Player Discussion Kaapo Kakko

[bleedblue94]

Strome should from this day forward be playing with Kakko (when he returns) and Lafreniere almost exclusively.

If Strome can get those kids producing he trebles his value to this organization.

ad the lineup starts to make some sense

 

[Kharon]

Kakkos next year contract is going to be interesting. Because lack of points he should be cheap, but he could be interesting offer sheet target, like in case Kotkaniemi.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Kakkos next year contract is going to be interesting. Because lack of points he should be cheap, but he could be interesting offer sheet target, like in case Kotkaniemi.

No it wont. Kaako's contract being cheap due to low production, means also less salary in the offer sheet, which means a 2nd rd pick possibly.

Kotka returned a 1st and 3rd because he's got an AVV of 6.1m!!!

I hated the reactionary crowd before all this Kaapo trade talk, now I'm just about to lose my shit.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

No it wont. Kaako's contract being cheap due to low production, means also less salary in the offer sheet, which means a 2nd rd pick possibly.

Kotka returned a 1st and 3rd because he's got an AVV of 6.1m!!!

I hated the reactionary crowd before all this Kaapo trade talk, now I'm just about to lose my shit.

Let other teams do the negotiating for us.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Let other teams do the negotiating for us.

Meh, I'd rather go the safe route and sign him before he hits RFA-status.

Seems to me, we would overpay to keep him, if we let other teams make offers.

 

[Kharon]

No it wont. Kaako's contract being cheap due to low production, means also less salary in the offer sheet, which means a 2nd rd pick possib

Yes, But at this point Kakko is not worth 4,1m, but hes already playing well and has high potential. So Rangers might have to pay him 4,1m, because some other team might want to offer that, if they only need to give 2. round pick to Rangers.

 

[Synergy27]

Yes, But at this point Kakko is not worth 4,1m, but hes already playing well and has high potential. So Rangers might have to pay him 4,1m, because some other team might want to offer that, if they only need to give 2. round pick to Rangers.

It’s be a smart move for a team like the Devils to make. We can’t assume that he’s coming cheap just because he sucks, which you know, sucks.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Meh, I'd rather go the safe route and sign him before he hits RFA-status.

Seems to me, we would overpay to keep him, if we let other teams make offers.

Sorry, I didn't mean we should do this. I meant if he signs an offer sheet, that would basically be other teams doing the negotiating for us.

I agree, sign him before he's RFA

 

[Kharon]

It’s be a smart move for a team like the Devils to make. We can’t assume that he’s coming cheap just because he sucks, which you know, sucks.

If you only look piints. But for some reason he has quite good advanced stats. So hes still useful, even without points.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Completely invisible out there

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

All jokes aside -

Kakko will have 24 days rest going into the B's game, if he suits up. Whatever it is, the shoulder or something else - gotta think thats enough time to heal up.

Gallant said they will have 4 practices after a week off here. Thats good for him. Gotta think that if he plays, he should be recharged and raring to go.

Really hoping that's the case. All I want is to see the Kakko we saw earlier in the year. Would love to keep Laf with Mika and see Kakko back with Bread and Strome

 

[will1066]

All jokes aside -

Kakko will have 24 days rest going into the B's game, if he suits up. Whatever it is, the shoulder or something else - gotta think thats enough time to heal up.

Gallant said they will have 4 practices after a week off here. Thats good for him. Gotta think that if he plays, he should be recharged and raring to go.

Really hoping that's the case. All I want is to see the Kakko we saw earlier in the year. Would love to keep Laf with Mika and see Kakko back with Bread and Strome

I agree that he should go back to Panarin and Strome, as Laf is showing some life with Zib and Kreider. But with the long layoff it is possible that Gallant will tinker with line combos some more.

 

[duhmetreE]

All jokes aside -

Kakko will have 24 days rest going into the B's game, if he suits up. Whatever it is, the shoulder or something else - gotta think thats enough time to heal up.

Gallant said they will have 4 practices after a week off here. Thats good for him. Gotta think that if he plays, he should be recharged and raring to go.

Really hoping that's the case. All I want is to see the Kakko we saw earlier in the year. Would love to keep Laf with Mika and see Kakko back with Bread and Strome

He needs to be much better. He needs to be the guy dominating the puck.

I honestly think he may be best suited n a 3rd line checking role while leading that line offensively.

 

[Ruggs225]

Has there been any update to his injury? I dont even know what the injury is

 

[Paul Padovano]

Teams would be dumb not to extend to Kakko a lucrative offer sheet, especially knowing the Rangers won't have a lot in cap space to deal with. I really don't see how Strome can be extended either. They have nearly 11 mil, or something like that in cap room at year's end??

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

He needs to be much better. He needs to be the guy dominating the puck.

I honestly think he may be best suited n a 3rd line checking role while leading that line offensively.

Sometimes I feel that way and sometimes I dont.

I mean I get it, and I agree with you - He kinda needs to be "the man" on his line. He seems to thrive in that environment. Maybe for now or at certain times he could use some time there, a little more sheltered playing against lower D pairs.

But it would also be doing him a disservice, not giving him top minutes and with more skilled players like Panarin. He needs to learn how to be "the man" no matter who he plays with and its still too early to give up on him being a regular top 6 player.

We have seen him play that way in the top 6. For quite a while he was building nicely even without the points, earlier in the year.

No doubt he needs to be much better though. Im hoping it was the nagging injury that dumped his confidence and not something else.

 

[brakeyawself]

No it wont. Kaako's contract being cheap due to low production, means also less salary in the offer sheet, which means a 2nd rd pick possibly.

Kotka returned a 1st and 3rd because he's got an AVV of 6.1m!!!

I hated the reactionary crowd before all this Kaapo trade talk, now I'm just about to lose my shit.

If we lost him for a 2nd, I'd be posting GM help wanted ads on craigslist.

 

[Savant]

No it wont. Kaako's contract being cheap due to low production, means also less salary in the offer sheet, which means a 2nd rd pick possibly.

Kotka returned a 1st and 3rd because he's got an AVV of 6.1m!!!

I hated the reactionary crowd before all this Kaapo trade talk, now I'm just about to lose my shit.

Just a reminder that Kotkaniemi had 20 points last season. AAV was 6.1 on a one year deal because they had to make it high enough that Montreal wouldn’t want to match. No one, including Carolina was giving Kotkaniemi 6.1m multiple years.

Maybe another team does the negotiating for the Rangers, but I’m not matching a deal that doesn’t make economic sense.

 

[brakeyawself]

Just a reminder that Kotkaniemi had 20 points last season. AAV was 6.1 on a one year deal because they had to make it high enough that Montreal wouldn’t want to match. No one, including Carolina was giving Kotkaniemi 6.1m multiple years.

Maybe another team does the negotiating for the Rangers, but I’m not matching a deal that doesn’t make economic sense.

I really don't see teams mimicking the Canes move for a non center. As good as Kakko has looked in non-offensive areas, he's still a winger and I think that makes a significant difference.

With that said, if Kakko has any sense and maturity he will realize it's on him to progress and improve. It's not like he's been limited in opportunity.

I still think we bridge him. Unless he truly doesn't want to play for this team. But with the success we are having and the clear opportunity in top 6 for a RW, that would be an odd move indeed on his part. Unless of course, the management does something like they did with Krav and alienates him.

 

[avgard]

yeasterday he coming like KINGSIZE bear with candy and happyface to joining in team and instantly delivering some awaited in what ever needed is for team. today they already feeling dumping him for anything that little a shining. not hearing anything talks about if lafresque could of gettet used as similiar pile. of course kakko from northern finland and as saying is people from there might shy silent away and not growing anything from this. alright. they let him here, they took him here. and they put him in corner and not lettet to grow and they not blobbing his confidence anything instead they not taking him seriouslt or anything. they just like sit and dump him...for anything... i dont know.....this whole thing stinks.

kakko. setting workerdress on and going solo at games. no more safeplaying. putting on MONSTERMODE . in team there many places where perverts a going on. at washington edmonton there mediocre german playing nonstop at PP and given empty NET striking time til NETTED etc etc. while at washington greyold player playing also this and like 30 min in game still. kakko. playing solo only way of coming up. remember, you from finland..no advanttage like coming easy

sir avgard hockeyprofessor

 

[Mikachu93]

yeasterday he coming like KINGSIZE bear with candy and happyface to joining in team and instantly delivering some awaited in what ever needed is for team. today they already feeling dumping him for anything that little a shining. not hearing anything talks about if lafresque could of gettet used as similiar pile. of course kakko from northern finland and as saying is people from there might shy silent away and not growing anything from this. alright. they let him here, they took him here. and they put him in corner and not lettet to grow and they not blobbing his confidence anything instead they not taking him seriouslt or anything. they just like sit and dump him...for anything... i dont know.....this whole thing stinks.

sir avgard hockeyprofessor

What?

 

[Synergy27]

My boss was blobbing my confidence the other day so I told him to get f***ed and now I work at Home Depot.

 

[Narcissus]

yeasterday he coming like KINGSIZE bear with candy and happyface to joining in team and instantly delivering some awaited in what ever needed is for team. today they already feeling dumping him for anything that little a shining. not hearing anything talks about if lafresque could of gettet used as similiar pile. of course kakko from northern finland and as saying is people from there might shy silent away and not growing anything from this. alright. they let him here, they took him here. and they put him in corner and not lettet to grow and they not blobbing his confidence anything instead they not taking him seriouslt or anything. they just like sit and dump him...for anything... i dont know.....this whole thing stinks.

kakko. setting workerdress on and going solo at games. no more safeplaying. putting on MONSTERMODE . in team there many places where perverts a going on. at washington edmonton there mediocre german playing nonstop at PP and given empty NET striking time til NETTED etc etc. while at washington greyold player playing also this and like 30 min in game still. kakko. playing solo only way of coming up. remember, you from finland..no advanttage like coming easy

sir avgard hockeyprofessor

wHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT LAURI PAJUNIEMI AND TARMO REUNANEN??

THANK YOU SIR PROFESSOR

 

[mas0764]

I really don't see teams mimicking the Canes move for a non center. As good as Kakko has looked in non-offensive areas, he's still a winger and I think that makes a significant difference.

With that said, if Kakko has any sense and maturity he will realize it's on him to progress and improve. It's not like he's been limited in opportunity.

I still think we bridge him. Unless he truly doesn't want to play for this team. But with the success we are having and the clear opportunity in top 6 for a RW, that would be an odd move indeed on his part. Unless of course, the management does something like they did with Krav and alienates him.

It's gonna be so awesome when we sign Strome to a contract extension (or even better, tie ourselves to JT Miller and send Chytil and Nils the other way to do so) and then Kakko gets stolen with a $5m offer sheet that we can't afford to match.

That's just gonna be awesome.

A five year f***ing rebuild and our team is Zibanejad, Kreider, Panarin, JT Miller, and Lafreniere.

 

[brakeyawself]

It's gonna be so awesome when we sign Strome to a contract extension (or even better, tie ourselves to JT Miller and send Chytil and Nils the other way to do so) and then Kakko gets stolen with a $5m offer sheet that we can't afford to match.

That's just gonna be awesome.

A five year f***ing rebuild and our team is Zibanejad, Kreider, Panarin, JT Miller, and Lafreniere.

Well, considering none of that has yet happened, I would hope there's still the possibility Drury isn't completely awful at his job.

Trading Miller in the first place, IMO, has always been a mistake. But that's old history at this point. However, if we could get Miller for Chytil and Nils, I honestly think that's a good price. All though there are other players I would rather try to acquire first. Chytil and Nils are both expendable. Schneider, Jones, Kakko, Laf, Othmann, Berard AND Kravtsov, IMO, are not expendable. Unfortunately we see how Drury helped alienate Kravstov though which still sucks. But Paj might end up becoming a very good player easing that debacle a bit and Korczac could still develop into a very good player. And Othmann, I think is going to be SO good. Didn't like the pick originally by Drury, but Othmann is having a huge season and he's a physical beast. If one of Kakko or Laf does fail, I think Othmann makes up for it. And Berard too could end up a top 6 forward. So we might even have to move more guys eventually that we thought we never would.

Anyway, there's still a lot to be optimistic about overall. While I am not SO optimistic in Laf and Kakko, I don't think moving them is a good idea. I would rather see them both bust completely than trade them away and have them blow up somewhere else and become studs.

Unfortunately though, we can't keep all our young guys, so I am pretty sure at least Nils, Krav, maybe Robertson and maybe Chytil will have to be moved at some point though. Which I think is totally fine.