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News Article: Kassian to have hearing with league (Suspended 2 games)
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stratedge
My relationship with the Oilers is abusive.
I'm certain he enjoyed his win, that his team will be going to the playoffs and Kassian's will not, and his big fat paycheque because he knows how to win games and the Oilers do not. Pounding on him while he's turtling makes for a nice consolation prize for some fans but after missing the playoffs 13 of 14 years now I'll take a win over a superficial fight any day.
This team needs players who value winning over anything else.
Jumptheshark
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I say we bomb the nhl player safety twitter until the not only explain but defend the blind side head shot
KeithIsActuallyBad
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stratedge
My relationship with the Oilers is abusive.
Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisssss. Why is this so hard for fans and professional hockey players alike to understand?
We should be talking this morning about how long Gaudreau is out of the line up. The flames aren't taking advantage of how weak the Oilers are, they're taking advantage of how stupid and gullible they are.
Remember that big hit one of the Oilers laid on Gaudreau that one game a while back? Neither do I.
SupremeTeam16
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I said this on the mains, Tkachuks technique is fine but it’s his intent. It was clear he was targeting Kassian all night in vulnerable positions when he was near stationary, engaged with another player and completely unsuspecting. He would come from another part of the ice to really lean into him, that coming from above the goal line to destroy a guy behind the net is the kind of stuff the league used to hate.
it’s a dirt ball move but as long as you keep your elbow tucked and don’t elevate through the hit its likely gonna go uncalled but will catch the opponent with a devastating blow and he only does it against a guy he knows the officials don’t really have any sympathy for and a guy he knows won’t let that shit go.
I can’t fault Kassian for reacting that was even though it directly cost the team the game. But it has to end there, Calgary is likely expecting an emotional opponent next meeting and they will look to goad players into taking penalties and they’ll just focus on playing. The Oilers need to come with the games of their lives and take the next two from Calgary and hurt them where it really counts.
We have last change next game I would basically game plan to have a player who’s sole assignment is to take Tkachuk out if he game and I mean in the sense that you cover him like a fly on $hit. Make him completely ineffective.
it’s a dirt ball move but as long as you keep your elbow tucked and don’t elevate through the hit its likely gonna go uncalled but will catch the opponent with a devastating blow and he only does it against a guy he knows the officials don’t really have any sympathy for and a guy he knows won’t let that shit go.
I can’t fault Kassian for reacting that was even though it directly cost the team the game. But it has to end there, Calgary is likely expecting an emotional opponent next meeting and they will look to goad players into taking penalties and they’ll just focus on playing. The Oilers need to come with the games of their lives and take the next two from Calgary and hurt them where it really counts.
We have last change next game I would basically game plan to have a player who’s sole assignment is to take Tkachuk out if he game and I mean in the sense that you cover him like a fly on $hit. Make him completely ineffective.
Exactly! Going after Tkachuk in a retaliatory way is pointless. Kassian is a bigger, stronger guy. Throw your weight around against Gaudreau and others the same way Tkachuk does. Say what you want bout him, he did his job. And no amount of turtle memes will change the fact that they walked away with two points, while we have zero plus, possibly, a suspension. We need to be smarter than playing into Tkachuk strategy.
booyakasha
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best part of the article :
"-As for Rasmus Andersson, you may recall that in the Vernon rookie tournament in 2015 he picked a fight with Darnell Nurse. Nurse speed-bagged him. Next year, the Flames (very unhappy with Andersson getting beaten up so badly) sent tough guy Hunter Smith over the boards after Darnell. Nurse promptly broke Smith’s nose. Guess that’s how Andersson makes guys pay? Apparently others have to fight for him, too."
first hit on Kass was a clear headshot, how is that technique fine?!
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Don’t imagine you’d be singing the same tune if it happened to your previous baby boy EP40.
Oh, and...
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Good grief. It’s one game. Have you checked the standings?
Stoneman89
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But this type of thing will likely inspire that type of play. As was said on here, sometimes you lose a skirmish to get your head set on right and then can win the war. The Oilers have gone a long time with no one fighting back. And they seem to have that now with Kassian, Nurse, and Drai. Even McDavid took a run at Tkachuk.
And it's fine to go after Little Johnny. And as we've seen so many times, a hit like Tkachuk laid on Kassian last night, would likely result in a 5-10 game suspension for our team's player. Just keep in mind that McDavid is fair game as well, and we all know how the league does such a "great job" of calling penalties against other players who foul him. Personally, I want the Oilers to go after Lindhom, Little Johnny, AND Tkachuk. It would sure be nice if someone like Khaira would step up to the plate and use that big size to a huge advantage and start punishing people.
It's easy for you as a fan to sit back and say,"well, he should do this or that." But you're not in the game other than a bystander, and don't see or feel all the nuances of what is really happening out there. I'm sure they'll be taking about it as they go forward, and the team will develop a "strategy" to deal with it. And I't sure every player in that dressing room has Kassian's back.
SupremeTeam16
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I’ll admit I haven’t re watched the hits from different angles and I’m sure one of them could of been high but on the one where he blew up I didn’t think he caught him in the head. It was just devastating because of the situation, I mean Kassian is a big heavy boy who’s strong on his skates and he got blown up, what happens if Tkachuk targets a guy like Nuge in a position like that.
Stoneman89
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No kidding, some people on here are relating this one game to us missing the playoffs. This is the type of stuff that galvanizes a team, and MAKES them a playoff team. McDavid and Drai are going to be pumped beyond belief for the next time and every one after that.
Drivesaitl
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Well sure, but that doesn't alter that the reason this occurs at all is that NHL jurisprudence is typically whacked and favors some players over others. Look at Tkachuks penalties taken and penalties drawn stats and wonder whether that is real.
In a different age your namesake had some licence as well that shouldn't have been there. had licence to use his elbows at will, had licence to go at Larry Robinson swinging his stick at him in the playoffs.
Not just the Oilers, not just the Flames, the NHL chronically does a poor job with objective calling and control of games and its when they get out of hand.
This is the same NHL that allowed the Broadstreet bullies to pummel opponents for ratings.
Its a league that sells out it product for this dimestore stuff.
people aren't upset at just Tkachuk, its that the NHL always reinforces this kind of thing. The NHL wants there to be this bad blood. Those are the unfortunate aspects, the latest symptoms are just Tkachuk and Kass, the league hasn't changed that much since Makita and Teddy Greene RIP were swinging sticks at each other and trying to carve their eyes out.
The NHL gets to decide what it wants to be. When will it decide?
Stoneman89
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No, wrong. They need players to just do their jobs. Whatever those jobs are. And to do them competently, whether it's stopping the puck, making solid defensive plays, forechecking aggressively, bearing down on chances, and playing with passion and as a team. Everyone doing their job, whatever that may be. Mistakes are going to happen, everyone is human. But do that most nights, and we win more than we lose, having players like McDavid and Drai to lead the way.
Delicious Pancakes
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No doubt. Holland should be sending that video to the league with three letters written in his email: "WTF?"
Initial point of contact on the first Tkachuk hit is undoubtedly to the head and neck on an unsuspecting and vulnerable player. If that was Tkachuk taking that hit from Kassian it would have been 5 and a game. The double standard is disgusting.
Then Tkachuk takes another predatory run at Kassian where again Kassian is engaged below the goal line with Giordano facing the boards and doesn't see Tkachuk coming. Watch the video of the second hit and slow it down (you'll have to manually control the player to pause at point of contact). Kassian starts turning away from the boards and isn't quite 90 degrees to the goal line when Tkachuk hits him. No way Tkachuk takes a run at Kassian there if his head is up, but since Kassian is in an unsuspecting position Tkachuk goes in hard and turns to catch Kassian up high making primary contact with his shoulder to the side of Kassian's head and his upper arm and elbow making primary contact with the back of Kassian's shoulder and upper back. Hits on the back side 3 feet from the boards have the potential to break a guy's neck and Tkachuk never let up. That was a reckless hit.
There's a reason Kassian took matters into his own hands. He has to protect himself if the refs and the league won't. Those hits both had the potential to severely injure Kassian and by the letter of the NHL's rule book both Tkachuk hits should have been penalized, with the first being suspension worthy. DoPS needs to suspend Tkachuk. Not suspending him is enabling these predatory and dangerous hits and goes against their own rules for head hits.
What exactly do you think was done? Kassian proved Tkachuk was a turtle? We've known that since literally his first game in the league.
You think Tkachuk isn't going to go out there and take a hundred more runs at Kassian every chance he gets? This isn't the first time he's made a laughing stock of Kassian being unable to control his anger. It probably wont be the last.
Kassian is a goon who got suckered into costing his team a game and now is going to face further punishment.
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That is a great article. Love the recount of previous events in light of Rasmus Andersson’s comments. Makes him look like a complete bitch.
I also love Ray Ferraro’s comment comparing the Tkachuk hits to the predatory hits Torres used to throw that got him multi-game suspensions.
If Kassian is getting suspended 2 games and misses the next BoA, they better do the same to Tkachuk. You want to “manage” a situation and “diffuse” tensions, do it across the board or don’t do it at all.
Drivesaitl
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in what league are goons producing at a .640 clip?
ps ''the goon" has two less goals than the pos that he went after.
Kass to me had something to do with the run the Oilers had in the playoffs in 16-17 and he's somewhat of an emotional heater for this club. Part of its mojo. You take the good and bad with that, just as if the name was McSorley (and trust me there were some really bad aspects)
But you still need guys like Kass on a team and you role with it.
Kass didn't cost the team the game there was a whole period left and the Oilers had lots of chances to score. The Oilers D made some bizarre plays in this one, cost us a couple GA, and we weren't as airtight defensively as we need to be. Lots of reasons for the loss. Any of the Oilers scoring chances go in in the 3rd period and people are talking this up differently and that Kass sparked the win. Its a lot of revisionist views going on imho.
