Pre-Game Talk: Kent Hughes Presser, Thursday morning, June 8th 2023 9:30 am

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...just the way he almost "brushed off" the Michkov questions makes me think he's gonna do the same as he did with Slaf; see the possibilities and take who he thinks will be the best player in the future, not necessarily the now...

They were pretty apparent they were considering Slafkovsky..

The fact they had the draft lottery a month ago and he still says they haven't done their due diligence, etc.
 
Completely irrelevant comparison. If Michkov falls it isn't because he is short. It is because of political uncertainty or uncertainty about whether he will come over even if he was allowed to.
His statement was a player should be passed because other teams passed, and just because it isn't the same reason doesn't make it irrelevant.
 
How many dinos have led teams to cups? How many analytics kids have? I know Dubas couldn't trade for guys on the eye test until O'Reilly. His analytics work failed him.

In today's NHL, I think you need both analytics and eye-test. One should inform the other and I don't think any one method of analysis should be over-relied upon.

I don't think Brisebois is a dino and he seems to have done fine.
 
They were pretty apparent they were considering Slafkovsky..

The fact they had the draft lottery a month ago and he still says they haven't done their due diligence, etc.
Why do you believe him

...just the way he almost "brushed off" the Michkov questions makes me think he's gonna do the same as he did with Slaf; see the possibilities and take who he thinks will be the best player in the future, not necessarily the now...
They did repeat ad nauseam last year that they didn’t want the best 18 year old, they wanted the best 22-23 year old.. :dunno:
 
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Did anyone ask about Benson? Would've loved to hear his thoughts on him.

I give Benson approximately a 0% chance of Hughes taking him at 5 OA

In today's NHL, I think you need both analytics and eye-test. One should inform the other and I don't think any one method of analysis should be over-relied upon.

I don't think Brisebois is a dino and he seems to have done fine.

Analytics never inform the eye test, they simply point to things that need an eye test that may have been overlooked. The eye test is always the determining method.
 
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Why do you believe him


They did repeat ad nauseam last year that they didn’t want the best 18 year old, they wanted the best 22-23 year old.. :dunno:

I believe him because he's been a straight shooter the whole time and literally nobody half way connected to the Montreal Canadiens believe they have even the slightest interest in even smoke screening they are interested in him.
 
His statement was a player should be passed because other teams passed, and just because it isn't the same reason doesn't make it irrelevant.
OK. But he wasn't saying they should pass. He was asking if they do pass and Michkov ends up going several picks later would we be more likely to accept the decision.
 
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I give Benson approximately a 0% chance of Hughes taking him at 5 OA



Analytics never inform the eye test, they simply point to things that need an eye test that may have been overlooked. The eye test is always the determining method.

I'd suggest that depends on the sample size of you having seen the player. If it's large, I'd tend to agree with you. If not, Analytics could point you toward flaws in their game that you would need to look for when eye testing.
 
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His statement was a player should be passed because other teams passed, and just because it isn't the same reason doesn't make it irrelevant.

OK. But he wasn't saying they should pass. He was asking if they do pass and Michkov ends up going several picks later would we be more likely to accept the decision.

Boss Man Hughes is correct. I am not at all saying they should pass. I have Michkov 3rd, so I'd do it but I'm just a dude on his phone.

NHL teams at 15 are doing their if Michkov is available scenarios. The league doesn't know if he goes 4 or 15, but the risk profile is high.

So at what point of Michkov falling do people realize the Habs wouldn't be passing because they are stupid but because a bunch of organizations also feel that there's too much uncertainty.

You can get mad if they pass at 5 but what does that say if he's passed on at 6, or 7, what if Washington passes at 8?

Malkin had to be smuggled out of Russia and he went 2 overall. What does that say about Michkovs perceived upside around the league if teams are willing to take Smith over him, or Leonard or Reinbacher or Dvorsky? It's possible that in addition to the risk that there's a sense among the scouts and teams that Michkovs game hasn't grown the way it has needed to since the last time he played against his peer group, two years ago.
 
OK. But he wasn't saying they should pass. He was asking if they do pass and Michkov ends up going several picks later would we be more likely to accept the decision.

Not if he becomes a superstar in the nhl and the player we draft becomes just average.
 
I've seen nothing to suggest that to be the case.

And we wouldn't get any real indications one way or another.

Come on, man, you really think Hughes would show his hand? He'd make sure the message is controlled and doesn't infer to his actual leanings, while trying to bait possible suitors for a big payoff.

Also, they haven't interviewed Michkov yet and we know just how much weight they put on those.
 
And we wouldn't get any real indications one way or another.

Come on, man, you really think Hughes would show his hand? He'd make sure the message is controlled and doesn't infer to his actual leanings, while trying to bait possible suitors for a big payoff.

Also, they haven't interviewed Michkov yet and we know just how much weight they put on those.

There's a difference between showing a hand and showing any little bit of interest or desire in taking a player.

Do we know their intentions 100%? No. But do we really think the Habs are all in on the idea of selecting someone they haven't started their due diligence on, when they've known about where they are picking for a month now? They were asked about Michkov literally seconds after their draft positioning was locked in.

Everyone around the team keeps telling us, they don't want to take Michkov.

Everyone around the league keeps saying, there's a really big sense that Michkov is going to slide and they don't know when that slide is going to end.

The fan base clearly wants Michkov due to the hype for years and years on a guy, it's the same situation as Wright last year. But it's probably gonna go the same way here. The more people keep trying to talk themselves into a pretzel to keep hope they'll make the Michkov pick, the bigger the negative reaction is going to be when they pass.
 
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