Or...it could be the incentive for 2 new "stars"(Panarin and Dano) to stake their claims for their next megabucks contracts which we actually would have the cap space to handle if $10.5 mil a year went off the books..So maybe more OPPORTUNITY for featured play and star performance e from them...hardly a "death blow"...except for possibly the marketing g dept.and all their investment in elevating the Kane brand to hero status ammo gst the little kiddies ...who will now have to switch allegiances to the new stars...The Sun will rise...life will go on...so no death blow....just a new chapter...IF it comes to that...
Kane might be in legal trouble in Buffalo (verifiable sources only, no hearsay)
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Or...it could be the incentive for 2 new "stars"(Panarin and Dano) to stake their claims for their next megabucks contracts which we actually would have the cap space to handle if $10.5 mil a year went off the books..So maybe more OPPORTUNITY for featured play and star performance e from them...hardly a "death blow"...except for possibly the marketing g dept.and all their investment in elevating the Kane brand to hero status ammo gst the little kiddies ...who will now have to switch allegiances to the new stars...The Sun will rise...life will go on...so no death blow....just a new chapter...IF it comes to that...
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impossible to know as we have no idea what additional info the hawks may have that has not been disclosed publicly.
we also dont know what the nhl knows or how they might possibly be involved in the situation.
and we dont know whether the cba really lets teams get out of guaranteed contracts over scandal because the mike richards saga is still up in the air with the nhlpa still having a chance to appeal the material breach voiding of his contract
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I hope it resolves ....one way or the other...before training camp.if it remains under investigation and no charges beyond the start of camp ...then we have a mess with a dark cloud dogging Kane during camp and the pre-season games...A poisonous atmosphere swirling around Kane would really hurt the team as it prepares to open the season...so it needs to be resolved as guilt or Innocence before it can effect the dressing room..
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I have a serious question about this (Not that I have or plan on libeling Kane)
Whis is considered libelous?
We do realize that public figures are held to completely different libel rules than us normal people. Like, you have to prove there was malicious intent to libel a public figure.
I mean, the fact that allegations already have been made against Kane, it's pretty hard to libel him in this scenario.
This is why a Kane suspension might just be the best thing for the rest of the team if nothing is resolved by then...having him around the team while this circus is going on would be a huge distraction. If his cap hit still remains, however, the Hawks are screwed this season.
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As much as we are up in arms over this, you have to feel for the mods. This is supposed to be the slow time during the year!
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Score is reporting that Kane's criminal attorney that represented him prior was out with him Saturday night. Interesting. I think his agent was reported prior.
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if he is suspended for a long period of time theyll probably treat his cap hit like ltir a la voynov was eventually
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I don't mind that Kane is known for being a party animal (in fact, that is one thing I like about his persona) but why does he get so much spotlight? If you think Toews doesn't party,drink,etc as hard as Kane; you're kidding yourself. However, Kane gets waaay too much publicity.
Kane brings the spotlight on himself...and I'm fairly certain Toews doesn't party as hard or as frequently as Kane does.
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Kane isn't a victim of the media. He's brought all this trouble on himself.
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Yes, but Toews also doesn't slug cab drivers or, potentially, rape women.
This is no one's fault but Kane's.
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In its simplest form, person A rapes person B, and person B accuses person A of rape, often by going to the police. It can get more complex than that, but others can chime in if they want.
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This is exactly it, and because of what happened earlier in the his career the spotlight is on him even more.
One of the perks of being a pro athlete or celebrity or the like is getting to party and live it up and do those things. Pro athletes are known boozehounds, especially when they're younger. Kane is far from the only Blackhawk who has turned it up a notch over the past years....the others are just smart about it and don't put themselves in situations publicly like Kane has. There's a way to do things and a way not to. Many of his young teammates were tying one on plenty around the time of the Madison stuff and all of that, and they all managed to steer clear of the attention.
There's also a case to be made that some people just handle liquor and being intoxicated better than others. Kane is a terrible drunk and doesn't handle it well. There is no debating that at this point, and it's something he and the organization need to take a hard look at regardless of what happens with this rape accusation.
You just don't know. It appears that way, but I've been lucky enough to have a job where I got to spend a significant of time around college/professional athletes.
One thing I'm amazed at is the general population hasn't figured that we don't know who any of these guys are. Any of them. We know how they play a sport. We listen to them answer question from media members in an extremely calculated manner (99% of the time) filled with cliches. Sometimes we see them out in public for a brief encounter. Sometimes they sign hats or jerseys for kids.
That's it. Want to know what that tells you about what a person really is like? Nothing.
I mean you can pick up little things from watching videos of their interviews. Andrew Shaw is obviously really outgoing and likes to talk. Still doesn't tell me who he is as a person. If he's honest. If he's selfish. Who knows?
One thing I hope is that our fanbase doesn't become like the Penn State fanbase. Their constant defense of their athletic department and JoPa was disgusting. I don't know what happened with Patrick Kane and his accuser. This is probably going to get worse before it gets better. Most of the main board probably is going to assume he's guilty. They are going to make jokes. I hope we as a collective fanbase let them without getting angry.
Because defending somebody without knowing any facts is just blind fandom. It's pretending you know Patrick Kane, when, truthfully ... you don't.
We all hope he didn't do anything wrong.
FYI: The 'you' in this entire post is meant in general and not pointed at any individual.
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