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Amazing Kreiderman said:
Actually it's 47%

Kakko doesn't really have a favorite number. Sure, he could go with 24, but it's not necessarily a given he'll "fight" for it.
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How about the last year since he turned pro? Are we closer to 90%? I didnt say he would fight for it. They will likely just ask him
 
Watch Kakko select #34 once the season starts.
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The Crypto Guy said:
This 15 minute highlight reel was posted in another thread, I cant find it now so i'm sorry cant give the poster credit but WOW...this is just 15 minutes of highlights from last season in the Liiga, all his goals and assists. He's literally a highlight real machine.

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I love how he doesn't give up on plays and creates 2nd and 3rd chances. 1:50 is just one example of this. October, hurry up already.

He's got the confidence of a scorer AND he creates all sorts of space for his teammates and distributes the puck well. I hope he'll be able to continue with that balance in the NHL.

If 24 is unavailable, how about 68? :D
 
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Despite the Rangers having been relatively successful the past decade or so they've never had to go through an RFA negotiation with a budding superstar. After seeing the RFA situations now with Marner, Laine, etc. I realized the Rangers have never had to walk that path before, unlike teams like Toronto, Edmonton, Chicago, and others. Our RFA negotiations have only been with mid-tier players like Stepan, Kreider, etc.

Is it ludicrous to expect Matthews type production from Kakko? I don't think so. Matthews has scored 69, 63, and 73 since he's been in the NHL.

I know I'm getting way ahead of everything but just looking at the way RFA deals are trending, the fact the Rangers have a lot of money coming off the books in the next few seasons and a possible salary cap increase and I think Kakko has the potential to score an absolutely massive deal before he ever gets to UFA. I hope the Rangers will be ready when that time comes.
 
Lias Andersson said:
Despite the Rangers having been relatively successful the past decade or so they've never had to go through an RFA negotiation with a budding superstar. After seeing the RFA situations now with Marner, Laine, etc. I realized the Rangers have never had to walk that path before, unlike teams like Toronto, Edmonton, Chicago, and others. Our RFA negotiations have only been with mid-tier players like Stepan, Kreider, etc.

Is it ludicrous to expect Matthews type production from Kakko? I don't think so. Matthews has scored 69, 63, and 73 since he's been in the NHL.

I know I'm getting way ahead of everything but just looking at the way RFA deals are trending, the fact the Rangers have a lot of money coming off the books in the next few seasons and a possible salary cap increase and I think Kakko has the potential to score an absolutely massive deal before he ever gets to UFA. I hope the Rangers will be ready when that time comes.
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While the question is entirely valid because it is a bridge we’ll likely have to cross in a few years, Matthews scores 40 goals as a rookie and since then has had 63 points in 62 games and 73 points in 69 games. He has been on pace to easily hit 40 goals in both of his injury shortened seasons with 34 in 63 and 37 in 69 and has 205 points in 212 games. If 3 years from now Kaako has had three (pro-rated) 40 goal seasons and is a point per game player, I’m okay with that being our next “problem”.
 
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Lias Andersson said:
Despite the Rangers having been relatively successful the past decade or so they've never had to go through an RFA negotiation with a budding superstar. After seeing the RFA situations now with Marner, Laine, etc. I realized the Rangers have never had to walk that path before, unlike teams like Toronto, Edmonton, Chicago, and others. Our RFA negotiations have only been with mid-tier players like Stepan, Kreider, etc.

Is it ludicrous to expect Matthews type production from Kakko? I don't think so. Matthews has scored 69, 63, and 73 since he's been in the NHL.

I know I'm getting way ahead of everything but just looking at the way RFA deals are trending, the fact the Rangers have a lot of money coming off the books in the next few seasons and a possible salary cap increase and I think Kakko has the potential to score an absolutely massive deal before he ever gets to UFA. I hope the Rangers will be ready when that time comes.
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I don't think so either. I mean everyone saw how he played at the @Worlds, how he excelled against NHL players in particular and that run for the money he gave for good old Suter was just something else. It's quite possible he comes out of the gates guns blazing, but it's as much possible that he needs more time to adjust to smaller rinks (unlike NA prospects who've played with less space their entire short careers). If Kakko doesn't have a huge rookie year, then he'll probably explode at the sophomore season.

The NYR better have some cap space ready when he (and Kratsov) come out of the ELC. This year will set the benchmark that will be looked upon three years from today and I believe a lot of RFAs will be handed insane amounts of dollars. Just imagine what Rantanen will make just for instance, whom was clearly inferior player at the same age. Probably give or take 10 million per year if he's not taking one for the team.

As far as his number goes, I fully expect him to get the #24. Everything he's accomplished the last past two seasons that include the gold winning teams at both WJC and the men's World Championships to his very season in the TPS and beyond. It's very rare for the top picks having to give away their number so I would expect they'd find a way to let him keep it. Not the end of the world if it doesn't happen but maybe it would be a bit disappointing if it didn't.

Damn it's going to be exciting to see how much he's improved since last season once he's finally skating @ MSG. Kids at this age tend to improve so rabidly until their early 20s. We're abound to see faster and stronger El Kappo within just a month or so (haven't really checked the pre-season schedule) if not earlier. Just how much remains to be seen. But yeah, it's not out of the realms to have at least some expectations compared to some of the best drafted players of late.
 
aufheben said:
Well, for one thing, I don't want Arron Asham or Jody Shelley flashing through my mind every time Kakko scores. :laugh:

There were more too, maybe Haley or Powe, and some other guy we got from the Sharks.
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Dmitri Kalinin
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
I don't care what number he goes with. I just think it's sad some people would be upset if he doesn't go with no 24 because "It's such a beautiful number". How is a number beautiful? I don't get it.
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24 is even itself so you can divide by 2 (or even 4 or 6), is made up of two even numbers and even numbers are good, easier and quicker to count to, sounds epic.

45 is just gross, look at it. An even AND an odd number. Ugh. Can't divide by 2 so that's instantly one strike against. I guess dividing by 5 is ok, but we've established that even numbers are good and odd numbers are ugly. Dividing by 5 even gives you another odd number which again, is not good for anyone. Takes minimum 21 extra seconds to count to - strike two - and doesn't sound epic. So three strikes against 45, none against 24.

Easy win for 24.
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
I don't care what number he goes with. I just think it's sad some people would be upset if he doesn't go with no 24 because "It's such a beautiful number". How is a number beautiful? I don't get it.
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Form and function, hence typography. There are also associations specific to hockey, such as position, past players, etc., but the fundamentals come down to beauty as it relates to forms. But this is something that has been discussed for thousands of years so I think we can spare this thread. :laugh:

Subtle and/or unconscious stuff though, no one is ever actually upset about it. Unless we had like a Left Wing wear #1, then there'd probably be riots.
 
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I think Toronto screwed the pooch with Marner. They didn’t treat him like the player he is and are acting like he should take a “hometown discount” just because. They’re guilty of undervaluing him and getting themselves into a bad situation

I don’t think the rangers will have that issue with Kakko but maybe Kravtsov or something would be a comparable situation if we’re lucky. Hopefully the Rangers handle it better
 
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Levitate said:
I don’t think the rangers will have that issue with Kakko but maybe Kravtsov or something would be a comparable situation if we’re lucky. Hopefully the Rangers handle it better
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I'm certain we will. Curious as to how the still kinda green Toronto GM is being viewed by the players.
 
Overcast said:
24 is even itself so you can divide by 2 (or even 4 or 6), is made up of two even numbers and even numbers are good, easier and quicker to count to, sounds epic.

45 is just gross, look at it. An even AND an odd number. Ugh. Can't divide by 2 so that's instantly one strike against. I guess dividing by 5 is ok, but we've established that even numbers are good and odd numbers are ugly. Dividing by 5 even gives you another odd number which again, is not good for anyone. Takes minimum 21 extra seconds to count to - strike two - and doesn't sound epic. So three strikes against 45, none against 24.

Easy win for 24.
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Are you calling 45 a 2 while 24 an 8?
 
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