Player Discussion Kaapo Kakko

[duhmetreE]

Any wrist doctors and physical therapists specializing in wrists in the house?

I have phenomenal wrists. The best wrists you'd ever see. My wrist shot was one of the greatest.

 

[EdJovanovski]

It's his left wrist. His shot is bad for many reasons.... the left wrist isn't one of them

Uhh the left wrist is the most important one for a left shot that’s why typically people who shoot with their dominant hand on the bottom have harder shots, but people who have their dominant hand on top (which is recommended) have better hands. All the flex you’re putting into the shot comes from your left side, and the flick on a snapper is all left wrist

 

[duhmetreE]

Uhh the left wrist is the most important one for a left shot that’s why typically people who shoot with their dominant hand on the bottom have harder shots, but people who have their dominant hand on top (which is recommended) have better hands. All the flex you’re putting into the shot comes from your left side, and the flick on a snapper is all left wrist

I'm a lefty shot. All the snap/torque predominantly comes from my right hand/wrist

Maybe it's different in Vancouver

Still think it's mostly to do with his stick length. There's a 'goldy-lox' zone for torque/leverage in shooting. Too short and it gets awkward. Too long and it gets awkward. See Nash, Zucc and now Kakko.

 

[EdJovanovski]

I'm a lefty shot. All the snap/torque predominantly comes from my right hand/wrist

Maybe it's different in Vancouver

Still think it's mostly to do with his stick length. There's a 'goldy-lox' zone for torque/leverage in shooting. Too short and it gets awkward. Too long and it gets awkward. See Nash, Zucc and now Kakko.

I play the opposite way of most Vancouverites, most people here shoot with their dominant hand on bottom. (Righties shoot right) How does it come from your top hand? I don’t get how they even makes sense in terms of physics lol. Watch me shoot and tell me does it look like it’s coming from my top or bottom? LOL, and I think I have a pretty good shot but the snap comes from my bottom hand

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I’m in the White Rangers jersey

 

[duhmetreE]

I play the opposite way of most Vancouverites, most people here shoot with their dominant hand on bottom. (Righties shoot right) How does it come from your top hand? I don’t get how they even makes sense in terms of physics lol. Watch me shoot and tell me does it look like it’s coming from my top or bottom? LOL, and I think I have a pretty good shot but the snap comes from my bottom hand

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I’m in the White Rangers jersey

It's wrist shot. The torque comes from your top wrist, or at least it did with me. I don't see how you could torque anything with your left hand/wrist. I shoot lefty and I'm right hand dominant.

 

[will1066]

Presuming Kakko returns with some extra padding on the gloves to protect the wrist, would that affect the range of motion and his ability with his hands?

 

[will1066]

What about plasma or platelet infusion? Cryogenic treatment? Can those help?

 

[zlev]

have him bag a ton of blood and do transfusions before each playoff round like he's a tour de france rider

 

[Cmox]

I have phenomenal wrists. The best wrists you'd ever see. My wrist shot was one of the greatest.

Such many cases...

 

[gabevh3]

I play the opposite way of most Vancouverites, most people here shoot with their dominant hand on bottom. (Righties shoot right) How does it come from your top hand? I don’t get how they even makes sense in terms of physics lol. Watch me shoot and tell me does it look like it’s coming from my top or bottom? LOL, and I think I have a pretty good shot but the snap comes from my bottom hand

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I’m in the White Rangers jersey

What is that court?

 

[gabevh3]

I'm worried it's myocarditis/pericarditis after a booster shot. From warmups to week - to - week to operation? And no further word? Evil.

Wrist injury and that? Trade him lol this team is still cursed i see.

 

[LokiDog]

I played pretty decent hockey and my power is definitely generated by my bottom hand. The top hand and turning the wrists over generally dictates accuracy, while the top hand pulling back as the bottom drives forward creates elevation and propulsion, though I’m sure both hands play a role in both power and accuracy. But I’m certain my bottom hand generates the major share of the power. The torque isn’t so much from twisting the wrists but “loading” the shot by pushing down into the ice as you’re dragging the puck to it’s release point. That’s what generates the flex in the twig, not the weight of the puck. If you watch slow motion clips highlighting the form of a shot (see below) you’ll see that the stick begins to flex before contacting the puck. It’s also one of the main reasons sticks break on slapped and one timers. Hitting too much ice before the puck.



Regardless of individual shooting technique, keep in mind the bottom hand also is important in boardwork and being able to strong on the puck, win battles, etc. so if it’s his bottom hand that’s the problem, it’s a big problem. As it would be if it was the top. Because it’s a two handed sport.

 

[LokiDog]

Also since @EdJovanovski loves his ball hockey videos, here’s my 35 year old, haven’t played more than a handful of pick up games in years, dramatically out of hockey shape ass pretending to still have it.

God, I miss playing regularly. I need to get into a low level men’s league, get my legs back and then start playing up in an A or B division. Gonna need those skills sharp to teach junior here soon anyway.

 

[EdJovanovski]

What is that court?

Do you mean where is it or what’s it made out of? Lol it’s called either Mundy Park or Hickey Street Reservoir, idk some people call it one and some the other hahah. It’s just shitty pavement lacrosse box kinda thing. There are lots of them here. Other parts of Canada have nicer ones with dek tiles but none here. I have a bunch of dek tiles in my driveway to practise on though. The leagues I play in one is a tile rink and the other is in ice rinks when the ice comes out for spring/summer. Much nicer smooth pavement, barely any more wear on your stick than on ice. I play in some very competitive leagues with guys who played for team Canada and such, Jake Virtanen and his brother play there too.

 

[RickChartraw]

Kakko with a cast.

finally we know. get well KK.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Also since @EdJovanovski loves his ball hockey videos, here’s my 35 year old, haven’t played more than a handful of pick up games in years, dramatically out of hockey shape ass pretending to still have it.

Hahah your shot still has more zip on it than Kakko’s I really want to do an HFNYR hockey game meetup one day but my post on it didn’t get any traction lol. When I’m back playing I’ll get some footage of me on ice, I’ll try pulling off a Michigan my first game back. I’m pretty good at stick tricks. My knee is still bothering me but I hope I’m back soon, I’ll try a Michigan in ball hockey too. Absolutely impossible to do but I attempted it once at one of those hockey guy meetups and I actually managed to scoop the ball on my blade and manage to complete it but didn’t score lol everyone was like OHHHHHH. I’ll pull it off eventually

edit: just saw the pics you added, why number 24? Callahan? And are you right hand dominant and shoot right? I wear number 96

 

[LokiDog]

Hahah your shot still has more zip on it than Kakko’s I really want to do an HFNYR hockey game meetup one day but my post on it didn’t get any traction lol. When I’m back playing I’ll get some footage of me on ice, I’ll try pulling off a Michigan my first game back. I’m pretty good at stick tricks. My knee is still bothering me but I hope I’m back soon, I’ll try a Michigan in ball hockey too. Absolutely impossible to do but I attempted it once at one of those hockey guy meetups and I actually managed to scoop the ball on my blade and manage to complete it but didn’t score lol everyone was like OHHHHHH. I’ll pull it off eventually

You could do a Michigan with a ball with zero pressure, but with limited time it’s harder since the ball rolls. It’s actually really easy to do “lacrosse” tricks with the puck once you learn to scoop it. Getting it to stick to your blade coming off the ice is the hardest part to master, getting it to stay once it’s there is pretty easy. I’m sure you know what I mean. My wrist shot used to be unreal. Genuinely, it was undoubtedly better than some guys in the show. Everything else, save maybe my top gear, plus being 5’10… good-to-average for college, at best. Now I feel like it’s a muffin, even though it still has a little pep. I’m sure I could get the shot back to par, but I doubt I’ll ever have the legs I had in my 20s. I need to get back on the ice. Should really make it a priority.

@EdJovanovski Yes to both (right dominant bottom). I actually wore 96 for a while when I was really young, then 21 until college (Forsberg) but it was taken so I switched to 24 for Callahan. Then I transferred schools and 24 was taken so I wore 74 because it looked like 24 when I tucked it, and that kind of became my favorite just for being more unique. But I use 24 or 74 for everything now.

 

[RickChartraw]

@Loki Dog 74 get on the ice and get junior going. he will thank you.

 

[EdJovanovski]

You could do a Michigan with a ball with zero pressure, but with limited time it’s harder since the ball rolls. It’s actually really easy to do “lacrosse” tricks with the puck once you learn to scoop it. Getting it to stick to your blade coming off the ice is the hardest part to master, getting it to stay once it’s there is pretty easy. I’m sure you know what I mean. My wrist shot used to be unreal. Genuinely, it was undoubtedly better than some guys in the show. Everything else, save maybe my top gear, plus being 5’10… good-to-average for college, at best. Now I feel like it’s a muffin, even though it still has a little pep. I’m sure I could get the shot back to par, but I doubt I’ll ever have the legs I had in my 20s. I need to get back on the ice. Should really make it a priority.

@EdJovanovski Yes to both (right dominant bottom). I actually wore 96 for a while when I was really young, then 21 until college (Forsberg) but it was taken so I switched to 24 for Callahan. Then I transferred schools and 24 was taken so I wore 74 because it looked like 24 when I tucked it, and that kind of became my favorite just for being more unique. But I use 24 or 74 for everything now.

It’s honestly way easier than it looks, it’s so ridiculously hard in NHL 22. I’ve never even seen someone attempt it while playing online because it’s so difficult. I find it easiest to do on my backhand, sometimes on my forehand I’ll screw up and not get it on my stick but on my backhand I do practically every time, very easy. Even doing it one handed on your backhand isn’t very difficult and i do it a lot in warmups.

and oooh 74, honoring Kravtsov I see why so you shoot right? Most people say the “proper” way is dominant hand on top but obviously not everyone adheres to that rule. Most Canadians do except BC for some reason, most people here shoot right. My dad & uncle both shot right but I ended up shooting left lol, my first stick they got me was a righty stick and I’d just hold left handed and had a crazy backhand.

 

[JohnC]

Kaapo Kakko: *breaks wrist*

HFNYR: I suspect he has sustained a major cardiac event and has merely weeks, if not days, left to live

 

[LokiDog]

It’s honestly way easier than it looks, it’s so ridiculously hard in NHL 22. I’ve never even seen someone attempt it while playing online because it’s so difficult. I find it easiest to do on my backhand, sometimes on my forehand I’ll screw up and not get it on my stick but on my backhand I do practically every time, very easy. Even doing it one handed on your backhand isn’t very difficult and i do it a lot in warmups.

and oooh 74, honoring Kravtsov I see

I had 74 when Krav was like… 7 years old lol

I find it easier to pick up the puck with a softer flex as well. I’m not good enough at NHL to try it, but I can tell it’s way harder than executing it in real life. Even going between the legs is funky, but that’s also because the skill stick, while legit, is super limited compared to real puck handling. I grew up next door to David Volek and he’d cut his lefty sticks for me, but I just naturally shot right starting at 3 years old, so he got me someone from the room’s right hand stick one day lol

I wish I hadn’t fallen off with playing the last few years. Until I was about 30 I played anywhere from 2-5x a week, but since my second deployment, being in a part of TX with no rinks, leaving the military and moving to NJ, then to Dallas, then to Idaho, now finally back to NY. Somewhere along the way it dropped to 2-5x a year. Now that I’m in NY again there’s no excuses not to get back out there.


Okay… back to KK talk.

 

[SA16]

finally we know. get well KK.

Great job by Shapiro. Now all the others teams are going to be constantly hacking at his wrists trying to knock him out of games.

 

[will1066]

Kaapo Kakko: *breaks wrist*

HFNYR: I suspect he has sustained a major cardiac event and has merely weeks, if not days, left to live

HFNYR: I heard that if you have celiac disease, you're more prone to wrist injuries. Why can't this damn organization ever get it right?

 

[will1066]

Hahah your shot still has more zip on it than Kakko’s I really want to do an HFNYR hockey game meetup one day but my post on it didn’t get any traction lol. When I’m back playing I’ll get some footage of me on ice, I’ll try pulling off a Michigan my first game back. I’m pretty good at stick tricks. My knee is still bothering me but I hope I’m back soon, I’ll try a Michigan in ball hockey too. Absolutely impossible to do but I attempted it once at one of those hockey guy meetups and I actually managed to scoop the ball on my blade and manage to complete it but didn’t score lol everyone was like OHHHHHH. I’ll pull it off eventually

edit: just saw the pics you added, why number 24? Callahan? And are you right hand dominant and shoot right? I wear number 96

And expose the people who always use the "have you played?" argument? No thanks, they say.

 

[gabevh3]

Do you mean where is it or what’s it made out of? Lol it’s called either Mundy Park or Hickey Street Reservoir, idk some people call it one and some the other hahah. It’s just shitty pavement lacrosse box kinda thing. There are lots of them here. Other parts of Canada have nicer ones with dek tiles but none here. I have a bunch of dek tiles in my driveway to practise on though. The leagues I play in one is a tile rink and the other is in ice rinks when the ice comes out for spring/summer. Much nicer smooth pavement, barely any more wear on your stick than on ice. I play in some very competitive leagues with guys who played for team Canada and such, Jake Virtanen and his brother play there too.

That's cool.. like a hockey court lol
Where is here?