Confirmed with Link: Kings signing Cammalleri to 1/yr deal, 1m + bonuses

[Sleeping Dog]

Blake told Iginla after the season ended that the Kings would not be resigning him.

I think we'd owe CO a 4th if we signed Iggy. Not worth that.

 

[mamfredo8]

The 7% shooting percentage and 1 goal on the PP last season are deeply concerning. Then add on the 35 years of age and hasn't played 70 games since 08-09. Hopefully another top line winger is brought in and Cammy can play on the 3rd line with a young center and Gaborik or Brown on the right with the ability to jump into the top 6 in case of injury. If he's relied on as a top 6 winger this Kings team is in DEEP trouble. The ability to score more goals, play a more exciting brand of hockey and the ability to attack the center of the ice have not been addressed-yet. I think I'm supposed to say "stay tuned"here or "more to come".

It is part of him and part of the worse use through the coaching staff. I followed him closely in the last years and - with the Hall/Larsson-Trade - it was clear that his ice time would go down. Some wrote that NJD tried to trade him since the beginning of last season which could have effected him. He started slow (his daughter was ill and it got worse), got really hot after she was getting healthier. By the time he got red hot, Hall was injured. After Hall came back the played him on the point in the PP (where he has never been really good and which leads to the smaller shooting percentage) used him on the second PP unit with small minutes (they tried everything to get Hall going) and threw him on a line with Henrique (who is a real floater and no one, who will make other players around him better) on RW, which is clearly not his natural position. After he was scratch for 2 games, he said something like "I did everthing the ask me for and don't understand it".

I'm pretty sure, he'll rebound if used properly and help out with 15-20 goals and 40-45 points overall.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Who should Blake have brought in? Thornton got $8m for 1 year. Marleau got a truckload. Bonino got a bunch. Williams got a bigger cap hit than either here or Washington. Who was the guy they should've gotten working with the numbers that are out there?

 

[Sleeping Dog]

Who should Blake have brought in? Thornton got $8m for 1 year. Marleau got a truckload. Bonino got a bunch. Williams got a bigger cap hit than either here or Washington. Who was the guy they should've gotten working with the numbers that are out there?

And the correct answer is: "None. Look for an opportunity through a trade, but don't blow your cap space on extremely overpriced veterans who aren't worth it."

 

[KINGS17]

Who should Blake have brought in? Thornton got $8m for 1 year. Marleau got a truckload. Bonino got a bunch. Williams got a bigger cap hit than either here or Washington. Who was the guy they should've gotten working with the numbers that are out there?

No of course he shouldn't have brought in any of those players. Just stop the sales campaign regarding the Kings being contenders and then sign Cammalleri.

Do any of us really believe we are going to see Anze Kopitar hand the cup to Mike Cammalleri come June 2018? Is this even in the realm of the possible?

It is what it is, get on with the rebuild and stop the pretentious BS. This team and roster are no longer contenders, and they won't be with the millstone Kopitar, Brown, and Gaborik contracts hanging around their neck.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Someone in my family had the nerve to wonder if Clifford would give up his #13 for Squid.

"Come and get it"

No of course he shouldn't have brought in any of those players. Just stop the sales campaign regarding the Kings being contenders and then sign Cammalleri.

Do any of us really believe we are going to see Anze Kopitar hand the cup to Mike Cammalleri come June 2018? Is this even in the realm of the possible?

It is what it is, get on with the rebuild and stop the pretentious BS. This team and roster are no longer contenders, and they won't be with the millstone Kopitar, Brown, and Gaborik contracts hanging around their neck.

I just want to see this for the visual of the Cup being taller than its holder.

 

[Herby]

This has to be one of the weirdest threads ever on this board. I could get it if this were a longer term deal or for more $$$, but this is a zero risk deal, if he flops he can be buried for no cap hit.

And this narrative that he is some disruptive lockerroom presence is hilarious, if that were the case Luc and Blake wouldn't have brought him back, Calgary brought him back for a second run there and hell Dean Lombardi himself kicked the tires on acquiring him at the 2014 deadline.

This team has survived multiple players being busted for drugs and domestic violence, but ya MC is going to ruin the culture.

 

[The Tikkanen]

This has to be one of the weirdest threads ever on this board. I could get it if this were a longer term deal or for more $$$, but this is a zero risk deal, if he flops he can be buried for no cap hit.

And this narrative that he is some disruptive lockerroom presence is hilarious, if that were the case Luc and Blake wouldn't have brought him back, Calgary brought him back for a second run there and hell Dean Lombardi himself kicked the tires on acquiring him at the 2014 deadline.

This team has survived multiple players being busted for drugs and domestic violence, but ya MC is going to ruin the culture.

What is the culture?

 

[funky]

This has to be one of the weirdest threads ever on this board. I could get it if this were a longer term deal or for more $$$, but this is a zero risk deal, if he flops he can be buried for no cap hit.

And this narrative that he is some disruptive lockerroom presence is hilarious, if that were the case Luc and Blake wouldn't have brought him back, Calgary brought him back for a second run there and hell Dean Lombardi himself kicked the tires on acquiring him at the 2014 deadline.

This team has survived multiple players being busted for drugs and domestic violence, but ya MC is going to ruin the culture.

Exactly my thoughts. I liked what Blake and Co has done since taking over including this signing. Cammy seems like a guy that will come in with a chip on his shoulder and try and prove skeptics wrong. Can he be any worse than Gabby? If this the worst signing all off-season it is 10 times better than the scabs that were picked up last year

 

[Rorschach]

Can't complain because there's nothing to complain about. Hopefully things turn out better than we expect. If Cammy scores 25 goals, I bet at least 5 wind up being game winners. I add 5 wins to any of the last three seasons and we're a playoff team. We could have challenged Pittsburgh either of the last two years.

 

[KINGS17]

This has to be one of the weirdest threads ever on this board. I could get it if this were a longer term deal or for more $$$, but this is a zero risk deal, if he flops he can be buried for no cap hit.

And this narrative that he is some disruptive lockerroom presence is hilarious, if that were the case Luc and Blake wouldn't have brought him back, Calgary brought him back for a second run there and hell Dean Lombardi himself kicked the tires on acquiring him at the 2014 deadline.

This team has survived multiple players being busted for drugs and domestic violence, but ya MC is going to ruin the culture.

Culture?

Surely you can see the difference between players who may not be the best of citizens off the ice, but lay it all on the line on the ice.

Richards and Stoll are perfect examples. When it comes to leadership Cammalleri can't carry their jocks.

 

[Ollie Weeks]

The main difference was that last time, a culture was in its infancy. I think the thought process back then was "do we want Cammalleri influencing it moving forward?" This was in addition to questioning his intensity and what have you.

Jump to today. His salary and demeanour (perceived, I don't care either way) will have a small impact on the overall team dynamic. But his possible production has potential to make him a bargain.

You could also argue Lombardi's culture is fraying at the edges after the lasts few seasons, so it matters less, but I don't hold to that one way or the other.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Lombardi sure knew how to pick his leaders when he had free reign from the Kings and hand picked that embarrassing US team at the World Cup. They were just oozing with character, leadership and culture changers. Come on guys, are you really buying in with these silly labels Lombardi created?

Either you can play the game or you can't. None of you have any ****ing evidence of Cammalleri being disruptive. There's stories about Avery out there, Roenick as well (hell he admits it himself). Dean Lombardi also brought in the likes of Marc Crawford and Dan Cloutier. They sure were characters.

Cammalleri was dealt because he wanted more money. He was dealt because he didn't fit with their "size matters" mantra. I guess some of you may prefer seeing Dwight King in a top six role?

 

[Kingspiracy]

Lombardi sure knew how to pick his leaders when he had free reign from the Kings and hand picked that embarrassing US team at the World Cup. They were just oozing with character, leadership and culture changers. Come on guys, are you really buying in with these silly labels Lombardi created?

Either you can play the game or you can't. None of you have any ****ing evidence of Cammalleri being disruptive. There's stories about Avery out there, Roenick as well (hell he admits it himself). Dean Lombardi also brought in the likes of Marc Crawford and Dan Cloutier. They sure were characters.

Cammalleri was dealt because he wanted more money. He was dealt because he didn't fit with their "size matters" mantra. I guess some of you may prefer seeing Dwight King in a top six role?

Hey, that can still happen again

 

[johnjm22]

Cammalleri has also been fantastic in the playoffs in his NHL career. 32 points in 32 games. 17 goals. Shouldn't he get some some "character" credit for that? Showing up when the stage is the biggest?

It's not like he hasn't worn a letter on his jersey before.

 

[KINGS17]

Lombardi sure knew how to pick his leaders when he had free reign from the Kings and hand picked that embarrassing US team at the World Cup. They were just oozing with character, leadership and culture changers. Come on guys, are you really buying in with these silly labels Lombardi created?

Either you can play the game or you can't. None of you have any ****ing evidence of Cammalleri being disruptive. There's stories about Avery out there, Roenick as well (hell he admits it himself). Dean Lombardi also brought in the likes of Marc Crawford and Dan Cloutier. They sure were characters.

Cammalleri was dealt because he wanted more money. He was dealt because he didn't fit with their "size matters" mantra. I guess some of you may prefer seeing Dwight King in a top six role?

He did a lousy job assembling a team for a tournament. Assembly a team for a tournament involving highly skilled players, and assembling one to be the first to win 16 games in the NHL playoffs are two different things.

I absolutely buy into the idea guys like Richards, Stoll, Greene, and Williams were one of the keys to the Kings being able to accomplish it twice. When Cammalleri left, he wasn't the right guy at the time. I still think of him as a paycheck player.

Every GM swings at some pitches in the dirt.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

The Habs and Flames actually improved when they added Cammalleri, he filled a need and played that role of a top six forward as expected. His problem has been staying healthy. I don't know whether he can do that at this stage in his career, but he is not a disruptive player. Far from it. And he does something most Kings forwards refuse to do, which is shoot the puck from high danger areas. Watching his highlight reel over the years, he tends to score often from below the offensive zone faceoff dot.

If he remains healthy, the Kings can greatly benefit from his addition. And these supposed leaders on the team shouldn't be "disturbed" by his presence.

Given how often former teams of his go back to him, I tend to think there's something likeable about him.

Guys like Donald Audette, hell even a turd like Len Barrie, they were vocal about their usage and disagreement with the coaches. I've never seen from Cammalleri. I'm also pretty sure Darryl Sutter traded for him when the Kings dealt Cammalleri to Calgary. And we know what he thinks of one dimensional and diminutive players.

 

[Ollie Weeks]

Lombardi sure knew how to pick his leaders when he had free reign from the Kings and hand picked that embarrassing US team at the World Cup. They were just oozing with character, leadership and culture changers. Come on guys, are you really buying in with these silly labels Lombardi created?

Either you can play the game or you can't. None of you have any ****ing evidence of Cammalleri being disruptive. There's stories about Avery out there, Roenick as well (hell he admits it himself). Dean Lombardi also brought in the likes of Marc Crawford and Dan Cloutier. They sure were characters.

Cammalleri was dealt because he wanted more money. He was dealt because he didn't fit with their "size matters" mantra. I guess some of you may prefer seeing Dwight King in a top six role?

An understanding of the thought process doesn't mean one buys into it.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

I think we'd owe CO a 4th if we signed Iggy. Not worth that.

no we would not We needed to win cup and resign him to give up a pick No cup no pick

 

[DryIslandBartender]

Lombardi sure knew how to pick his leaders when he had free reign from the Kings and hand picked that embarrassing US team at the World Cup. They were just oozing with character, leadership and culture changers. Come on guys, are you really buying in with these silly labels Lombardi created?

Either you can play the game or you can't. None of you have any ****ing evidence of Cammalleri being disruptive. There's stories about Avery out there, Roenick as well (hell he admits it himself). Dean Lombardi also brought in the likes of Marc Crawford and Dan Cloutier. They sure were characters.

Cammalleri was dealt because he wanted more money. He was dealt because he didn't fit with their "size matters" mantra. I guess some of you may prefer seeing Dwight King in a top six role?

Lombardi did know how to pick leaders, he won 2 cups with them. Second, how many has Cammy won with the 12 teams he's been on?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I just think it's tough to assume Cammy is a turd when he's been an alternate captain multiple times and even had two tours on several teams. If he was such a habitual bridge burner...

 

[SettlementRichie10]

This is like arguing over seats on the Titanic.

Cammy is what he is. He won't make the team a contender. He won't make the team worse.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Lombardi did know how to pick leaders, he won 2 cups with them. Second, how many has Cammy won with the 12 teams he's been on?

Lombardi didn't pick up Kopitar, Brown or Quick. Knowing his overthinking style, he would've passes on Kopitar had he been GM in 2005 and gone with Marc Staal over Kopitar. Just like he did in 2007 with Hickey over Voracek.

 

[Herby]

Lombardi didn't pick up Kopitar, Brown or Quick. Knowing his overthinking style, he would've passes on Kopitar had he been GM in 2005 and gone with Marc Staal over Kopitar. Just like he did in 2007 with Hickey over Voracek.

I think both of you guys are taking the extremes, I mean would Taylor have been able to finish the job and build around Kopitar and Quick? Would Lombardi have won a cup here without a 19 year old #1 center to build around?

But you do have to give him credit, he added to the wonderful young pieces DT left him and won two championships, and no one can ever take that away from him. What doomed Dean here in LA was the same thing that doomed him in SJ, the inability to draft enough elite players. Dean was usually really good with his trades, but there was just an inability to stack those high end players you have to hit on in the 1st round.

Andrei Zyuzin
Marco Sturm
Patrick Marleau
Scott Hannan
Brad Stuart
Jeff Jillson
Marcel Goc
Mike Morris
Jonathan Bernier
Trevor Lewis
Thomas Hickey
Drew Doughty
Colten Teubert
Brayden Schenn
Derek Forbort
Tanner Pearson
Adrian Kempe

Leaves a lot to be desired.

Edit: I think the best situation for Lombardi and any team hiring him would be to either have the very young pieces in place like the Kings did and let Dean add to that or a situation like the Caps or Ducks are in right now, where they have plenty of talent in place just may be a move or two away from winning. I don't think a situation like Vegas where it has to be built from scratch or a situation like Colorado where it needs to be blown up and rebuilt through the draft would be a good situation for DL.

 

[Brodeur]

Lombardi didn't pick up Kopitar, Brown or Quick. Knowing his overthinking style, he would've passes on Kopitar had he been GM in 2005 and gone with Marc Staal over Kopitar. Just like he did in 2007 with Hickey over Voracek.

Unless Dean had another group of scouts, I don't think he would have meddled that much given that Kopitar was #3 on the Kings list.