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He's still a good depth player. Especially at 1.8 million per year. His playoffs wasn't good, but if we judge players only by their playoffs, TK should be moved ASAP.
This board has a seething hatred for cheap, dirty-work depth players & PKers (except, strangely, the great Lyubimov).
 

Magua

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My favorite thing is 5 minutes after a new deal, people saying, “It can be moved!”
 

deadhead

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If Ghost can bounce back to something close to 2018, a Friedman-Braun bottom pair could potentially work. He's capable of playing both sides and stylistically there could be a match there.

Provorov - Myers
Sanheim - Ghost
Friedman - Braun

But Friedman would have to blow the doors off to play ahead of Bobby Hitz unfortunately.

Sanheim - Ghost would be roadkill against any team that can forecheck.
Ghost - Friedman might have similar issues. I'll wait until I see enough of Friedman.

Sanheim - Braun worked well last season, Sanheim needs a responsible babysitter.
Ghost - Braun should have worked well for the same reason, but didn't, maybe Ghost just couldn't play last year.

Nothing they put out there, without a major move, is going to look that pretty, but as long as its functional . . .
 

Striiker

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if ghost doesn't regain his form our defense is f***ed...

if seattle doesn't take one of hagg/braun that would f***ing suck
He didn't lose his form.

He got buried and scratched. Then he was our best D in the small playoff sample he played and got scratched again. His individual quality of play is not, and never has been, the problem.
 
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son of a bitch man

now its:

provorov-ghost/braun
sanheim-myers
hagg-ghost/braun

I'm not going to totally freak until I see what he does before the season starts, which really at this point - who the hell knows when that might even be. They aren't going to play in empty arenas again is my guess.

Niskanen departing really allows Myers to potentially take that next step in his career. The fear is any time you have to give more minutes to Hagg or Braun, and ideally a team that's trying to win by committee isn't giving more ice time to shitty players. Having both on the squad isn't anywhere close to ideal, especially with a coach who seems to be unable to see past their limitations.
 
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deadhead

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He's still a good depth player. Especially at 1.8 million per year. His playoffs wasn't good, but if we judge players only by their playoffs, TK should be moved ASAP.

Braun had a higher xGFrel in the playoffs than Sanheim, Myers or Hagg.
He may look ugly, but he knows how to play.
Braun -1.70
Myers -3.66
Sanheim -4.07
Hagg - 6.49
 

BillDineen

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He's still a good depth player. Especially at 1.8 million per year. His playoffs wasn't good, but if we judge players only by their playoffs, TK should be moved ASAP.

I didn't read the Niskanen news before seeing this.
 
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Petr Svoboda Mullet

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People always want to act like these "depth" signings don't matter and people being pissed are overreacting, but the reality is they are bringing back the god awful 3rd pair because they like them.

They are not putting together a 2020 hockey team, period. You cannot be a contender with braun-hagg.

I must have missed the memo on the season starting tomorrow....
 
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Sanheim - Ghost would be roadkill against any team that can forecheck.
Ghost - Friedman might have similar issues. I'll wait until I see enough of Friedman.

Sanheim - Braun worked well last season, Sanheim needs a responsible babysitter.
Ghost - Braun should have worked well for the same reason, but didn't, maybe Ghost just couldn't play last year.

Nothing they put out there, without a major move, is going to look that pretty, but as long as its functional . . .

Braun was mostly responsible for that pairs shortcomings. He was completely lost in coverage whenever they were together and it didn't make a lick of sense.
 
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Striiker

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People always want to act like these "depth" signings don't matter and people being pissed are overreacting, but the reality is they are bringing back the god awful 3rd pair because they like them.

They are not putting together a 2020 hockey team, period. You cannot be a contender with braun-hagg.
That's just because some people can't admit the staff is trash, so they'll turd polish anything they do.

Reality is, the team just got worse with this signing. Everything matters, even depth signings.
 

landsbergfan

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So Fletcher's desire for more depth on defense as it currently stands

- Niskanen
+ Friedman

Only move left is basically moving Ghost in a "hockey trade"
 

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People always want to act like these "depth" signings don't matter and people being pissed are overreacting, but the reality is they are bringing back the god awful 3rd pair because they like them.

They are not putting together a 2020 hockey team, period. You cannot be a contender with braun-hagg.

It's way too early in the offseason to be this fatalistic. The season ended last week lol.
 

deadhead

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People always want to act like these "depth" signings don't matter and people being pissed are overreacting, but the reality is they are bringing back the god awful 3rd pair because they like them.

They are not putting together a 2020 hockey team, period. You cannot be a contender with braun-hagg.

We didn't make the playoffs?
 

flyerslducks

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I'm not going to totally freak until I see what he does before the season starts, which really at this point - who the hell knows when that might even be. They aren't going to play in empty arenas again is my guess.

Niskanen departing really allows Myers to potentially take that next step in his career. The fear is any time you have to give more minutes to Hagg or Braun, and ideally a team that's trying to win by committee isn't giving more ice time to shitty players. Having both on the squad isn't anywhere close to ideal, especially with a coach who seems to be unable to see past their limitations.

i see this signing as the bottom pair. Both signed same length because they think hagg-braun actually works and they want to keep braun to "help" hagg as he "worked" better than ghost. At least ghost takes niskanens top 4 spot but its still a huge loss today
 

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