Value of: Justin Braun to the Leafs at the deadline
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Can't you spell his name? B-r-a-u-n.
Taytro
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I think it's on purpose because he secretly wants him to be a Boston Bruan.
BlueBaron
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I think the op is right in that we need depth but Dubas will set his sights higher to start. If he won't supplant anyone he could easily be redundant if we make a bigger add.
At this point it isn't quite clear if Dermott or Holl is our number 7. If we add a serious dman both are reserves if one doesn't go back and let's face it they fit our tight budget.
So I'm not saying no, more of a maybe later. Gio is a fun idea.
At this point it isn't quite clear if Dermott or Holl is our number 7. If we add a serious dman both are reserves if one doesn't go back and let's face it they fit our tight budget.
So I'm not saying no, more of a maybe later. Gio is a fun idea.
Problem is Kristan Rubins was great when he played but his partners on the Leafs hung him out to dry! He’s big, played physical but unfortunately that’s not a style Keefe likes in his defenders.
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We're light on picks...want Justin Holl?
They aren't actually light on picks they have their 1st and 2nd this year and are only missing a 7th over the next 2 years is.
The narrative that they are light on picks is a lie.
@LEAFANFORLIFE23 -- Holy moly, I'm having trouble following your train of thought and would love to know your reasoning here.
CapFriendly says that today the Leafs have a Current Daily Cap Hit of $81,388,949 and Current Cap Space of 108,104, not counting Rasmus Sandin's salary because he is an "Emergency Exception."
When everyone is healthy, the Leafs can only carry at most 21 players on their roster. They can have either 13 forwards and six defencemen, or 12 forwards and seven defencemen. Right now they have 13 forwards and six defencemen, not including Sandin.
Without even acquiring another defenceman or two, the Leafs will have to get down to either 12 forwards or six defencemen. It doesn't matter too much for the purpose of this discussion which way they go – they could, for example, waive Nick Ritchie (or another forward) and keep both Sandin and Timothy Liljegren on the NHL roster; or they could go the other way by keeping all 13 forwards and sending one of Sandin and Liljegren onto the taxi squad without having to pass through waivers. Unless they waive Ritchie and get rid of all or part of his $2.5 million salary, they still have only 21 roster spots to work with. If they waive Ritchie, that would open up another roster spot or maybe even two.
Now you want to acquire Justin B-r-a-u-n [it would be a bit easier to take your idea seriously if you could even spell the player's name] for "depth." Were you thinking of trading for him just to place him on waivers and hopefully putting him on the taxi squad? If not, which players are you thinking of putting on waivers and/or sending to the taxi squad to make space for Braun?
Bear in mind that because Braun's salary is $1.8 million – more than twice the league minimum – the Leafs might have to send down two players to clear enough salary to carry Braun, thereby reducing their roster to 20 players. This would mean 12 forwards and six defenceman, with no spares to rotate in and out. Under that scenario, Braun would be playing as the sixth defenceman with both Sandin and Liljegren on the taxi squad, and this hardly qualifies as "depth".
Now I read that you think they need a couple of defencemen. Super. Which players were you thinking of moving off the roster, and how?
I'm also interested in where that Giordano bus you're driving is headed. That has a whole busload of salary-cap issues as well, and I am wondering what your thoughts are on how those would get resolved.
I think this type of discussion really belongs more on the Leafs' board because most people outside of Leafs' Nation really couldn't care less what the Leafs do with their salary cap. However, your thread here raises some salary-cap issues that are pretty hard to overlook.
I am interested in your reply.
CapFriendly says that today the Leafs have a Current Daily Cap Hit of $81,388,949 and Current Cap Space of 108,104, not counting Rasmus Sandin's salary because he is an "Emergency Exception."
When everyone is healthy, the Leafs can only carry at most 21 players on their roster. They can have either 13 forwards and six defencemen, or 12 forwards and seven defencemen. Right now they have 13 forwards and six defencemen, not including Sandin.
Without even acquiring another defenceman or two, the Leafs will have to get down to either 12 forwards or six defencemen. It doesn't matter too much for the purpose of this discussion which way they go – they could, for example, waive Nick Ritchie (or another forward) and keep both Sandin and Timothy Liljegren on the NHL roster; or they could go the other way by keeping all 13 forwards and sending one of Sandin and Liljegren onto the taxi squad without having to pass through waivers. Unless they waive Ritchie and get rid of all or part of his $2.5 million salary, they still have only 21 roster spots to work with. If they waive Ritchie, that would open up another roster spot or maybe even two.
Now you want to acquire Justin B-r-a-u-n [it would be a bit easier to take your idea seriously if you could even spell the player's name] for "depth." Were you thinking of trading for him just to place him on waivers and hopefully putting him on the taxi squad? If not, which players are you thinking of putting on waivers and/or sending to the taxi squad to make space for Braun?
Bear in mind that because Braun's salary is $1.8 million – more than twice the league minimum – the Leafs might have to send down two players to clear enough salary to carry Braun, thereby reducing their roster to 20 players. This would mean 12 forwards and six defenceman, with no spares to rotate in and out. Under that scenario, Braun would be playing as the sixth defenceman with both Sandin and Liljegren on the taxi squad, and this hardly qualifies as "depth".
Now I read that you think they need a couple of defencemen. Super. Which players were you thinking of moving off the roster, and how?
I'm also interested in where that Giordano bus you're driving is headed. That has a whole busload of salary-cap issues as well, and I am wondering what your thoughts are on how those would get resolved.
I think this type of discussion really belongs more on the Leafs' board because most people outside of Leafs' Nation really couldn't care less what the Leafs do with their salary cap. However, your thread here raises some salary-cap issues that are pretty hard to overlook.
I am interested in your reply.
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We're light on picks...want Justin Holl?
Maybe that's just a matter of opinion, but it's not a lie.
The Leafs have only two or three picks this year -- their own first, second and probably their seventh (as long as Mennell doesn't play 30 games, and there is very little chance he will) -- and all of their picks next year except their seventh, which has also been traded.
IMHO, I agree that the Leafs are light on picks. You obviously disagree, but that doesn't make it a false narrative or a lie.
If he said they are light on picks this year that's one thing but over the next 2 years after this year they are missing 1 7th roind pick not exactly hard to acquire and let's be honest neither are 3rd-6th round picks if they really wanted to.
You asked me eariler how I would create cap room, I don't have time to get into a full explanation right now but part of it would be to trade Justin Holl I think he needs to go, and yeah I think they could recoup a pick or 2 for him.
Interesting names are Niemala and Abruzesse. Not sure where they stand in the leafs pecking orderWe're light on picks...want Justin Holl?
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TheKingPin
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I don't think changing Holl for Braun improves the Leafs roster very much, if at all.
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WTFMAN99
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Niemela has more value to the Leafs than other teams most likely, probably in our top 3-4 prospects.
Abruzesse...potentaily available.
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It is definitely a style Dubas likes in his defenders if they have skill to match.
FlyerFire
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I would think, and no offense to him or the Leafs, that they would want a better prospect than Abruzesse for Braun.
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Come playoff time in covid land you need extra d. Normal playoffs you need at least 7(and 8 wasn't crazy) as there is always at least one injury. Covid world that is closer to 8-9.
BlueBaron
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I'm aware. We have 7. Adding a good one as I suggested makes 8.....it's almost like my post made sense.
