Waived: Justin Holl

[FMichael]

Thank god we finally got rid of him. No idea why yzerman feels the need to give out bad contracts to mediocre to bad players just to do it. Guys like holl shouldn’t be getting 3 year contracts from us, ever. Hopefully this is a lesson for Stevie.

Unfortunately he was a better option for a bottom pair Dman than what we had at the time in GR…Sad, but true.

 

[Henkka]

Wtf

The organization actually believes Watson outplayed Kasper?

Watson outplayed Kasper to sit on the bench as 13th forward.

We want Kasper to play regularily.

Do we really have to see this same talk after 18 years of the same CBA and how GMs usually work.

 

[FMichael]

Holl treated like complete crap by the organization, never really got a chance

Not a big deal but I feel bad for him besides the money he’s getting

I was one that didn’t hate the signing since at the time he was a reasonable bottom pairing option…I don’t seem to recall anything good or bad about him

 

[1878rgw]

In a league with 34 or 36 teams players with the quality of him would still have a roster spot on one NHL team.

In the end he was needed to fill the roster as RD last year and at the time Petry was not available.

 

[Ulysses31]

leafs fans hated holl n had a chuckle when he got the deal he did

 

[Henkka]

leafs fans hated holl n had a chuckle when he got the deal he did

It was only his mistakes at the 2023 playoffs, which did create ultimate hate from Leafs fans. That fansbase is 100x more crazy finding for scapegoats, so it was understandable.

His regular season was pretty good and no one cared before that. Was playing only for 2M.

Holl did work pretty good for us with Chiarot, but after Chiarot was moved back with Seider, then Holl didn't work with anyone anymore.

No one will claim him from waivers, so Holl will still be there as our 8th defenceman. Used at an injury logjam, if something like that happens.

 

[Axel Sandy Pelikan]

I don't understand. I thought you had to trade a 2nd round pick in order to rid yourself of a bad contract?

They’re not rid of it.

 

[Squirrel in the Hole]

As the team improves he should be able to attract better free agents. As they’re crawling out of the basement you’re gonna a lot of get cast offs and reclamation projects.

Now that the wings barely missed the playoffs and the kids are improving hopefully the days of Holl Petry signings are behind us.

Holl was a swing and a miss. Petry is on his farewell tour this year and brings leadership and experience.

ALL NHL GM's take their best shot, and some signings don't work out as planned. Yzerman is one of the best GM's in the league, but he's not God.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

How bad do you have to be to be a RD with two years on your deal and no one wants you including the team that signed you? With no injury history. He isnt even old...I thought RD's are so coveted? His actual value should be around 1.1-1.6M AAV.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1842995255706341588

Thought this was funny

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Holl was a swing and a miss. Petry is on his farewell tour this year and brings leadership and experience.

ALL NHL GM's take their best shot, and some signings don't work out as planned. Yzerman is one of the best GM's in the league, but he's not God.

Agreed. I think yzermans feelings about Holl were revealed in part when he went out and got Petry.

 

[Frk It]

Agreed. I think yzermans feelings about Holl were revealed in part when he went out and got Petry.

How do you have this kind of disconnect between your pro scouts and GM?

 

[jaster]

How do you have this kind of disconnect between your pro scouts and GM?

What makes it a disconnect, as opposed to just a failure on the part of the pro scouts?

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

How do you have this kind of disconnect between your pro scouts and GM?

I don't think he hated Holl necessarily, just saw Petry as a cheap, low risk upgrade. Now he may be surprised how difficult it has been to move him on the trade market, but that is a different issue.

 

[norrisnick]

How do you have this kind of disconnect between your pro scouts and GM?

There is no disconnect. Pro scouts don't offer contracts. And it's not like July and early August does anything to change the opinion of a player. Holl was acquired to be a RD stop gap. Petry was unceremoniously dropped in our lap a month and a half later because Pittsburgh wanted to try the Karlsson experience. We did Hughes/Petry a favor. We weren't banging down Pitt/Montreal's door trying to acquire Petry.

It's retcon nonsense trying to argue we shopped for Petry because we didn't want Holl. And it was the infatuation with Ghost that kept Holl out of the lineup. Not Petry.