Value of: Jvr

[Magic Man]

I'd actually like to see a deal with ANA for Montour/Fowler and Stoner. Not sure how it would work but something like Montour/Fowler, Stoner, player/prospect/pick for JVR, Polak/Hunwick.

I like it.

Fowler + Stoner + 2017 2nd (Andersen trade) + Nattinen

for

JVR + Hunwick

The Ducks transfer their depth on D to LW with the swap of Fowler for JVR, which straight across is fair. The Leafs then help to solve the Ducks cap woes by swapping Stoner for Hunwick. Hunwick is a positive value asset with 1 year of term being exchanged for a negative value asset with 2 years of term. Given the Ducks need to do something the price is high, but it helps figure out their 2 largest issues.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

I think this is one big difference. Bobby Ryan was scoring 0.41 goals per game at the time of the trade. He had also actually scored 30 goals four seasons in a row. His best season was 35 goals. He also had a 0.80 PPG pace at that point.

JVR is scoring 0.30 goals per game. He scored 30 once, was on pace for 30 one other time , but that was it. His best season was 30 goals. JVR's PPG is 0.62.

It is a valid point that Ryan played for a better team. But he also very often got 2nd PP looks and played on the 2nd or 3rd line (RW behind Perry and Selanne). If he did get top line looks he had to do it out of position. JVR has been the best player getting the best opportunities for a while now.

JVR is a good player. But Ryan is not exactly a perfect comparable.

Another thing that moves them apart a bit (but in the other direction) is that Ryan's cap hit was 5.1 mil on a 64 mil cap, while JvR's is 4.25 mil on a 73 mil cap.

 

[dubplatepressure]

I like it.

Fowler + Stoner + 2017 2nd (Andersen trade) + Nattinen

for

JVR + Hunwick

The Ducks transfer their depth on D to LW with the swap of Fowler for JVR, which straight across is fair. The Leafs then help to solve the Ducks cap woes by swapping Stoner for Hunwick. Hunwick is a positive value asset with 1 year of term being exchanged for a negative value asset with 2 years of term. Given the Ducks need to do something the price is high, but it helps figure out their 2 largest issues.

Exactly.. I'd do this.

 

[Magic Man]

Exactly.. I'd do this.

It does kind of corner the market on a potential Trouba trade as well. The Leafs would have the ability to offer a trade based around the Jets choice of Fowler and Gardiner. The additional futures from taking Stoner, pays off the amount that would need to be paid in difference going from one of those dmen to Trouba.

 

[dubplatepressure]

It does kind of corner the market on a potential Trouba trade as well. The Leafs would have the ability to offer a trade based around the Jets choice of Fowler and Gardiner. The additional futures from taking Stoner, pays off the amount that would need to be paid in difference going from one of those dmen to Trouba.

I would in turn keep Fowler and trade Gardiner.