Player Discussion Kaapo Kakko: Part V

[Cag29]

Dach is a very good prospect. He’s got solid hands/vision and he’s a big boy. It wouldn’t surprise me if he has the better career offensively then Kakko.
I think the 2 main things with Kakko are his development and unrealistic expectations to some extent.
Kakko has come a long way in 2 years, but for a guy who was billed as NHL ready his draft year, he was a big let down.
With all the fan fare and analysis leading up to the draft and the kakko/Hughes debate, Dach kind of slipped under the radar a bit. I think he’s a better prospect then he gets credit for. Kudos to the hawks for realizing it and going off the board a bit.
As far as Hughes goes, just from watching him, Kakko will never be as dynamic offensively imo. You can tell the puck follows Hughes and the offensive flows thru his stick. He just has the better offensive instincts, hands, and vision imo.
Kakko is going to be a very very good Complete NHL wing. Basically a player every team would want in their to 6/9.
I don’t see the offensive output coming from Kakko that others see. He just doesn’t have that it factor with the puck on his stick. He’s got good hands and protects the puck well, I don’t want to say he’s more of a passenger offensively, because that’s not the right wording. But I guess for now I’ll say offensively, the game just doesn’t flow thru him. I think he’ll mainly be a 60-65 pt guy, few years floating in the low 70’s perhaps, but solid on all 200ft Of the ice.
I think it has a lot to do with speed. Not that kakko is slow per say, but so far, hughes/Dach do a better job at using their hands at full/high speed then kakko does currently. I think that’s the biggest difference on the offensive side.

KK May win the Selke one day.

 

[Inferno]

I think Hughes will end up being a significantly better offensive player...I think kakko will end up being a significantly better defensive player.

I think kakkos offense will end up being better than Hughes defense.

I'd still take Hughes...but it's really close.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

I’m not taking a jab at him I think he’s shown a lot of progress.

I’m taking a jab at the comment that Dach has more points because he played on line 1.

That excuse holds no water, since Kakko is also playing with an elite player and arguably the most talented line.

would you say that Panarin - Strome would probably be on par if not better then Kane -Hagel?

I see, i misunderstood you then.

 

[LOFIN]

I think Hughes will end up being a significantly better offensive player...I think kakko will end up being a significantly better defensive player.

I think kakkos offense will end up being better than Hughes defense.

I'd still take Hughes...but it's really close.

It's a pointless discussion because the Rangers were not in the position to choose anyway. Maybe Hughes will be better, maybe he won't. Not really a discussion worth having because the Devils were the ones who got to choose.

 

[Inferno]

It's a pointless discussion because the Rangers were not in the position to choose anyway. Maybe Hughes will be better, maybe he won't. Not really a discussion worth having because the Devils were the ones who got to choose.

Thanks...I didn't realize that we weren't in a position to draft Hughes when I made that comment.

 

[Gr8CornHolio]

I see, i misunderstood you then.

all good this is how all my relationships end!

 

[Kaako Kappo]

No PP time for Kakko in his return, huh? What a shitty timing for his injury...

 

[Kiekura]

It really looks like he has able to fix his skating. Kid looks like flying on ice with massive body.

I seriously hope he starts to get points for his confidence and reward him for playing good.

 

[Row I Goon]

I’m less concerned about the individual Kakko and more interested in the system within which he operates - today that system “clicked”. I’ll take the result.

 

[savebyrichter94]

You can see he’s feeling much more confident and that’s leading to his assertiveness all over the ice. His skating and conditioning are much improved as well as his strength and he seems empowered to play his game because of it. Tapping his stick to call for a pass from Panarin in front of the net last night stood out to me, he wants the puck!

 

[Kiekura]

You can see he’s feeling much more confident and that’s leading to his assertiveness all over the ice. His skating and conditioning are much improved as well as his strength and he seems empowered to play his game because of it. Tapping his stick to call for a pass from Panarin in front of the net last night stood out to me, he wants the puck!

I want more of that from Kakko and Laf. Stop bowing to your teams star players and wait for them to make play. You need to want that puck, make plays and become those star players. Future is for you to take it.

 

[avgard]

what a happening hera at kakko? 4 games no goal no ass. all times shitty oging on. indjury times, passivating times, playing no almost PP, playing safe? playing defens. i dont know i dont know feels worrysome. at other camps young guns makin to play liek 20 min in games with 1st line and having PPtime served also. but here at NY rangers being stopped as kakko.

they should as biggest young player as also big boddyed and strong from beginning be putted in mens rubberboots into stormwheater here, fighting getting used to be putting up point after point to scoreboards jumbotrones, not like to be stared and alone in small apartment with coolest new adidas overalls and stuff left with small amount of ice times and trust thinking hockeylife isnt what it was when arriving at big apple. im thinking this could be for boys with little talant from beginning arriving at here, but not for kakko. it will built him down and roulette his future as number one player to NHLmagazin covers. if he not putting points very soon my feeling is i personalty going to explode here and leaving this ship. why is very old oveckin playing nonstop PPs at washington ? he rallied by league towards 1000NHLgoals? im saying yes to this. i dont like this. some teams, players getting way too easy to do stuff here

sir avgard hockeyprofessor

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

He’s good.

 

[Synergy27]

You can see he’s feeling much more confident and that’s leading to his assertiveness all over the ice. His skating and conditioning are much improved as well as his strength and he seems empowered to play his game because of it. Tapping his stick to call for a pass from Panarin in front of the net last night stood out to me, he wants the puck!

The puck needs to start going in in order for that confidence, which I agree is of utmost importance, to be sustained. It feels like bad luck at this point but that excuse isn’t going to be valid for much longer. The kid looks great, no doubt, but he really needs to start burying some of these chances.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Playing well but not scoring so he can take league minimum on a bridge deal and we can keep the team together. What a guy.

 

[Jauffre]

what a happening hera at kakko? ...
sir avgard hockeyprofessor

 

[EdJovanovski]

Glad he didn’t miss a step returning from injury, looked great last night. He needs to start producing though

 

[haveandare]

Imo he’s been on another level this season. No points isn’t a great look considering we said the same stuff a lot of last season, but it’s also only been 4 games for him. He’s a lot more dynamic offensively than last year, he’ll get his points

 

[EdJovanovski]

Anyone know what exactly his injury was? Just said upper body and that it was from the awkward hit in MTL. Concussion? Shoulder?

 

[Chytilmania]

KK May win the Selke one day.

Unless Kravtsov finds a team soon.

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

Anyone know what exactly his injury was? Just said upper body and that it was from the awkward hit in MTL. Concussion? Shoulder?

Doubt it was concussion, he only missed a week. Would bet on shoulder based on watching the hit

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Anyone know what exactly his injury was? Just said upper body and that it was from the awkward hit in MTL. Concussion? Shoulder?

They didn't say but I'm still assuming it was a shoulder thing. Kakko confirmed it was on that play with Romanov where Romanov hit him and then Kakko went and hit him back a few seconds later. No head contact at all, just crunching type body checks so shoulder or possibly rib are the most likely.

 

[WojtekWolski86]

KK May win the Selke one day.

I think draft hype make it seem like Hughes will be McDavid but he looks like high end Scott Gomez (who had a 90 point year mind you).

Hughes can fly around the ice like Gomer and has great playmaker skills. His weakness is his muffin shot.

Kakko'a ceiling is Hossa/Rick Nash in his 2 way forward form. Can you really complain about a 30/35 guy that can put up a +20, dominate possession and be a lock down winger in his own end?

Hughes will bring people out of his seats but when the going gets tough a 2 way tank is more valuable.

 

[Harbour Dog]

Could be the shoulder, but I'd say it's more likely indigestion from the bucket of chicken he was scarfing between shifts.

 

[Gr8CornHolio]

No PP time for Kakko in his return, huh? What a shitty timing for his injury...

It’s interesting as well. I wonder if the fact Panarin is on the right he holds off shooting because he doesn’t have the best angle.

Seems that unit could really use a left handed shot. Wonder what moving Panarin to the left having Kakko or Laf on the right would do?

Move Zib to power play 2 add the one of those two not on pp1 to pp2 then there would be wouldn’t be as predictable