Value of: Kaapo Kakko

[bernmeister]

There is zero chance they trade Panarin this season. This is the run. If he shits the bed again in the postseason, you might see them try to flip him in the offseason.

Since bread is in control that may be the case, he insists on staying now and relents later
HOWEV
like Trouba
he MIGHT take a deal now if close enuf to Gotham he/family like so much
i.e.
Isles or better still Jersey
NJ makes sense b'c Devils might be among those offering him max $ even if only 2-3 yrs not long term.
He goes there now, gets to kick tires, see if he wants to commit there longer term

too biz to do full 'splain now, but
Rs can eat huge $$$ on bread + trouba for only 2 yrs
take back cap dump(s)
get high end cheap Ds in return

 

[Oneiro]

Since bread is in control that may be the case, he insists on staying now and relents later
HOWEV
like Trouba
he MIGHT take a deal now if close enuf to Gotham he/family like so much
i.e.
Isles or better still Jersey
NJ makes sense b'c Devils might be among those offering him max $ even if only 2-3 yrs not long term.
He goes there now, gets to kick tires, see if he wants to commit there longer term

too biz to do full 'splain now, but
Rs can eat huge $$$ on bread + trouba for only 2 yrs
take back cap dump(s)
get high end cheap Ds in return

Zero use for Bread in NJ. And doesn't work cap-wise at all.

Not only because of Hughes, Bratt and Tatar, but we also have Gritsyuk coming. We have enough playmakers this year and going forward.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Pretty sure Kakko gets moved at the deadline for economic reasons. Even if he keeps improving (he’s been good so far this year) they can’t pay him with the contracts they are going to give Igor, Lafreniere and Miller.

They’ll either use him for their annual rent-a-winger (they should have floated him in a Guentzel package last season) or they can try to trade him for a Dman making like 3m or less (probably not getting ELC) that can help with replacing Trouba and Lindgren next season. Even if Mancini hits, there is going to be at least one open spot next season and Rangers have nothing internally to put there.

Does it make sense to take whatever low compensation we’ll get for a rental Kakko as opposed to keeping him through the season to help for the playoffs?

He may not be what we wanted him to be, but I don’t think having him in the lineup is making us worse. The team is all-in. Subtracting at all off the active roster doesn’t make sense.

 

[Savant]

Does it make sense to take whatever low compensation we’ll get for a rental Kakko as opposed to keeping him through the season to help for the playoffs?

He may not be what we wanted him to be, but I don’t think having him in the lineup is making us worse. The team is all-in. Subtracting at all off the active roster doesn’t make sense.

Well. The trick is to not take low compensation but obviously easier said than done. Team is all-in but that just means if they have to sacrifice him for an upgrade they are going to do it

 

[bernmeister]

Zero use for Bread in NJ. And doesn't work cap-wise at all.

Not only because of Hughes, Bratt and Tatar, but we also have Gritsyuk coming. We have enough playmakers this year and going forward.

I can make the cap work w/heavy retain which I would consider for only 2 short seasons

As to "zero use" appreciate yr 2 cents, but would like larger sample size of feedback
When he decides to shoot, he can be lethal, so is not only a playmaker

 

[mattihp]

I don't think so, even the Finns called him a "weaker" prospect.

Really? I think most of us were really high on him, even though we realised Hughes was better. Many of us legit thought we would have another goal scorer in the league due to his shot and corner work..

 

[elmaco]

Really? I think most of us were really high on him, even though we realised Hughes was better. Many of us legit thought we would have another goal scorer in the league due to his shot and corner work..

Can't remember any details but i thought the general vibe around him was very different from Laine for example.

 

[bernmeister]

Pretty sure Kakko gets moved at the deadline for economic reasons. Even if he keeps improving (he’s been good so far this year) they can’t pay him with the contracts they are going to give Igor, Lafreniere and Miller.

They’ll either use him for their annual rent-a-winger (they should have floated him in a Guentzel package last season) or they can try to trade him for a Dman making like 3m or less (probably not getting ELC) that can help with replacing Trouba and Lindgren next season. Even if Mancini hits, there is going to be at least one open spot next season and Rangers have nothing internally to put there.

no x 2

 

[KurtDangle]

Fabian Lysell for Kaapo Kakko

 

[RangersFan1994]

Fabian Lysell for Kaapo Kakko

Rather get a more physical player with top 9 potential.

 

[bernmeister]

Fabian Lysell for Kaapo Kakko

no

 

[Kegs]

What's your best offer for Kakko? Bear in mind that the Rangers can't take on salary.

A fifth round pick.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

LW Lukas Reichel

Clearly not fit for what Davidson/Richardson want in player and was drafted by Bowman not Davidson who inherited him as a prospect

 

[Unbiased Fan]

I feel like maybe Beecher or Laughton would be good targets in a Kakko deal

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Since he wouldn't cost much, I'd take him on the Habs and see how much he sucks

 

[TT1]

Since bread is in control that may be the case, he insists on staying now and relents later
HOWEV
like Trouba
he MIGHT take a deal now if close enuf to Gotham he/family like so much
i.e.
Isles or better still Jersey
NJ makes sense b'c Devils might be among those offering him max $ even if only 2-3 yrs not long term.
He goes there now, gets to kick tires, see if he wants to commit there longer term

too biz to do full 'splain now, but
Rs can eat huge $$$ on bread + trouba for only 2 yrs
take back cap dump(s)
get high end cheap Ds in return

 

[The don godfather]

I feel like maybe Beecher or Laughton would be good targets in a Kakko deal

No to Beecher hes found himself. The guy is carnage on that 4th line for bruins.

 

[VeteranPresence]

Nothing going again for this guy. Trending to be one of the worst top 2 picks in NHL history if this continues. Rangers should definitely look at moving him before his value is 0.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

No to Beecher hes found himself. The guy is carnage on that 4th line for bruins.

I agree he’s a useful player that’s built for playoffs and would help the rangers but if Kakko panned out in the top 6 the Bruins would look like geniuses. I think that’s a trade both teams should make.

I’d run

Zacha-Coyle-Pasta
Marchand-Lindholm-Kakko

 

[bernmeister]

whatev, KK is staying like I said, we ae not extending bread so he walks

Nothing going again for this guy. Trending to be one of the worst top 2 picks in NHL history if this continues. Rangers should definitely look at moving him before his value is 0.

no
yeah the puck not finding the net
BUT
he is playing otherwise solid game

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Nothing going again for this guy. Trending to be one of the worst top 2 picks in NHL history if this continues. Rangers should definitely look at moving him before his value is 0.

He’s already an established good third line winger. Those go for at least a second. His value won’t become 0.

 

[VeteranPresence]

He’s already an established good third line winger. Those go for at least a second. His value won’t become 0.

A 25 point pace is "good"?

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

A 25 point pace is "good"?

We're quite literally 3, yes THREE, games into the season.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

LW Lukas Reichel

Clearly not fit for what Davidson/Richardson want in player and was drafted by Bowman not Davidson who inherited him as a prospect

Blackhawks probably add a 4th or take back some salary or something but I'd like to see this deal get done.
Change of scenery for both players.

 

[Topcheese31]

A 25 point pace is "good"?

First time I see a projection on point after three game lol Huberdeau is on pace for 123 pts this season.