Speculation: Kaliyev trade...

[KingsOfCali25]

And where do they play Kaliyev...LWing? He's a Natural RWinger and he's going to play with Dubois,Kopitar or Danault?

Byfield....

Kempe-Byfield-Kaliyev
Turcotte-Kopitar-PLD
Moore-Danault-Fiala
XXX-Thomas-Lafreniere

 

[Steve Zissou]

Cernak for sure, he didn't HAVE to go anywhere, he was traded.....you can argue it was a shitty trade (it was) but he was used as an asset, to gain something.

Cernak requested a trade and wanted out of the organization.

 

[MonkeysUncle]

Cernak requested a trade and wanted out of the organization.

We have heard Mark Yannetti say multiple times the organization had big hand in screwing up relationship with Cernak, to the point of not being able to repair.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Cernak requested a trade and wanted out of the organization.

Yes, and he was still traded for an asset....was he not?

 

[Steve Zissou]

Yes, and he was still traded for an asset....was he not?

You asked to name someone.....who HAD to go elsewhere to succeed, did you not?

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

You asked to name someone.....who HAD to go elsewhere to succeed, did you not?

I did, in the context that LA wasted his development and gave him away.....context matters bud.

 

[Lt Dan]

Amadio had success in Toronto and Ottawa right?

No

And Brodz is a very serviceable 4th liner

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

No

And Brodz is a very serviceable 4th liner

Averages less than 20 games a season, this is the 1st season of 8 that he's played over 35 games....is it because he is very serviceable, or very cheap?

 

[lumbergh]

Laferriere played head and tails better than Kaliyev, not sure how we make that comparison to be honest, as far as everyone else you named, they have a past to dwell on,

You mention a double standard, but everyone knew Fiala and Danault would play out of it, PLD, I think they just kept expecting him too,

Thomas looked good once healthy...took him a while to get there and if he's not on the roster next year, you probably have a valid example, right there.

Vilardi played himself too the minors as well, let's not act like he didn't. He also played himself OUT of the minors, Kaliyev isn't doing that.

Kaliyev 0.294 points per game in 11:48 per game, Laferriere 0.283 points per game in 13:13 per game. Same age. Not sure what you mean by "heads and tails better".

Both of them sucked. Laferriere has the benefit of being a rookie, so rose colored glasses and all. Take them off and you'll see that Laferriere did not have a good season.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Kaliyev 0.294 points per game in 11:48 per game, Laferriere 0.283 points per game in 13:13 per game. Same age. Not sure what you mean by "heads and tails better".

Both of them sucked. Laferriere has the benefit of being a rookie, so rose colored glasses and all. Take them off and you'll see that Laferriere did not have a good season.

Well if you just measure the game on statistics...sure....both of them sucked....

Laferriere, had a perfectly fine rookie season....

 

[chris kontos]

next masterclass by blake:
kaliyev for kaapo kaako

blake is the biggest fish in the pacific ocean

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Again, if it were just Kaliyev, it would be easy to say maybe he didn't 'earn' it

but it's literally almost all of them, it's systematic. Kaliyev will go elsewhere and score 25 easy, book it.

 

[Lt Dan]

Again, if it were just Kaliyev, it would be easy to say maybe he didn't 'earn' it

but it's literally almost all of them, it's systematic. Kaliyev will go elsewhere and score 25 easy, book it.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Literally all of them then can't name any of them

Yep par for the course

 

[lumbergh]

Well if you just measure the game on statistics...sure....both of them sucked....

Laferriere, had a perfectly fine rookie season....

I've been on record the entire season calling out Laferriere for being ineffective as a top 9 forward, not just based on statistics. The Dubois-Laferriere line was a total black hole of production all season.

Laferriere had a perfectly fine season for a 4th line forward, except he played top 9 the whole season. Pretty similar numbers to your Michael Amadio or Nic Dowd at this point of their careers.

Anyway, back to Kaliyev.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

I've been on record the entire season calling out Laferriere for being ineffective as a top 9 forward, not just based on statistics. The Dubois-Laferriere line was a total black hole of production all season.

Laferriere had a perfectly fine season for a 4th line forward, except he played top 9 the whole season. Pretty similar numbers to your Michael Amadio or Nic Dowd at this point of their careers.

Anyway, back to Kaliyev.

Hence the if you only measure a season based on munbers. I don't, you seem to that's fine

 

[YP44]

These guys are gonna sign Toffoli and Amadio and trade Kaliyev and Spence

Pearson is on the market too

 

[FrozenKing18]

These guys are gonna sign Toffoli and Amadio and trade Kaliyev and Spence

Pearson is on the market too

This would be the most hilarious "Go back! We f***ed up!" move add in Martinez also. And that it will fit the whole Former Kings identity from Management all the way down to the ice.

 

[YP44]

This would be the most hilarious "Go back! We f***ed up!" move add in Martinez also. And that it will fit the whole Former Kings identity from Management all the way down to the ice.

Based on all the posts here we are screwed anyway so may as well have nostalgia. haha

 

[MonkeysUncle]

next masterclass by blake:
kaliyev for kaapo kaako

blake is the biggest fish in the pacific ocean

change of scenery for both players might work? Then start Kaapo on line with Kopi and move Qb to play with Pld. I doubt Rangers do because of where he was drafted

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

Someone said Kaliyev for Krebs...well I'd be OK with that except LA needs a right-shooting RWinger and a Physical LDman and numbero Uno Goalie and Peyton is none of those

 

[Lt Dan]

Literally all of them then can't name any of them

Yep par for the course

could you type this again in English?

 

[Lt Dan]

change of scenery for both players might work? Then start Kaapo on line with Kopi and move Qb to play with Pld. I doubt Rangers do because of where he was drafted

that might be a perfect case for conditional picks in case either player takes off

 

[kilowatt]

These guys are gonna sign Amadio

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

could you type this again in English?

Probably not, but let's try,

Post I was referring to, claims quite vigorously, that it's all of them, that the Kings have ruined, and they have left to find fortune and fame in all other 31 teams.....

Yet can't name a single goddamn player that is referring to.