Confirmed with Link: Kings signing Cammalleri to 1/yr deal, 1m + bonuses

[damacles1156]

Regardless,

Cammy is a low risk move that might help the PP if anything.

The Kings need BIG years out of Toffoli/Pearson/Quick/Carter/Kopitar/Doughty to go anywhere.

 

[KINGS17]

Cammalleri left because of a big difference in money between him and Dean, that's fine it happens all the time. But let's end the ridiculous statements there, Dean only wanted winners and people who wanted to win in LA and weren't about money, really? A year after trading Cammalleri he brought in Ryan $myth, kind of blows that idea out of the water.

...and this was the problem. Cammalleri was a paycheck player.

I think you have to admit Dean correctly assessed the situation with Cammalleri.

I think you are right about Smyth. The way he left proves you right to some extent, but Dean was looking for winners. I don't think it was an accident Smyth was gone by the time the Kings won the cup.

It wasn't an accident Dean brought in guys like Stoll, Greene, Williams, Mitchell, and Scuderi.

 

[xavi4life]

Regardless,

Cammy is a low risk move that might help the PP if anything.

The Kings need BIG years out of Toffoli/Pearson/Quick/Carter/Kopitar/Doughty to go anywhere.

Not Brown or Gaborik?

 

[Keith Sweaty]

Does Cammy still have his house out here that was on MTV cribs?

 

[Bandit]

...and this was the problem. Cammalleri was a paycheck player.

I think you have to admit Dean correctly assessed the situation with Cammalleri.

I think you are right about Smyth. The way he left proves you right to some extent, but Dean was looking for winners. I don't think it was an accident Smyth was gone by the time the Kings won the cup.

It wasn't an accident Dean brought in guys like Stoll, Greene, Williams, Mitchell, and Scuderi.

Also, agree or not, Smythe was considered "Captain Canada" despite never having actually won dick. Right or wrong, he was thought of as a winner.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

?

Seems like some of you are suffering from post-Lombardi amnesia. Dean absolutely said that and was referring specifically to guys like Cammalleri and Demitra. He also said something along the lines of "it's easy to be a "top" player on a bad team", again referring to the guys that had been here. Are we on our way back to the bad old days of collect a paycheck and play some beach volleyball? Who knows, but that was stated almost verbatim by Lombardi, and what he wanted to change when he got here (and succeeded, for a while anyway).

I am okay with signing low risk guys, even if they signed for the wrong reason.

But yes, you're right. Lombardi has said multiple times (plus to me many years ago) that there were players who wanted to sign for the weather instead of wanting to make a difference or having a buy in to the culture.

I very much remember that.

I'm just saying that using today's moves (actually, the original argument was "DL is a hardball negotiator, Blake is not, therefore") as a sure sign that we're re-entering the 'beach party' era is a fallacy. Edit: Especially given that literally every other move Blake has made has been a youngster/prospect.

I don't see at all why that's such a controversial statement.

 

[Reclamation Project]

I can think of a few tough decisions Dean should have made.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Yeah, we really miss the days of acquiring the likes of Dan Cloutier and giving him an extension, or bringing Sean Avery back despite the coaches and players kicking him out of the locker, or those great Ethan Moreau and Trent Hunter signings. Because they were all culture changers and wanted to be here.

 

[damacles1156]

Not Brown or Gaborik?

If we are counting on Brown/Gabo to make a difference, the season is already lost.

 

[no name]

I very much remember that.

I'm just saying that using today's moves (actually, the original argument was "DL is a hardball negotiator, Blake is not, therefore") as a sure sign that we're re-entering the 'beach party' era is a fallacy. Edit: Especially given that literally every other move Blake has made has been a youngster/prospect.

I don't see at all why that's such a controversial statement.

Cammy in his mid 30's is not the same as Cammy in mid 20's. Paying a mercenary like they are cornerstones isn't a smart way to build a team. Paying a role player in his mid 30's one million is just fine. Cammy still has a great shot. Zero downside

 

[kingsfan28]

Lombardi would be crucified if this was his July 1st. He was last year and it's the same situation, although Blake has more cap to play with.

Is what it is, but DL would be raked over the coals if he entered this season with the current roster.

He'd have paid more for Bonino and given him an extra year.

 

[KINGS17]

Also, agree or not, Smythe was considered "Captain Canada" despite never having actually won dick. Right or wrong, he was thought of as a winner.

Smyth was definitely considered to be a leader at the time of the trade, and I think he demonstrated some leadership in his first season with the Kings.

Once it became obvious to Smyth he wasn't going to get the kind of contract he was looking for, or be made a part of the long term leadership group, things changed.

It definitely was a sign things were starting to look up for the Kings when he waived his NTC to join the Kings.

 

[kingsfan28]

Regardless,

Cammy is a low risk move that might help the PP if anything.

The Kings need BIG years out of Toffoli/Pearson/Quick/Carter/Kopitar/Doughty to go anywhere.

Exactly! Plus he knows how to hit the net with his shot and isn't afraid to shoot either. Maybe Kopitar will remember too after watching him for a few games.

 

[Basilisk]

I'm no expert on things, but wouldn't Iginla be a better "aging asset" risk than Cammy? All things being equal, Iggy will always edge out Cammy on the leadership side of things, and leadership is where we're lacking.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Kings need people to ****ing score. Enough of all this extra nonsense like intangibles, leadership, and grit. Put the puck in the net.

 

[kingsfan28]

Kings need people to ****ing score. Enough of all this extra nonsense like intangibles, leadership, and grit. Put the puck in the net.

I wish we had an owner who would've told Lombardi this.

 

[The Tikkanen]

The 7% shooting percentage and 1 goal on the PP last season are deeply concerning. Then add on the 35 years of age and hasn't played 70 games since 08-09. Hopefully another top line winger is brought in and Cammy can play on the 3rd line with a young center and Gaborik or Brown on the right with the ability to jump into the top 6 in case of injury. If he's relied on as a top 6 winger this Kings team is in DEEP trouble. The ability to score more goals, play a more exciting brand of hockey and the ability to attack the center of the ice have not been addressed-yet. I think I'm supposed to say "stay tuned"here or "more to come".

 

[KINGS17]

Someone in my family had the nerve to wonder if Clifford would give up his #13 for Squid.

 

[Telos]

I'm no expert on things, but wouldn't Iginla be a better "aging asset" risk than Cammy? All things being equal, Iggy will always edge out Cammy on the leadership side of things, and leadership is where we're lacking.

If we can sign him to the same $1million then sure, but Iginla's roots now are in Canada and on the east coast. It will likely take more than that to keep him in pricey LA of all places. Cammy still probably has connections and things in LA that soften the steep decline in pay.

 

[johnjm22]

Cammy is about the money.

He needs to produce to hit his performances bonuses and in order to get another contract.

I think he'll be alright.

 

[johnjm22]

Blake told Iginla after the season ended that the Kings would not be resigning him.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

If we can sign him to the same $1million then sure, but Iginla's roots now are in Canada and on the east coast. It will likely take more than that to keep him in pricey LA of all places. Cammy still probably has connections and things in LA that soften the steep decline in pay.

Wait what? Iginla is from Edmonton, played his whole career in Calgary, Colorado, and Los Angeles. What roots on the east coast?

 

[DryIslandBartender]

Yeah, we really miss the days of acquiring the likes of Dan Cloutier and giving him an extension, or bringing Sean Avery back despite the coaches and players kicking him out of the locker, or those great Ethan Moreau and Trent Hunter signings. Because they were all culture changers and wanted to be here.

Nobody said DL was perfect and do we really want to rehash the organizational mess that DL had on his hands when he took over? He made it clear those guys were bridge players while he went to work on his long term plans. The kings were one of the worst franchise's in the NHL in terms of winning because the culture was a disaster. The worst in development, the worst in drafting. Terrible training facility, zero emphasis on nutrition, zero off season workout programs for players, scouting staff wasn't up to par, kings alumni not cared for and so on. But hey nobody cared then because Dave Tayler/AEG signed a name like Roenick!

All of those things are why the kings fell off a cliff the season before the DL era and were a league wide joke. Things were much worse then than now. The franchise has two cup banners in the rafters because of that guy and the way he constructed the organization from scratch.

But the Cammy signing has Luc's fingerprints all over it and it's just the kind of signing that AEG loves to promote and ignore the real issues on the team.

 

[Telos]

Wait what? Iginla is from Edmonton, played his whole career in Calgary, Colorado, and Los Angeles. What roots on the east coast?

http://www.csnne.com/boston-bruins/...ng-retirement-reportedly-buys-house-in-boston

He purchased a $4.5 million home in Boston just this April and enjoyed his time with the Bruins and playing in the city. It's just speculation, but given that he bought the house while playing for the Kings leads me to believe that he at least has some interest in the area either in his finals days in the NHL or retirement.

Williams made a move for family reasons, I can see Igilna following suit.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

http://www.csnne.com/boston-bruins/...ng-retirement-reportedly-buys-house-in-boston

He purchased a $4.5 million home in Boston just this April and enjoyed his time with the Bruins and playing in the city. It's just speculation, but given that he bought the house while playing for the Kings leads me to believe that he at least has some interest in the area either in his finals days in the NHL or retirement.

Williams made a move for family reasons, I can see Igilna following suit.

Totally forgot that he played for Boston