Rumor: Kevin Hayes to St. Louis gaining steam - rumored to be 'huge' deal involving many players

[Viqsi]

When did the shine wear off of Roslovic? I know he started out amazing with CBJ - what happened?

The same thing that has always been the issue with him - lack of consistency, particularly in his own zone.

 

[CBJx614]

They currently have the following players on defense:

Werenski - 9.5 million
Severson - 6.25 million
Provorov - 4.725 million
Gudbranson - 4 million
Peeke - 2.75 million
Boqvist - 2.6 million
Bean - 2.33 million

Jiricek should absolutely be on their opening night roster and they have other talented young D pushing for spots. I would imagine they will try to move at least one of if not two of Gudbranson/ Peeke/Bean to free up cap space and make other moves.

Most of us Jackets fans want Jiricek stapled with Svozil in the AHL next season munching 1st pairing minutes. And then have at least Jiricek make the transition to top 4 NHL D the following season.

And then Svozil, Ceulemans and Mateychuk competing the season after.

Which means trades will be made between them an now but I think we're better off making Jiricek force his way into the lineup instead of gifting him a spot.

 

[ViD]

Jiricek ie waiver exempt so he’s destined to the AHL unless he blows everyone out of water in the pre season camp

 

[YP44]

ROR, that's who I want Columbus to get. He'd be perfect for them.

think he would be good fit in chicago to buffer bedard

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Whoever gets Hayes will be happy with him I'm sure

He isn't bad at all. It's just his contract, but that will end soon enough.

 

[YP44]

Whoever gets Hayes will be happy with him I'm sure

He isn't bad at all. It's just his contract, but that will end soon enough.

only three more years seems pretty palatable IMO. If Briere does not get any decent offers best to keep him

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Most of us Jackets fans want Jiricek stapled with Svozil in the AHL next season munching 1st pairing minutes.

He might be too good for that. You can definitely overcook in the AHL.

 

[Viqsi]

He might be too good for that. You can definitely overcook in the AHL.

Possibly, but that'll be determined during training camp.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

only three more years seems pretty palatable IMO. If Briere does not get any decent offers best to keep him

For sure - his contract isn't so bad anymore. Put him at C, he'll be good there for at least 2 years if not the entire contract. If you get him at 50%, you can buy him out or just trade him again.

 

[Rich Nixon]

The same thing that has always been the issue with him - lack of consistency, particularly in his own zone.

Well, it'd be a real coup if they could replace him with, uh, Kevin Hayes--the polar opposite!

 

[The Madrigal]

Thanks to Trotz giving away Johansen for nothing the idea of Hayes returning the Flyers a late first round pick at 50% retention is nothing more than a broken pipe dream. I would also say it's massively unlikely that they get a 2nd. Hayes is coming off of a good year and Johansen was bad and hurt so maybe he has more value but at this point a 3rd or 4th is probably the absolute best Briere could do. Thanks a lot no neck.

 

[Xoggz22]

Thanks to Trotz giving away Johansen for nothing the idea of Hayes returning the Flyers a late first round pick at 50% retention is nothing more than a broken pipe dream. I would also say it's massively unlikely that they get a 2nd. Hayes is coming off of a good year and Johansen was bad and hurt so maybe he has more value but at this point a 3rd or 4th is probably the absolute best Briere could do. Thanks a lot no neck.

Nah... you could still move him with a first

 

[thedjpd]

Thanks to Trotz giving away Johansen for nothing the idea of Hayes returning the Flyers a late first round pick at 50% retention is nothing more than a broken pipe dream. I would also say it's massively unlikely that they get a 2nd. Hayes is coming off of a good year and Johansen was bad and hurt so maybe he has more value but at this point a 3rd or 4th is probably the absolute best Briere could do. Thanks a lot no neck.

It’s the risk of waiting. When things are hot, you have to move.

It’s why I’m worried about Briere holding out on Laughton and TK deals (assuming the rumored offers are true) to just ‘squeeze’ an extra pick or two.

 

[The Madrigal]

It’s the risk of waiting. When things are hot, you have to move.

It’s why I’m worried about Briere holding out on Laughton and TK deals (assuming the rumored offers are true) to just ‘squeeze’ an extra pick or two.

Maybe with Laughton but I would disagree on Konecny. Just because you rebuild doesn't mean you trade everyone immediately. I would only trade Konecny right now for an offer I couldn't refuse. If Briere really was offered a late first and future 2nd for Laughton and there isn't a better offer by Wednesday night I would take that and move on.

 

[Fire Sweeney]

Thanks to Trotz giving away Johansen for nothing the idea of Hayes returning the Flyers a late first round pick at 50% retention is nothing more than a broken pipe dream. I would also say it's massively unlikely that they get a 2nd. Hayes is coming off of a good year and Johansen was bad and hurt so maybe he has more value but at this point a 3rd or 4th is probably the absolute best Briere could do. Thanks a lot no neck.

Not Barry the fatty´s fault that Hayes is trash.

 

[3074326]

Thanks to Trotz giving away Johansen for nothing the idea of Hayes returning the Flyers a late first round pick at 50% retention is nothing more than a broken pipe dream. I would also say it's massively unlikely that they get a 2nd. Hayes is coming off of a good year and Johansen was bad and hurt so maybe he has more value but at this point a 3rd or 4th is probably the absolute best Briere could do. Thanks a lot no neck.

Hayes getting a first was always a pipe dream.

 

[The Madrigal]

Not Barry the fatty´s fault that Hayes is trash.

Hello hyperbole my old friend. Being overpaid is not being trash, it's just being overpaid.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Thanks to Trotz giving away Johansen for nothing the idea of Hayes returning the Flyers a late first round pick at 50% retention is nothing more than a broken pipe dream. I would also say it's massively unlikely that they get a 2nd. Hayes is coming off of a good year and Johansen was bad and hurt so maybe he has more value but at this point a 3rd or 4th is probably the absolute best Briere could do. Thanks a lot no neck.

No kidding. Fat boy trotz just killed the Hayes market

 

[Bond]

Has the fourth period ever actually broke anything?

 

[The Madrigal]

Hayes getting a first was always a pipe dream.

Maybe, but at 50% retained or only a 3.5 million aav, we have seen far worse players go for a first and even more than a first.

 

[Djp]

Thanks to Trotz giving away Johansen for nothing the idea of Hayes returning the Flyers a late first round pick at 50% retention is nothing more than a broken pipe dream. I would also say it's massively unlikely that they get a 2nd. Hayes is coming off of a good year and Johansen was bad and hurt so maybe he has more value but at this point a 3rd or 4th is probably the absolute best Briere could do. Thanks a lot no neck.

that wasn’t going to happen.

not many teams had the cap space nd needs were not for him
colorado was one of the few teams who had some interest but the ask was too high.

if Toronto was to trade Matthews they could look at Hayes as a 2C

thr other option to max return would be if flyers and another rebuilding team like Anaheim agreed to retain on each others players to get max return. He passes thru Anaheim down to say $2M per opens things up.

 

[Pavelski2112]

Has the fourth period ever actually broke anything?

Blind squirrels and acorns and all that. Hell, even Eklund got lucky enough for some people to consider him an insider.

 

[The Madrigal]

that wasn’t going to happen.

not many teams had the cap space nd needs were not for him
colorado was one of the few teams who had some interest but the ask was too high.

if Toronto was to trade Matthews they could look at Hayes as a 2C

thr other option to max return would be if flyers and another rebuilding team like Anaheim agreed to retain on each others players to get max return. He passes thru Anaheim down to say $2M per opens things up.

Hayes is a 50 point center and if the Flyers retain 50% and get him down to 3.5 million he is not only valuable but a bargain compared to what players will get on July 1 in a weak UFA crop of centers.

 

[Monsieur Verdoux]

 

[The Madrigal]

Interesting