Kevyn Adams GM thread

[Fjordsen]

We re-signed Joker...

 

[sabremike]

The fact our GM is Kevyn Adams is a perfect example of why we are on every no trade list in the league. If you were a player would you want to come to such an unserious organization?

 

[debaser66]

I was there and saw 2 inflatable palm trees taken away by ushers/security, and also a paper bag that someone in a tropical shirt was using as a mask. That was just in the immediate 3-4 sections I was in/near.

At this point, Pegula is 73 years old, and has been doing this "his way" to some degree (with 2 months of LaFontaine/Patrick) for 14 years now. I don't see him changing his stripes at this point.

Even if they are forced to change, it is going to be a "job title shuffle" that the Bills mastered during the depths of their drought. That will result in another 3-year minimum before everyone unanimously agrees its not working again and they are forced to make some other half-measure change.

they are not just incompentent but also have no sense of humor, trying to sweep their own incompetence under a rug.
Probably get ready for some more cringe worthy Sabres behind scenes propaganda videos

 

[Tijuana Donkey Show]

Has no one made the, "and how is that going for you?" argument to Tpegs? It's the most obvious answer to everyone but Adams and Terry.

It’s pretty likely that there have been a few coaching and GM candidates who have said it after requesting something similar and not getting it/the job.

 

[TehDoak]

I was there and saw 2 inflatable palm trees taken away by ushers/security, and also a paper bag that someone in a tropical shirt was using as a mask. That was just in the immediate 3-4 sections I was in/near.

At this point, Pegula is 73 years old, and has been doing this "his way" to some degree (with 2 months of LaFontaine/Patrick) for 14 years now. I don't see him changing his stripes at this point.

Even if they are forced to change, it is going to be a "job title shuffle" that the Bills mastered during the depths of their drought. That will result in another 3-year minimum before everyone unanimously agrees its not working again and they are forced to make some other half-measure change.

Yeah no. When the GM is having security remove items because they hurt his feelings its time to go.

Let the people who are still paying customers have their free speech. I remember old ass Ralph Wilson making a rare appearance when Tom Donahue took signs away from fans and apologizing publicly.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Yeah no. When the GM is having security remove items because they hurt his feelings its time to go.

Let the people who are still paying customers have their free speech. I remember old ass Ralph Wilson making a rare appearance when Tom Donahue took signs away from fans and apologizing publicly.

Yah, Kevin should look up Tom Donahoe Buffalo signs apology (which WIlson made him do)

First one that throws a inflatable palm tree on the ice gets a cookie

 

[toddkaz]

Marino has M-NTC only from this season, there are 8 teams. But I'm not sure he was traded before his M-NTC was activated or not. The most annoying thing is that we could have gotten a guy like Kovacevic in the fourth round, who is currently playing very well in the top 4 of the Devils. A veteran like Jensen would probably also be a good fit for the second pair and playing with Power. But Adams was happy with everything and now he is screwed.

Also good teams pick up waiver players so why doesn't Kevyn? Does he think the roster is set? He is a liar and a con artist.

 

[toddkaz]

Yeah no. When the GM is having security remove items because they hurt his feelings its time to go.

Let the people who are still paying customers have their free speech. I remember old ass Ralph Wilson making a rare appearance when Tom Donahue took signs away from fans and apologizing publicly.

A GM complaining about Palm trees doesn't sound like one thats about to get fired. Its a comfortable response.

 

[Ehran]

A GM complaining about Palm trees doesn't sound like one thats about to get fired. Its a comfortable response.

I disagree. It sounds like a thin skinned individual who is afraid any additional bad press, more losses, or disastrous transactions will be the end.

A comfortable person doesn't make a big deal out of it.

EDIT TO ADD: KA probably believes, correctly IMO, that he will never see another high paying or highly placed gig in the NHL again and is fearful of losing this one.

 

[toddkaz]

I disagree. It sounds like a thin skinned individual who is afraid any additional bad press, more losses, or disastrous transactions will be the end.

A comfortable person doesn't make a big deal out of it.

EDIT TO ADD: KA probably believes, correctly IMO, that he will never see another high paying or highly placed gig in the NHL again and is fearful of losing this one.

You don't think the palm trees answer is straight from the mouth or Terry Pegula? We will know in about 4-5 months if Adams gets fired of if I am right.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

You don't think the palm trees answer is straight from the mouth or Terry Pegula? We will know in about 4-5 months if Adams gets fired of if I am right.

with three gm's in waiting he will not get fired but will be reassigned like Matt Ellis was in coaching. The owner doesn't like to pay to fire people.

 

[TehDoak]

I disagree. It sounds like a thin skinned individual who is afraid any additional bad press, more losses, or disastrous transactions will be the end.

A comfortable person doesn't make a big deal out of it.

EDIT TO ADD: KA probably believes, correctly IMO, that he will never see another high paying or highly placed gig in the NHL again and is fearful of losing this one.

Accurate but I doubt kevyn is highly paid

 

[Ehran]

Accurate but I doubt kevyn is highly paid

In relation to normal NHL GMs? I agree.

In relation to the average American (or pretty much any other job he's qualified for)? Probably not.

 

[Bobby Bottle Service]

Sabres Brass is getting called out on multiple channels now (Friedman, TSN, and even The Hockey Guy) but this is going to be a tough pill.

Terry will need to look at himself in the mirror to admit that *he* is the ultimate problem. Kevyn cannot fix this mess himself, and only has desperation moves left. Adams will more than likely only make this situation worse and the next GM should be allowed to take it from here.

 

[toddkaz]

with three gm's in waiting he will not get fired but will be reassigned like Matt Ellis was in coaching. The owner doesn't like to pay to fire people.

Adams is strapped in for the season no matter how many fans post they want him fired.

I am 60/40 that he will not be fired in the off season. The reason why Adams has the job in the first place is that he is a yes man and if Pegula is pulling the strings why would he fire himself?

Adams should have been "reassigned" this off season and he wasn't. No GM gets 4 years of losing and keeps their job and here is Adams on year 5.

To bring up Palm trees and taxes is not something you just blurt out. Thats a conversation I am sure he had with Pegula and maybe Lindy. Then he is telling us.

 

[Tijuana Donkey Show]

with three gm's in waiting he will not get fired but will be reassigned like Matt Ellis was in coaching. The owner doesn't like to pay to fire people.

Anything short of firing Adams will be a very low low for Sabres hockey. In the business world you can’t have somebody in the C suite just casually go back to the bull pen as an account manager.

It’s unhealthy for the individual, unhealthy for the team, and unhealthy for new leadership.

Keeping Adams in any capacity would he an utter failure.

 

[debaser66]

He is forcing "his guys" into positions the are either not ready or qualified for.

 

[Jim Bob]

Sabres Brass is getting called out on multiple channels now (Friedman, TSN, and even The Hockey Guy) but this is going to be a tough pill.

Terry will need to look at himself in the mirror to admit that *he* is the ultimate problem. Kevyn cannot fix this mess himself, and only has desperation moves left. Adams will more than likely only make this situation worse and the next GM should be allowed to take it from here.

I think Kevyn's more likely move is to be patient with "his core." Fans do not want to hear it because of the drought, but Adams has been more patient than the fans to this point. It won't shock me if he's getting calls on guys like Cozens and Quinn and he doesn't want to move them out of fear that they pop elsewhere like other talented guys he's moved out of town.

 

[Fjordsen]

I think Kevyn's more likely move is to be patient with "his core." Fans do not want to hear it because of the drought, but Adams has been more patient than the fans to this point. It won't shock me if he's getting calls on guys like Cozens and Quinn and he doesn't want to move them out of fear that they pop elsewhere like other talented guys he's moved out of town.

If you don't trade out of fear... Well, I don't know. We need to do something with our top 6 anyway.

 

[Jim Bob]

If you don't trade out of fear... Well, I don't know. We need to do something with our top 6 anyway.

It might not be fear, it could be confidence in the talent of the player long term.

Adams might be more patient and not have any urgency to try and do everything he can to make the playoffs this season. And the expectation that Adams had to make the playoffs this season to keep his job may be wishcasting by fans more than reality.

 

[Fjordsen]

It might not be fear, it could be confidence in the talent of the player long term.

Adams might be more patient and not have any urgency to try and do everything he can to make the playoffs this season. And the expectation that Adams had to make the playoffs this season to keep his job may be wishcasting by fans more than reality.

I don't think Adams will survive this as a GM if he doesn't make the playoffs.

 

[Jim Bob]

I don't think Adams will survive this as a GM if he doesn't make the playoffs.

I don't think Pegula is judging Adams on his win/loss record even if the fans and media are.

 

[Fjordsen]

I don't think Pegula is judging Adams on his win/loss record even if the fans and media are.

Only time will judge us. Even if he gets promoted to POHO, it will still mean to everyone except Terry that he failed and will never be a GM in the NHL again.

 

[Jim Bob]

Only time will judge us. Even if he gets promoted to POHO, it will still mean to everyone except Terry that he failed and will never be a GM in the NHL again.

Pegula has repeatedly dismissed the idea of a POHO and has implemented more flat reporting structures with the Bills and Sabres. I don't think he wants to run his team that way.

My guess is that when the day comes that Adams is no longer the GM, he probably slides to a job either with the Jr Sabres or HarborCenter or on the business side of the Sabres.

 

[Fjordsen]

Pegula has repeatedly dismissed the idea of a POHO and has implemented more flat reporting structures with the Bills and Sabres. I don't think he wants to run his team that way.

My guess is that when the day comes that Adams is no longer the GM, he probably slides to a job either with the Jr Sabres or HarborCenter or on the business side of the Sabres.

Well, ok, any other position, but not GM.