Player Discussion Kevin Shattenkirk

duffy

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The downside is that you waste another year with a first round exit and Lohrei falls behind in development because you spent $1 million on a mid 30s past his prime defenseman that created an unnecessary log jam. All of which, btw, is because the owner of the Bruins is the real life doppelganger of Monty Burns that nickels and dimes the fans and puts his precious playoff gate above having a healthy and stable hockey club. Sometimes, playing the kids is the best option you can do rather than stash them away and letting them rot in the AHL.
Seems to have worked for Detroit for 30 to 40 years.
 

Kegs

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This is secretly an upgrade on the defence. I’d say he 99% plays on the starting roster baring injury all season. I still think he has a lot to bring. He is better than Clifton. Worse than orlov better than Clifton. 1mil ish. Can’t beat these vet deals I guess. We wanted us a brand new orlov. What we got was 34 year old shattenkirk
 
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CDJ

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He’s a sturdy guy, I think because he was so offensive minded for a lot of his career people forget he’ll straddle the line and take some runs at people. Guy can hit. He’s not a punisher per say but he will definitely be physical.
 

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He’s smooth on the PP. Runs it well, has a knack for making good decisions on PP when handling puck. As for his shot, he has a good shot but on the PP you’ll see him find ways funneling the puck to the net setting up scoring opportunities more.
Thanks. Sounds a lot like what we had in Krug. Speaking of, I don't follow the Blues, has Krug been used on the PP? How would you compare him to Shattenkirk in that one aspect?
 

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Thanks. Sounds a lot like what we had in Krug. Speaking of, I don't follow the Blues, has Krug been used on the PP? How would you compare him to Shattenkirk in that one aspect?

Yes, Krug and Faulk both run the PP here. Krug hasn’t been as explosive here as he was in Boston. The expectations were high and the goals just haven’t followed him to STL. Last year was a rough year for him so now he’s kind of in the dog house. But I still think he’s good and the criticism he gets is unfair. I expect him to bounce back this year.

Overall, Krug is better than Shattenkirk right now. On the PP, Krug will fire it more often, but Shattenkirk is very crafty in how he runs a PP. Has a little Erik Karlsson in him in a cerebral sense when he runs the PP. I prefer Kevin when it comes to running the PP.
 

BlackFrancis

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Yes, Krug and Faulk both run the PP here. Krug hasn’t been as explosive here as he was in Boston. The expectations were high and the goals just haven’t followed him to STL. Last year was a rough year for him so now he’s kind of in the dog house. But I still think he’s good and the criticism he gets is unfair. I expect him to bounce back this year.

Overall, Krug is better than Shattenkirk right now. On the PP, Krug will fire it more often, but Shattenkirk is very crafty in how he runs a PP. Has a little Erik Karlsson in him in a cerebral sense when he runs the PP. I prefer Kevin when it comes to running the PP.
Krug's slapshot was never the same after surgery on the shoulder. He can still score crafty goals and an occasional clapper gets through, but nothing close to the nightmare he gave the Rangers that first playoff series of his.
 

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Duck fan here, same one who said Ducks' GM gave away a cornerstone in trading Lindholm to Boston.

Shattenkirk gets a bad rap in Anaheim. He played top-4 minutes, on the PP, and on the PK as an offensive d-man. Whenever Manson would fall into injury, then Shatty would be inserted into the PK.

Shattenkirk w/ Ducks
LD LindholmRD MansonRD ShattenkirkShatty
SeasonNHL GamesGames PlayedGames PlayedGames PlayedATOI
2020-21
56​
18​
23​
55​
21:12​
2021-2263 with L & M (82 game season)
61​
45​
82​
21:25​
2022-23
82​
0​
0​
75​
19:18​

2020-21
Lindholm was his partner to start the 2020-21. Obviously, that didn't pan out as Lindholm only played 18 games. Also, Manson missing 23 games meant Shattenkirk had to play PK for 33 games.

2021-22
Anaheim was riding high with a top-5 PP unit, top-5 PK unit, and was in playoff contention until the team got the injury bug, with Manson falling to injury around All-star break. Shattenkirk was elevated to top-4 when Manson is injured. Shattenkirk was part of the PK unit as the org wouldn't trust the rookies Drysdale or Mahura.

Lindholm - Drysdale (rookie)​
Fowler- Manson​
Benoit/Mahura (both rookies) - Shattenkirk​

2022-23

Fowler-Klingberg​
Kulikov-Drysdale​
Beaulieu-Shattenkirk​
Benoit​
Vaakanainen​

Shatty was slated for 3rd pairing duties again, but Drysdale had a season ending injury eight games into the season. Shattenkirk again is elevated to top-4 duties, PP, and PK. Shattenkirk was probably the Ducks' best defensive d-man last year... unfortunately. Babysitting Vaak was not a great pairing for Shatty. Vaaks was a -16 in only 23 games!

Anaheim's roster was so weak last year that they owned the 2nd worst GF record, the worst GA record, and worst GD record.

Shattenkirk
SeasonTeamGPGAPtsPlus/MinusATOI
2017-18NYR
46​
5​
18​
23​
-14​
20:16​
2018-19NYR
73​
2​
26​
28​
-15​
18:56​
2019-20TB
70​
8​
26​
34​
22​
18:54​
2020-21Ana
55​
2​
13​
15​
-8​
21:12​
2021-22Ana
82​
8​
27​
35​
-9​
21:25​
2022-23Ana
75​
4​
23​
27​
-20​
19:18​

Shatty is a durable player who can PK if need be. That's a testament to Shatty keeping himself in shape. Apparently, he can still score on an abysmal team that finished last in the league.

In Anaheim, too many fans are expecting Shattenkirk to be a top-4D who can kill penalties. Therein lies the problem. He's a bottom pairing offensive D who plays on the PP2 unit.

If Shatty is going to be used as a proper 3rd pairing who's on the PP2 unit, then he's more than serviceable for $1 mil contract. Could be a steal for $1 mil.
 

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Duck fan here, same one who said Ducks' GM gave away a cornerstone in trading Lindholm to Boston.

Shattenkirk gets a bad rap in Anaheim. He played top-4 minutes, on the PP, and on the PK as an offensive d-man. Whenever Manson would fall into injury, then Shatty would be inserted into the PK.

Shattenkirk w/ Ducks
LD LindholmRD MansonRD ShattenkirkShatty
SeasonNHL GamesGames PlayedGames PlayedGames PlayedATOI
2020-21
56​
18​
23​
55​
21:12​
2021-2263 with L & M (82 game season)
61​
45​
82​
21:25​
2022-23
82​
0​
0​
75​
19:18​

2020-21
Lindholm was his partner to start the 2020-21. Obviously, that didn't pan out as Lindholm only played 18 games. Also, Manson missing 23 games meant Shattenkirk had to play PK for 33 games.

2021-22
Anaheim was riding high with a top-5 PP unit, top-5 PK unit, and was in playoff contention until the team got the injury bug, with Manson falling to injury around All-star break. Shattenkirk was elevated to top-4 when Manson is injured. Shattenkirk was part of the PK unit as the org wouldn't trust the rookies Drysdale or Mahura.

Lindholm - Drysdale (rookie)​
Fowler- Manson​
Benoit/Mahura (both rookies) - Shattenkirk​

2022-23

Fowler-Klingberg​
Kulikov-Drysdale​
Beaulieu-Shattenkirk​
Benoit​
Vaakanainen​

Shatty was slated for 3rd pairing duties again, but Drysdale had a season ending injury eight games into the season. Shattenkirk again is elevated to top-4 duties, PP, and PK. Shattenkirk was probably the Ducks' best defensive d-man last year... unfortunately. Babysitting Vaak was not a great pairing for Shatty. Vaaks was a -16 in only 23 games!

Anaheim's roster was so weak last year that they owned the 2nd worst GF record, the worst GA record, and worst GD record.

Shattenkirk
SeasonTeamGPGAPtsPlus/MinusATOI
2017-18NYR
46​
5​
18​
23​
-14​
20:16​
2018-19NYR
73​
2​
26​
28​
-15​
18:56​
2019-20TB
70​
8​
26​
34​
22​
18:54​
2020-21Ana
55​
2​
13​
15​
-8​
21:12​
2021-22Ana
82​
8​
27​
35​
-9​
21:25​
2022-23Ana
75​
4​
23​
27​
-20​
19:18​

Shatty is a durable player who can PK if need be. That's a testament to Shatty keeping himself in shape. Apparently, he can still score on an abysmal team that finished last in the league.

In Anaheim, too many fans are expecting Shattenkirk to be a top-4D who can kill penalties. Therein lies the problem. He's a bottom pairing offensive D who plays on the PP2 unit.

If Shatty is going to be used as a proper 3rd pairing who's on the PP2 unit, then he's more than serviceable for $1 mil contract. Could be a steal for $1 mil.
Thank you for taking the time to post this! Great info.
 

PB37

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I'm starting to feel better about this signing. We'll see how he performs.

One thing I noticed while looking at his stat sheet: he's always averaged top 4 minutes of TOI. Will he be more effective playing less minutes in a lesser role?
 
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Blowfish

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Duck fan here, same one who said Ducks' GM gave away a cornerstone in trading Lindholm to Boston.

Shattenkirk gets a bad rap in Anaheim. He played top-4 minutes, on the PP, and on the PK as an offensive d-man. Whenever Manson would fall into injury, then Shatty would be inserted into the PK.

Shattenkirk w/ Ducks
LD LindholmRD MansonRD ShattenkirkShatty
SeasonNHL GamesGames PlayedGames PlayedGames PlayedATOI
2020-21
56​
18​
23​
55​
21:12​
2021-2263 with L & M (82 game season)
61​
45​
82​
21:25​
2022-23
82​
0​
0​
75​
19:18​

2020-21
Lindholm was his partner to start the 2020-21. Obviously, that didn't pan out as Lindholm only played 18 games. Also, Manson missing 23 games meant Shattenkirk had to play PK for 33 games.

2021-22
Anaheim was riding high with a top-5 PP unit, top-5 PK unit, and was in playoff contention until the team got the injury bug, with Manson falling to injury around All-star break. Shattenkirk was elevated to top-4 when Manson is injured. Shattenkirk was part of the PK unit as the org wouldn't trust the rookies Drysdale or Mahura.

Lindholm - Drysdale (rookie)​
Fowler- Manson​
Benoit/Mahura (both rookies) - Shattenkirk​

2022-23

Fowler-Klingberg​
Kulikov-Drysdale​
Beaulieu-Shattenkirk​
Benoit​
Vaakanainen​

Shatty was slated for 3rd pairing duties again, but Drysdale had a season ending injury eight games into the season. Shattenkirk again is elevated to top-4 duties, PP, and PK. Shattenkirk was probably the Ducks' best defensive d-man last year... unfortunately. Babysitting Vaak was not a great pairing for Shatty. Vaaks was a -16 in only 23 games!

Anaheim's roster was so weak last year that they owned the 2nd worst GF record, the worst GA record, and worst GD record.

Shattenkirk
SeasonTeamGPGAPtsPlus/MinusATOI
2017-18NYR
46​
5​
18​
23​
-14​
20:16​
2018-19NYR
73​
2​
26​
28​
-15​
18:56​
2019-20TB
70​
8​
26​
34​
22​
18:54​
2020-21Ana
55​
2​
13​
15​
-8​
21:12​
2021-22Ana
82​
8​
27​
35​
-9​
21:25​
2022-23Ana
75​
4​
23​
27​
-20​
19:18​

Shatty is a durable player who can PK if need be. That's a testament to Shatty keeping himself in shape. Apparently, he can still score on an abysmal team that finished last in the league.

In Anaheim, too many fans are expecting Shattenkirk to be a top-4D who can kill penalties. Therein lies the problem. He's a bottom pairing offensive D who plays on the PP2 unit.

If Shatty is going to be used as a proper 3rd pairing who's on the PP2 unit, then he's more than serviceable for $1 mil contract. Could be a steal for $1 mil.
Thanks for posting. Informative. After reading this I feel much better about moving away from Clifton. Like others have posted. He could be a steal.
 

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