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Kings News: Kings players tired of Sutter?

Jason Lewis said:
You're the hero twitter deserves, but not the one it needs.
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Maybe, but I'm just tired of the ****, I guess anyone can write anything they want and they will get away with it without anyone noticing.

As far as what "Twitter needs" it needs policing. And muting. And censoring.

Edit: Additionally, it doesn't do much good just to post a response here and not call the originator on his bull **** article.
 
Ron said:
Maybe, but I'm just tired of the ****, I guess anyone can write anything they want and they will get away with it without anyone noticing.

As far as what "Twitter needs" it needs policing. And muting. And censoring.

Edit: Additionally, it doesn't do much good just to post a response here and not call the originator on his bull **** article.
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Despite the recent losses, the Kings had one of the better records in the league down the stretch (last 30 games). That's not exactly indicative of a team that's tired of their coach.
 
Ron said:
Maybe, but I'm just tired of the ****, I guess anyone can write anything they want and they will get away with it without anyone noticing.

As far as what "Twitter needs" it needs policing. And muting. And censoring.

Edit: Additionally, it doesn't do much good just to post a response here and not call the originator on his bull **** article.
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Agree. Tired of people with a Twitter account writing false news accounts.

Media isn't what it used to be. Now there is little regard for the truth.
 
deeshamrock said:
Unless you're on that team, in that room with the door closed when Sutter is addressing the, you don't know that. I don't read anything that Brooks spits up, but what Sutter does or does not do , is known only to the players in that room. And the players have said he's an intense guy, he's emotional, he demands a lot from them. I remember Iginla saying that Sutter was very tough on them and burned their ears off a fewti mes . and they didn't always like it. And sometimes that kind of demanding style does wear thin after a few years.
But he's not going anywhere, so if that was true (and that story was picked up by other news services _ ) the players better get used to it:

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5:57 PM - 11 Apr 2015
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No, I'm not in the locker room, hence why I said from everything I seen and read. As Fishhead posted, there isn't a lot out there to support the idea that Sutter is a yeller and it's not like players would cover up that stuff. Why would they? Fans don't care if a coach is a yeller or a teddy bear, they care about results. So while no, I don't have eyeballs and ears in the locker room, from everything I've seen and read I don't have the impression Sutter does much yelling, if any. Read up on what his Flames players said about him, universal praise, and I didn't see anyone say or use the word 'yell.'

Ron said:
The only two road losses "within two weeks" (notice he didn't write "this week") were in Minnesota and Chicago.

The Kings played pretty well in Minnesota despite the final score but they had one of their worst games of the year in Chicago, and Sutter obviously knows the personnel in Chicago so I am thinking if this happened at all it was probably Chicago.
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Maybe. But I doubt Sutter knows the personnel in Chicago to that level. He hasn't coached there since 1995, that's 20 years ago. I doubt much staff is still around after that long.

Ron said:


Of all the Sutterisms, that is one of the best.
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That is great. He's pretty quick. :laugh:
 
Jeff18 said:
There is no need for coaches that are hotheads. There's a reason why Tortorella failed as a coach. Players get sick of the temper tantrums. When a coach explodes, the players think it is okay to do so. Roy will be the next to fall.

Sutter knows what he is doing and it is the correct way. Hoping the players will continue to work hard for him.
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Indeed, just from his comments in public, Sutter is all about positive reinforcement. It's what works best with dogs and kids, too.
 
While I don't doubt Sutter started to grate on the group, the story is just laughably stupid.

For starters why do this to your coach, it's not like you're not going to see the same coach at practice the very next day. I'd rather have a 10-15 minute speech than get bag skated at practice the next day for locking out the coach.

Secondly, they "barricaded" the door? What is Sutter like a werewolf and they felt they had to barricade the door to prevent him from getting inside and eating someone?

Also do the players get dressed/changed in 5 minutes now? Even on my rec league hockey team it takes me about 25 minutes at least to get dressed/showered. All it would take is a few minutes for Sutter to find someone with a key, how awkward would that be if you were one of the 6/7 guys still left in the room getting changed?
 
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So Sutter was out of the room and all the players and other coaches and trainers and equipment staff and Arena security cleaned the room in a rush to teach Sutter a lesson.
Or everyone got ready to get on the plane (the private one?) and Sutter got caught in a meeting and everyone thought he had gone ahead.
 
I don't know what;s so difficult to understand here.


This is something really common in European professional sports.

They call it "the coach can't reach the team anymore".
Nobody over there is building teams just to fire all the players.
If that happens the coach has to go, simply and plain.


This has nothing to do with disgusting players or brats.
Actually saw this coming since Sutter signed here.
The only thing that saved him from being fired is that we got 2 cups by divine intervention.


Again we have 2 generation talent players and some elite talent.
These guys just wanna play elite hockey.
If you take this away from them they will shut down mentally.
Especially when they are forced into a system that is outplayed on a nightly base and absolutely nobody than Nolan is fitting the style.

I stay with what i say since the Terry days.
Get a young unknown coach in and combine him with an excellent staff.
Someone who coaches to the strength of the team and the individual strengths of the players.

We have the players for a flashy and tricky fast pace game.
So don't slow it down on purpose. Make it fast, use the whole field to spread out like bumblebees and the puck must fly around like on a flipper table.
We have the talent and the players for that.


But what do i know, let a 3rd clone try WWE hockey
 
Kurrilino said:
I don't know what;s so difficult to understand here.


This is something really common in European professional sports.

They call it "the coach can't reach the team anymore".
Nobody over there is building teams just to fire all the players.
If that happens the coach has to go, simply and plain.


This has nothing to do with disgusting players or brats.
Actually saw this coming since Sutter signed here.
The only thing that saved him from being fired is that we got 2 cups by divine intervention.


Again we have 2 generation talent players and some elite talent.
These guys just wanna play elite hockey.
If you take this away from them they will shut down mentally.
Especially when they are forced into a system that is outplayed on a nightly base and absolutely nobody than Nolan is fitting the style.

I stay with what i say since the Terry days.
Get a young unknown coach in and combine him with an excellent staff.
Someone who coaches to the strength of the team and the individual strengths of the players.

We have the players for a flashy and tricky fast pace game.
So don't slow it down on purpose. Make it fast, use the whole field to spread out like bumblebees and the puck must fly around like on a flipper table.
We have the talent and the players for that.


But what do i know, let a 3rd clone try WWE hockey
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Pathetic on so many levels.
 
A former Kings forward told me that he loves Sutter when I got the chance to chit chat with him briefly. Sutter's a former player who protects his guys from the media and takes all the heat. His own players aren't going to disrespect him. They're not a bunch of ingrates.
 
Who knows how accurate all of this is, but there is no way it was made up out of the blue. There was just something not right about the Kings this season, especially some of the veteran players, so it wouldn't shock me if some were not happy with Sutter and things just boiled over as it was apparent that the season was slipping away. As the SFHomer said, Sutter does have a history of this, keep that in mind.

I disagree with some of his lineup decisions but overall I am a big Sutter guy and want him coaching the Kings for a long time. Hopefully with Williams, Regehr, Richards and Stoll all likely leaving to be replaced by younger, maybe less complacent players the morale will improve next season.
 
Herby said:
Who knows how accurate all of this is, but there is no way it was made up out of the blue. There was just something not right about the Kings this season, especially some of the veteran players, so it wouldn't shock me if some were not happy with Sutter and things just boiled over as it was apparent that the season was slipping away. As the SFHomer said, Sutter does have a history of this, keep that in mind.

I disagree with some of his lineup decisions but overall I am a big Sutter guy and want him coaching the Kings for a long time. Hopefully with Williams, Regehr, Richards and Stoll all likely leaving to be replaced by younger, maybe less complacent players the morale will improve next season.
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I have to agree- where there's smoke, there's fire. The story is just so bizarre it couldn't be made up. My sense is (and I've said it before), some players may have got sick and tired of being played in a restrictive, heavy system which is hard on the body (and likely the brain). They did it because it was obviously successful, but it must have been really difficult when the chips were down and the teams you were trying to catch were continually winning and staying ahead. The players may have just got fed up with it.

I honestly think there's a good chance that Sutter will be back at the ranch by the beginning of next season to be replaced by John Stevens. He won't be fired but will simply move on. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he only took the job originally as a favour to Dean Lombardi and he certainly has nothing left to prove.
 
Herby said:
Who knows how accurate all of this is, but there is no way it was made up out of the blue. There was just something not right about the Kings this season, especially some of the veteran players, so it wouldn't shock me if some were not happy with Sutter and things just boiled over as it was apparent that the season was slipping away. As the SFHomer said, Sutter does have a history of this, keep that in mind.

I disagree with some of his lineup decisions but overall I am a big Sutter guy and want him coaching the Kings for a long time. Hopefully with Williams, Regehr, Richards and Stoll all likely leaving to be replaced by younger, maybe less complacent players the morale will improve next season.
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I get that sense too. There was just something off about this year's team. They didn't look as "together/close" as they were in previous years. There was the issue of Mike Richards fiasco on top of the Voynov disaster. Those things can eat at a team. In terms of opinions and loyalties "to" and "of" each other.
 
Jon Rosen ‏@lakingsinsider 7m7 minutes ago

DL says NY post is "factually inaccurate," and that the dispute between players, coaches happened in Tampa.

lisa dillman ‏@reallisa 11s11 seconds ago

Re the Post report, Lombardi said it happened in Tampa Bay...a version of that story.
 
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