Value of: Kaprizov this off-season

[roon]

The Wild need a lot of help up and down their lineup. Sure our prospect pool is decent - but its full of middle six talent...

Kaprizov is going to demand a big payday and I simply don't feel like paying a 28 year old winger 13 million a year for 7/8 years is in the best interests of this club.

So - what is your teams best offer? Looking for young blue chip 1st line C's or draft picks. Can be Kaprizov plus for the right deal obviously, but we simply need to move on from the Foligno's/Hartmans/Freddy G's of the world taking up more than 4th line minutes if we are ever going to be anything but a 1st round exit.

I'm sure other Wild fans will come in telling me I'm wrong or out of my mind. Realistically though trading him is our best chance at truly getting young cost controlled top line talent that can change this franchise in my opinion.

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[Obvious Fabertism]

The Wild need a lot of help up and down their lineup. Sure our prospect pool is decent - but its full of middle six talent...

Kaprizov is going to demand a big payday and I simply don't feel like paying a 28 year old winger 13 million a year for 7/8 years is in the best interests of this club.

So - what is your teams best offer? Looking for young blue chip 1st line C's or draft picks. Can be Kaprizov plus for the right deal obviously, but we simply need to move on from the Foligno's/Hartmans/Freddy G's of the world taking up more than 4th line minutes if we are ever going to be anything but a 1st round exit.

I'm sure other Wild fans will come in telling me I'm wrong or out of my mind. Realistically though trading him is our best chance at truly getting young cost controlled top line talent that can change this franchise in my opinion.

You’re wrong or out of your mind!

Have it and I will just put this on ignore. I don’t think anything productive would come from it personally, you don’t theoretically trade a player like that and have two happy parties.

 

[Super Hans]

First off, I don't think offloading the most talented player in franchise history is in the best interests of the club. Secondly, you don't move on from the Folignos/Hartmans/Freddy G's by giving them 4 year contract extensions.

 

[TBF1972]

the wild are hand-cuffed with the buyout penalties for parise and suter for two more seasons. so far they have performed high above (my) expectations with nearly 15m of dead cap. if guerin has a competitive roster again this season i would stick it out with kaprizov. his last contract year the wild finally have opportunities to really invest into their roster.

 

[Jamaican Patty]

Caufield + Beck + 1st round pick

 

[roon]

First off, I don't think offloading the most talented player in franchise history is in the best interests of the club. Secondly, you don't move on from the Folignos/Hartmans/Freddy G's by giving them 4 year contract extensions.

Well - Only Foligno got a 4 year deal. Hartman expires this year and freddy is signed for 2.1 mil and can play 3rd/4th line minutes for that money.

What good is having the most talented player in franchise history if you cant surround him with enough talent to get the job done?

Lets say we have 20 million in Cap space after the buyouts drop off and we get rid of zucc/hartman. Kap will be asking for atleast 4-5 mil of that space in addition to what he makes now. You have 16 million to go out and get a 1C in FA where you will overpay. You also have Faber and Wallstedt deals to think about etc.

My fear is that we get out of "Cap Hell" and we do the exact same thing we have always done - run a mediocre lineup, get bounced in the first round and draft around 20-24 where we can hope to get another middle six potential forward.

You’re wrong or out of your mind!

Have it and I will just put this on ignore. I don’t think anything productive would come from it personally, you don’t theoretically trade a player like that and have two happy parties.

I'm not looking for anyone to be happy about it. People generally aren't happy to take medicine that tastes terrible even though its good for their long term health.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

It sounds ridiculous, but giving it some thought is not completely without merit, though it would be an extremely tough needle to thread.

 

[AKL]

I tried doing something like this a week or so back. Would be looking for a 1st+very good forward prospect+good young NHL ready player. He'd be a full two year rental at that point, so it shouldn't be outrageous if a team can fit him. We'd obviously be able to take short term cap dumps back.

 

[Neutrinos]

The problem is, most of the teams with cap space aren't close enough to contending to bring in a win-now player like Kaprizov, and most of the contending teams that would be interested won't have the cap space to take on his contract, high picks in the lottery, or the blue chip prospects needed to entice the Wild

So, to maximize the return, Minnesota would probably be best to retain 50% of his salary

 

[tfong]

Isn't Kap 26 years old? Got quite a few years left for him for effectiveness.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Isn't Kap 26 years old? Got quite a few years left for him for effectiveness.

For now.

I'd be looking at Detroit if they miss the playoffs again.

 

[AKL]

The problem is, most of the teams with cap space aren't close enough to contending to bring in a win-now player like Kaprizov, and most of the contending teams that would be interested won't have the cap space to take on his contract, high picks in the lottery, or the blue chip prospects needed to entice the Wild

So, to maximize the return, Minnesota would probably be best to retain 50% of his salary

For me, retention or taking back a short term cap dump wouldn't be an issue if the return is right in the first place.

 

[Gurglesons]

Why would there be an issue with paying a 28 year old with Kaprizov's talent a retirement contract?

Are you trying to become the old Wild again?

 

[AslanRH]

Probably around $100m will be traded for his services

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Why would there be an issue with paying a 28 year old with Kaprizov's talent a retirement contract?

Are you trying to become the old Wild again?

Handcuff yourself with no high end talent or handcuff yourself trying to keep it? In a perfect world, he signs a large but team "friendly" contract and they can afford to build around him. But for this excercise and AKL's from last week, pretend perfect world isn't an option.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Flyers send Couturier Sanheim and Farabee

 

[Gurglesons]

Handcuff yourself with no high end talent or handcuff yourself trying to keep it? In a perfect world, he signs a large but team "friendly" contract and they can afford to build around him. But for this excercise and AKL's from last week, pretend perfect world isn't an option.

If you can keep Kaprizov, you do it. Why would you rather have two great players versus one elite player?

Who wins championships without Kaprizov level talent?

 

[roon]

Why would there be an issue with paying a 28 year old with Kaprizov's talent a retirement contract?

Are you trying to become the old Wild again?

Exactly the opposite - trying to do something the Wild have never done. Build through the draft - get young and talented.

If you can keep Kaprizov, you do it. Why would you rather have two great players versus one elite player?

Who wins championships without Kaprizov level talent?

Las Vegas just won a cup without anyone on Kaprizov's level.

 

[Sota Popinski]

The Wild need a lot of help up and down their lineup. Sure our prospect pool is decent - but its full of middle six talent...

Kaprizov is going to demand a big payday and I simply don't feel like paying a 28 year old winger 13 million a year for 7/8 years is in the best interests of this club.

So - what is your teams best offer? Looking for young blue chip 1st line C's or draft picks. Can be Kaprizov plus for the right deal obviously, but we simply need to move on from the Foligno's/Hartmans/Freddy G's of the world taking up more than 4th line minutes if we are ever going to be anything but a 1st round exit.

I'm sure other Wild fans will come in telling me I'm wrong or out of my mind. Realistically though trading him is our best chance at truly getting young cost controlled top line talent that can change this franchise in my opinion.

Name a young, cost controlled 1C that someone would move for kaprizov

 

[Gurglesons]

Las Vegas just won a cup without anyone on Kaprizov's level.

 

[Djp]

Name a young, cost controlled 1C that someone would move for kaprizov

That’s the crux of the proble,m.

no team is trading a layer who is younger and a top line center for a player who can walk in 2 years

this is rental price return of a 1st+ 2 decent prospects/ picks but not giving it a top 13 draft pick 22 or under unless its a player like Laf

 

[roon]

Name a young, cost controlled 1C that someone would move for kaprizov

I would think you could pry Cozens out of Buffalo for Kaprizov. He is projecting to be a 1C signed long term.

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Kaprizov will skate circles around Jack. Eichel does well when there are other weapons on the ice to take the focus off him. Kaprizov does well despite being the only weapon on the ice.

 

[57special]

So, get rid of elite talent for potentially elite talent? Hmmm....

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Why would there be an issue with paying a 28 year old with Kaprizov's talent a retirement contract?

Are you trying to become the old Wild again?

Yea my question as well.

Kaprisov at 28 paying him till 35/36 is a no Brainerd if he wants to sign. Talent like that barely hits FA.

 

[ref19]

I would think you could pry Cozens out of Buffalo for Kaprizov. He is projecting to be a 1C signed long term.



Kaprizov will skate circles around Jack. Eichel does well when there are other weapons on the ice to take the focus off him. Kaprizov does well despite being the only weapon on the ice.

The Wild aren't trading Kaprizov for Dylan Cozens lol