He'll make a great play to make some space and put a perfect pass into a scoring position, but his linemate will be somewhere else or will have peeled off. It looks like he grasps where to go in the system and what his job is, but he doesn't seem to have a handle on where everyone else is. Could be he's overthinking and focusing on not making mistakes with his own play too much, or maybe his vision isn't where it needs to be, or maybe it was just too damn easy for him and now he's a bit mentally overloaded. Could also be that he skates with his head down too much, which I've noticed with him.

All the reports on him were high IQ, adapts quickly, and so on. I'm just not seeing that right now, and that's not just something one forgets. If he figures that part out the sky is the limit for him.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Big guys take longer, we all know that from the past. Wheeler especially took forever. Some of that is growing into your body, but he was dicked around by Arizona for a bit and never signed that ELC. Would he have developed quicker if he was drafted by a different team and brought right in? Maybe, but it's a good indication that Byfield will take a bit longer than a typical prospect and he needs to do it at the NHL level.

What I see from him right now is he isn't a bad player. He's got NHL skills, well above average, actually. The strange thing I see when he is on the ice is he doesn't seem to have much chemistry with anyone. He'll make a great play to make some space and put a perfect pass into a scoring position, but his linemate will be somewhere else or will have peeled off. It looks like he grasps where to go in the system and what his job is, but he doesn't seem to have a handle on where everyone else is. Could be he's overthinking and focusing on not making mistakes with his own play too much, or maybe his vision isn't where it needs to be, or maybe it was just too damn easy for him and now he's a bit mentally overloaded. Could also be that he skates with his head down too much, which I've noticed with him.

All the reports on him were high IQ, adapts quickly, and so on. I'm just not seeing that right now, and that's not just something one forgets. If he figures that part out the sky is the limit for him.

Played with Brown about to retire & AA & we have questions about why he struggles to use linemates? If he is still struggling 20-30 games in I'll be more concerned.

Keep depth, F&D, until salary cap forces trade. Reassess at deadline. Hope King's don't have to make an emergency goalie trade.

 

[Fishhead]

Played with Brown about to retire & AA & we have questions about why he struggles to use linemates? If he is still struggling 20-30 games in I'll be more concerned.

Keep depth, F&D, until salary cap forces trade. Reassess at deadline. Hope King's don't have to make an emergency goalie trade.

Yeah that was tough, but it's not just those two, it's everyone he's played with. He just hasn't clicked with anyone yet, He's the type of player that should be driving play and who others should be adjusting to, and that hasn't happened either. As soon as that happens, he'll take off. That's not all on Byfield either, some of that is coaching.