Kapanen eventually but not till next season at this stage with the injury he sustained
We can still cover for JVR though
Hyman Mathews Brown
Leivo Bozak Marner
Komorov Kadri Nylander
Martin Goat Soshnikov
JVR at the deadline
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Kapanen eventually but not till next season at this stage with the injury he sustained
We can still cover for JVR though
Hyman Mathews Brown
Leivo Bozak Marner
Komorov Kadri Nylander
Martin Goat Soshnikov
exactly, he is very easily covered sure its a downgrade offensively but a huge upgrade on team defence. ANd then adding kapanen too who is a very good 2wy player
The CyNick
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Leivo has impressed me so far. I'm just not convinced he's anything more than a 4th liner on a hot streak. That said, if he can play in front of the net, and long term you have Nylander centering him and Marner, I think that could work. If it does, then JVR becomes more easy to move.
The Caveman
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Even for you don't believe in Leivo we don't have a shortage of wingers to fill that hole as early as next season at the very latest anyway
that's the thing JVR really is not that great of a player at all, he is the type of player GM's fall over each other to trade for (hopefully) it can be replaced by any of our wing prospects not to match production but when that player is decent 2 way guy you are now talking huuuge upgrade on JVR
That's what we have in our favour. Many GM's & more so, coaches, are megalomaniacs that think they can fix a "broken" player.
"JVR's issue is the Leafs, we'll get him to play proper"
How about they both suck defensively?
If you only want to play in one zone your not "great" unless your generational
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LA seemed to have no problem paying a first rounder,prospect,+ for 1 playoff run of a declining Lucic or Sekera, surely now they'd have no trouble parting with 1st+Cernak for 2 playoff runs with JVR? Especially with all the scoring troubles they're having
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Jvr doesn't look good defensively like Kessel didn't. Clearly Kessel is no longer an issue in that dept right. Bozak is just not good defensively period. He is Smith who can get some points. Notice when goat goes on the 4th the line looks reborn? Its because goat is good and smith is bad. Just like Kadri is good and Bozak is bad or Grabo was good and Bozak was bad. The guy can not play C properly.
BlueBaron
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Hyman the #1 LW. That's special...you guys cannot see how awful that looks? Yes you have four names at LW but none of them are even Second liners.
Must be the worst LW group in the League.
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Dirty Dan
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Leafs are not trading JVR unless they are upgrading for a stud dman (OEL would be nice)
You think these guys are playing for next year? lol they busted their ***** all year to stay in this playoff position I would be PISSED if I was a player on that team and they sold
loser mentality..
You think these guys are playing for next year? lol they busted their ***** all year to stay in this playoff position I would be PISSED if I was a player on that team and they sold
loser mentality..
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You think Babcock is not going to play Hyman with Mathews?
He plays grinders with skills players that's his M.O
It always has been even in his Detroit days
JVR
He's sheltered even though he's a "veteran"
He wont/can't defend
He only turns up when he feels like it
He's going to get way more money than he's worth very soon
#1LW my ***
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7even
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I think he's a great player. He's a bonafide first line winger, and a top notch finisher. No he doesn't do anything other than score, but hockey's a goal scoring competition and it's easier to prevent goals than it is to score them. Guys that can play great offense while still playing great defense are guys like Patrice Bergeron and Anze Kopitar, real superstars. So idk what to say to that. JvR isn't a superstar. Yes. Accurate. It's true.
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Manson. Sure, he's only a second-pairing guy, but he brings the intangibles that are perfect for the playoffs. 25, he's more or less developed. I think JVR's contribution can be filled from within, whereas the contribution of a player like Manson is one that currently eludes us. Let Manson and Zaitsev fight it out to be Rielly's partner.
Rielly-Manson
Gardiner-Zaitsev
That's a very respectable top four that would buy MLSE time to develop Dermott and Neilson, or bring in replacements in other ways. I think that it could get us into the playoffs this season, actually. That would leave just Bozak as the temp top nine center until Nylander is ready.
BlueBaron
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It is possible Hyman stays with Matthews for the next few years but that is in no way a certainty.
He's really not sheltered and his D has improved significantly since Babcock's arrival. Your psychic prediction on his salary does not hold much weight.
Bottom line is LW is our weakest forward position and many want to make it weaker still. Remove JVR and you will be lucky to get 50 goals from all our L Wingers combined, less than Ovie get's himself.
You are never going to get an ideal line up where all the players are perfect but that seems lost on many here. Gutting our LW and making it the worst in the league for no particular reason makes 0 sense to me.
Mess
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Anaheim adding Pat Eaves from Dallas likely removes all hope a JVR and Ducks deal is likely now.
They seemed like the perfect trading partner on need for both teams.
They seemed like the perfect trading partner on need for both teams.
