Player Discussion Justin Barron

[Habsrule]

Tonight was by far his best game of the season.

 

[Ezpz]

I thought he played one of his better games tonight. Probably was the third best d after guhle and Hutson.

 

[417]

I thought he played one of his better games tonight. Probably was the third best d after guhle and Hutson.

Quite evidently, but some people think he was dogshit.

Go figure.

You can tell who watches the game and who just confirms their bias.

He had one bad pass, which I wouldn't totally even put on him.

But he did a bunch of other good things tonight.

 

[Walksss]

I thought he played well and has taken substantial steps compared to his play last year. His physical game has been 10x better this season, i think he has room to improve on it still which would be great.

There are still concerns though, his passing accuracy hasn't been great and it seems it's from rushing the play and breakouts, he really needs to find a way to slow the play down.

He seems like a guy who needs more reps to become more comfortable. Not a guy who plays top-4 minutes with Matheson, that's not the recipe. I assume it'll be a 3 man rotation with Xhekaj and Struble and I hope we give him the leash to continue to get the reps he needs.

 

[Habs7631]

22, all the tools and he’s getting better. Not like we’re competing for a cup right now, let the dude play and see where he’s at in 2-3 years.

 

[salbutera]

Quite evidently, but some people think he was dogshit.

Go figure.

You can tell who watches the game and who just confirms their bias.

He had one bad pass, which I wouldn't totally even put on him.

But he did a bunch of other good things tonight.

What about all the puck bobbling that killed offense & transitions?

Dipshit is Josh Brook reincarnate..

Thankfully Struble’s return will permanently plant his kisser in the pressbox

 

[417]

What about all the puck bobbling that killed offense & transitions?

I didn't notice that this was an issue for him more than any other player.

Our transition was awful for most of the game regardless.

The amount of times that passes weren't tape-to-tape or behind guys, I'm not just going to point it out when it happens to a specific player.

I keep saying it, but Barron for whatever reason isn't well liked, so every mistake gets magnified, while every good play gets ignored.

Unless he piles up points that's not going to change around here because that's what we do round’ here.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

By far the best game he played this season was tonight. Was physical and laid out a couple of Pens, moved the puck well, overall a much needed solid performance. If we could get tonight’s version of Barron on a more consistent basis, we’d be a much better overall team. Gotta give the man credit where it’s due, he was one of the best Habs defensemen tonight.

 

[Paddyjack]

Quite evidently, but some people think he was dogshit.

Go figure.

You can tell who watches the game and who just confirms their bias.

He had one bad pass, which I wouldn't totally even put on him.

But he did a bunch of other good things tonight.

You know, this goes both ways. A lot of people also ignore his blatants mistakes to only focus on some good plays. Saw that with Drouin before. And KK. And Chuckie. etc.

But still, I agree he needs more time. It's not like we are contending anyway, or that he is stealing a spot.

 

[LaP]

Quite evidently, but some people think he was dogshit.

Go figure.

You can tell who watches the game and who just confirms their bias.

He had one bad pass, which I wouldn't totally even put on him.

But he did a bunch of other good things tonight.

He played relative well yesterday. Certainly not worse than any other dmen on the ice. There's still some hesitation in his game he's still too tentative. But there really is no reason not to try him seriously this year.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

What about all the puck bobbling that killed offense & transitions?

Dipshit is Josh Brook reincarnate..

Thankfully Struble’s return will permanently plant his kisser in the pressbox

Have you seen how many times CC has had a case of the yips with the puck on his stick in a good shooting position? He puts in the back of the net on occasion so gets a pass while Barron gets branded for it. There’s been a lot of sloppy play from Habs players, Newhook has barely hit a linemate on the tape with a pass, Dach is almost invisible outside the PP. It’s early days with a messed up preseason, let’s see where they’re at in a month.

 

[salbutera]

Have you seen how many times CC has had a case of the yips with the puck on his stick in a good shooting position? He puts in the back of the net on occasion so gets a pass while Barron gets branded for it. There’s been a lot of sloppy play from Habs players, Newhook has barely hit a linemate on the tape with a pass, Dach is almost invisible outside the PP. It’s early days with a messed up preseason, let’s see where they’re at in a month.

Caufield is a one trick pony - elite shot who gets paid to score G… he leads the team w 4G

What exactly does Dipshit bring to the table? Habs traded a guaranteed 10-year NHL career regular who could be plugged into anywhere in the lineup for Josh Brook reincarnate…

 

[417]

You know, this goes both ways. A lot of people also ignore his blatants mistakes to only focus on some good plays. Saw that with Drouin before. And KK. And Chuckie. etc.

But still, I agree he needs more time. It's not like we are contending anyway, or that he is stealing a spot.

Of course it goes both ways, but I try to stay away from narrative based gradings of players.

There isn't anyone on this team that I dislike per se, so i'd like to think I can be pretty objective when evaluating players, not saying that this isn't the case with most people...but you can tell when it happens.

He played relative well yesterday. Certainly not worse than any other dmen on the ice. There's still some hesitation in his game he's still too tentative. But there really is no reason not to try him seriously this year.

Agreed...but yesterday, he was anything but tentative. I have rarely seen him as assertive/aggressive as I did last night.

So it was a weird night, out of all nights, to shit on the kid's performance.

 

[417]

Caufield is a one trick pony - elite shot who gets paid to score G… he leads the team w 4G

What exactly does Dipshit bring to the table? Habs traded a guaranteed 10-year NHL career regular who could be plugged into anywhere in the lineup for Josh Brook reincarnate…

When you call the guy "dipshit", it's hard to really argue you're being objective in evaluating his play.

As for the trade context: The Habs weren't going to be able to re-sign Lehkonen, that's not "dipshit's" fault, so not sure why you're holding that against him.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Caufield is a one trick pony - elite shot who gets paid to score G… he leads the team w 4G

What exactly does Dipshit bring to the table? Habs traded a guaranteed 10-year NHL career regular who could be plugged into anywhere in the lineup for Josh Brook reincarnate…

I’m not worried about CC just pointing out he’s had more than his share of bobbles to start the season. I liked Lehky but he’ll be 31 when we want to compete and one of those players good enough to keep us from tanking but not good enough to make us a competitor. Barron was a lottery ticket, even Crosby who trained with him said Avs shouldn’t have traded someone with his skills, still time for him to put it together, he missed a lot of key development time with injuries and Covid lets see if he’s still Josh Brook in 2 years.

 

[CharleyHorse]

I didn't notice that this was an issue for him more than any other player.

Our transition was awful for most of the game regardless.

The amount of times that passes weren't tape-to-tape or behind guys, I'm not just going to point it out when it happens to a specific player.

I keep saying it, but Barron for whatever reason isn't well liked, so every mistake gets magnified, while every good play gets ignored.

Unless he piles up points that's not going to change around here because that's what we do round’ here.

Totally agree with you. It feels like a lot of people only associate ‘good’ play with how many points a player racks up. Case in point—Gallagher. If he hadn’t scored those two goals, people would be lining up to criticize him, and some probably still are. Same thing with Caufield: if he’s not scoring, suddenly responsible play means nothing, and he’s getting trashed for it. It’s frustrating how much we overlook the little things that matter just because they don’t show up on the stat sheet

 

[Tyson]

We know Barron has good offensive skills, if he can round out his defensive game and maybe instill a bit more grit then he could become a good player. He truly is still developing and 100 NHL games is far from being developed.

 

[Theodore450]

When you call the guy "dipshit", it's hard to really argue you're being objective in evaluating his play.

As for the trade context: The Habs weren't going to be able to re-sign Lehkonen, that's not "dipshit's" fault, so not sure why you're holding that against him.

He was an RFA. Let’s not pretend like cap space was impossible to come by. This is the same team that dressed Pearson instead of waiving him like Armia

 

[Bobby Holik agent]

We're allow to call a Montreal roster players "Dipshit" here??

 

[Skip Bayless]

I remember Leafs fans used to hate Kaberle for getting rid of the puck under pressure.

Kaberle did manage to produce really well because of his passing ability, but he was one of the softest D in the game back then.

For Barron, I feel like he needs to find a way to become more of a threat offensively. He does have the tools, but it hasn't come together yet.

 

[Egresch]

I dont know guys, I just watched the game and Barron was 2nd best D behind Guhle. He laid 3 big hit that sparked the team in 1st period. Savard was horrible, Hutson naive.

 

[Tyson]

I dont know guys, I just watched the game and Barron was 2nd best D behind Guhle. He laid 3 big hit that sparked the team in 1st period. Savard was horrible, Hutson naive.

Very nice to hear about Barron. He was a 1st round pick for a reason.

 

[the]

I wish Barron could get some reps on the 2nd PP unit. This is where his skills would really shine and accentuate his potential.

 

[Tyson]

I wish Barron could get some reps on the 2nd PP unit. This is where his skills would really shine and accentuate his potential.

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[Sorinth]

Barron is in the Petry and Matheson mold of a D with size, skating, offensive ability, but needs time and the right environment/opportunity to put it together. Petry broke out at 30, Matheson at 28ish, we can hope for better but the realistically we should expect 5-6 years of ups and downs with Barron.

So the real question is can we deal with those 5+ years of learning/growth in order to see him reach his potential as a #2-3 type of D? I do expect that he will have a pretty good NHL career when all is said and done, but whether it's with us or some other team is probably dependent on how quickly Mailloux and Reinbacher can start having an impact.