Kobe Armstrong
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Tough. I remember he almost made the Sabres team as a 2nd rounder right out of camp and looked great, but he got injured in one of their preseason games and never looked as dominant
Player Discussion Kaiden Guhle
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Tough. I remember he almost made the Sabres team as a 2nd rounder right out of camp and looked great, but he got injured in one of their preseason games and never looked as dominant
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Better than Jackeye today? Come on now! Hutson would get eaten alive in the NHL right now and Jackeye's playing in all situations. Hutson's a good 2-3 years away.
I have high hopes for Hutson but my guard will always be up as so many small D have looked great at every level until they get to the NHL.
Habs Halifax
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Agreed. We all love Hutson's potential but lets face it, he's a wild card in our defensive prospect pool. Loads of skill/skating/intensity but we have to let the process play out.
* Looks great so far in the NCAA. Check
* Does he turn the needle in his age 18 WJC?
* How much stronger does he get for his age 19 NCAA season?
* How does he look against men who also skate well after he turns pro?
Remember how Norlinder was pumped? Brook? I would say Hutson has more of a it factor and is producing offense wherever he goes. It's OK to be excited cause he is giving reason for us to be excited. But lets not count our chickens before they hatch
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I’m talking strictly about their abilities, not talking where they are in their career now. Hutson’s IQ is off the charts, passing ability, vision, it’s already naturally better than Xhekaj. He would probably get pushed around in the NHL now, but you could still see how much more talented he is than Xhekaj if both were with the habs right now.
Anyway this is the Guhle thread lol and we’re agreeing on him
SlafySZN
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It’s not like i’m saying Hutson is better than some star NHL Dmen right now, we’re talking about Xhekaj…
Kudo Shinichi
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Not sure why Drouin is the one you guys are bringing up when Anderson and Dadonov are used and are far less competent than Drouin on the pp.
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It’s not like i’m saying Hutson is better than some star NHL Dmen right now, we’re talking about Xhekaj…
HabsKraut
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According to the official press release it's not due to injuries but for "personal reasons". He's supposedly already back in Edmonton.
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I think it might be because they're using Drouin on the point, which is really really really really (really) weird.
As for the other guys, it's not like we have depth to replace them... I mean we're using Armia FFS
Habs Halifax
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I know but he's not better than him today. Down the road perhaps. If you said he has higher potential, I'd agree.
Burrows must have watched that Sonnet commercial where Drouin blasts pucks (all way off the net, but anyway...).
Habs Halifax
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100%. I feel like Drouin is a target more than others. Fans can't help themselves on the Drouin attacks. Yeah, he is a disappointment but we already know that so no need to double down on it. Personally, I have no issues at all with Drouin on the 2nd PP unit. Based on the pieces we have to use at the moment.
We have a bunch of rookies trying to learn on the job and a bunch of guys we want to move on from but will be used until they are gone. Reality.
So yeah, Drouin on the PP is better than Anderson and Dadonov. Some fans will reply saying none of them should play PP. Sure, then what? Just let the kids play and if they drown, keep doing it? I don't think that is the best for development and I'm going to support MSL in what he is trying to do. He obviously sees things more than we do.
At the very least, Dadonov should be targeted just as much as Drouin. If fans want to play the target game
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But Xhekaj, has a powerful and precise wrist shot, that Guhle doesn't have, with all the difference in playing time between the two, Xhekaj still have 9 points and more important, 4 goals.I’m talking strictly about their abilities, not talking where they are in their career now. Hutson’s IQ is off the charts, passing ability, vision, it’s already naturally better than Xhekaj. He would probably get pushed around in the NHL now, but you could still see how much more talented he is than Xhekaj if both were with the habs right now.
Anyway this is the Guhle thread lol and we’re agreeing on him
Habs Halifax
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Burrows must have watched that Sonnet commercial where Drouin blasts pucks (all way off the net, but anyway...).
I'm not a huge Burrows supporter but If he had better options, he would use them. I think we are trying to rush our rookies faster than we should.
We have roster flaws that should get resolved over time.
Matthew McConaughay
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I would say, Xhekaj is closer to Weber than Guhle, and Guhle is closer to a Devon Toews type.
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Really? Maybe it has to do with the losing a top tier Stanley Cup winning defence man for Drouin or maybe it’s paying him 5.5 million a year for a total of 30+ million. You see Jo & his agent told us that’s what his hockey talent and effort was worth. The others you mention are challenging for other reasons & I’ve never suggested they should be on the PP. I simply think it’s time for #21 & #72 to get a chance on the man advantage.
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Kudo Shinichi
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A trade and signing made 6 years ago has nothing to do with the discussion on Drouin's current utilization.
Drouin and Guhle were both playing on the pp yesterday. If we want Xhekaj to play on the pp as well, it would make a lot more sense to remove any of Dadonov, Anderson, and Wideman than to remove Drouin.
BJCOLLINS
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Well I was kinda answering your question.
You seem to have an opinion of “oh well that’s so 6 years ago” and I’m telling you there is real disdain for Drouin out there. You may not believe that opinion but I can assure you it’s alive and part of it is salary, effort, asset value etc. Jo was never a good fit.
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The comparisons between Weber and Guhle never made sense from the GETgo..
Matthew McConaughay
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Yeah, Guhle is not physical enough, and even if he has a good size, isn't in the same league has Weber or Xhekaj.
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Habs Halifax
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I have R MacDonagh as a Guhle comparison. Big, strong, gritty, and chips in on offense here and there.
Below average top pairing guy but above average 2nd pairing guy.
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Habs Halifax
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MacDonagh had a few 40 pts seasons in his prime. People forget that and remember who he was in the last 4 seasons.
I don't think Guhle is a 50+ pts guy.
That's exactly what's going on. It's frustrations with a trade 6 years ago and dumping on a player over and over again. It's not necessary and his time is coming to an end. Let his NHL career die in piece is what I say
For as much as I dislike Drouin's blonders, he does have good puck distribution in some areas. But yeah, if you don't like his blonders, then that applies to many others. Fair is fair.
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Yeah, 40 points is pretty good, we will see what the future brings.
