Player Discussion Justin Barron

[Naslundforever]

These are unrealistic timelines.. Reinbacher would require waivers in 3-4 years. It's a season for Mailloux, and likely a season and a half for Reinbacher because of the injury, otherwise he would have been up by the end of this year.

That’s unfortunate. Do long-term injuries push waiver deadlines back? Seems these kids will be good but are no-where close.

 

[Rapala]

I laughed like hell listening to On Jase I think it was.
We don't need Barron being an offensive player since we have Matheson and now Hutson...

Pushing for Mailloux who didn't exactly win defensive player of the year last year.

 

[morhilane]

I laughed like hell listening to On Jase I think it was.
We don't need Barron being an offensive player since we have Matheson and now Hutson...

Pushing for Mailloux who didn't exactly win defensive player of the year last year.

Or this pre-season....

 

[26Mats]

I laughed like hell listening to On Jase I think it was.
We don't need Barron being an offensive player since we have Matheson and now Hutson...

Pushing for Mailloux who didn't exactly win defensive player of the year last year.

Well, I definitely think Barron has to be defensively stable. Maybe Matheson and Hutson have more leeway for a few minuses defensively for all they offense they can bring. But I don't think we need a high risk, high reward player, if that's what they meant. For me, if Barron can learn to hold it down defensively, any offense he brings is a bonus. Same for Mailloux, Reinbacher, Xhekaj, Struble, Engstrom, Bogdan, etc... Given we have Matheson and Hutson, I would definitely be most happy if this dcore established itself as able to hold it down defensively over seeing more offense.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Gotta think we are looking for a better solution in the interim. I think a trigger will get pulled I just can't say when.

Rasmus Andersson is the target. Then explore trades for Matheson further down the line.

Guhle-Andersson
Hutson-Reinbacher
Xhekaj-Mailloux
Struble

That’s unfortunate. Do long-term injuries push waiver deadlines back? Seems these kids will be good but are no-where close.

It's all about the number of contract years, the only thing it could do is delay the waiver clock kicking in earlier due to number of games played before the expiry of their ELC.

 

[26Mats]

Rasmus Andersson is the target. Then explore trades for Matheson further down the line.

Guhle-Andersson
Hutson-Reinbacher
Xhekaj-Mailloux
Struble



It's all about the number of contract years, the only thing it could do is delay the waiver clock kicking in earlier due to number of games played before the expiry of their ELC.

MSL and Hughes really like Matheson. It will be interesting to see if they do end up trading him. His play over the next two seasons will dictate a lot. No guarantee he can replicate the offensive production. Also no guarantee he can't tighten it up defensively. If he rises to another level defensively, he may not be moved. Similarly if he can keep this production up. It's just going to be really interesting to see how Hughtes handles the surplus of assets at LD, and still the dearth at RD (until we find out what Reinbacher, Mailloux, Barron, and Bogdan are).

 

[WeThreeKings]

MSL and Hughes really like Matheson. It will be interesting to see if they do end up trading him. His play over the next two seasons will dictate a lot. No guarantee he can replicate the offensive production. Also no guarantee he can't tighten it up defensively. If he rises to another level defensively, he may not be moved. Similarly if he can keep this production up. It's just going to be really interesting to see how Hughtes handles the surplus of assets at LD, and still the dearth at RD (until we find out what Reinbacher, Mailloux, Barron, and Bogdan are).

They can't keep Guhle on the right side forever and Hutson is going to be a fixture on the left side long term. Eventually, Matheson will be victim and have to go, it's a matter of when that is.. and that likely will be when they find somebody else on the right side with experience.

 

[26Mats]

They can't keep Guhle on the right side forever and Hutson is going to be a fixture on the left side long term. Eventually, Matheson will be victim and have to go, it's a matter of when that is.. and that likely will be when they find somebody else on the right side with experience.

Another scenario is they put Matheson on the right side. I would say Matheson is coming into his own perhaps more than young Guhle at this point. Guhle is solid on the right side. Matheson isn't even solid on the left side. But if Matheson solidifies himself defensively on the left side, I could see a scenario where he's tried on the right. Guhle (defensive stability), Hutson (elite offense), an Xhekaj (nuclear deterence) have priority on the left, for the key element each brings. But I could see Matheson on right winning a spot over Mailloux, Barron, and Bogdan, even if Rasmus Anderson, or another RD vet, and Reibacher take the top 2 spots on the right.

We'll see. There is still a lot of hockey to be played over the next two years.

 

[Rapala]

Another scenario is they put Matheson on the right side. I would say Matheson is coming into his own perhaps more than young Guhle at this point. Guhle is solid on the right side. Matheson isn't even solid on the left side. But if Matheson solidifies himself defensively on the left side, I could see a scenario where he's tried on the right. Guhle (defensive stability), Hutson (elite offense), an Xhekaj (nuclear deterence) have priority on the left, for the key element each brings. But I could see Matheson on right winning a spot over Mailloux, Barron, and Bogdan, even if Rasmus Anderson, or another RD vet, and Reibacher take the top 2 spots on the right.

We'll see. There is still a lot of hockey to be played over the next two years.

The one thing that is uncontestable is the NOW has become important and doubly so for next season.
As much as Hughes Marty and co. may like an individual they have always stressed "Balance" when discussing team building.
We don't have it and they want it so how do we get it?

 

[26Mats]

The one thing that is uncontestable is the NOW has become important and doubly so for next season.
As much as Hughes Marty and co. may like an individual they have always stressed "Balance" when discussing team building.
We don't have it and they want it so how do we get it?

I wrote when reports came out that Rasmus Andersson may not re-sign in Calgary that it would be great to trade for him and then in a separate deal trade Matheson.

We'll see what HuGo choose to do though. Even if they get Andersson, they may choose to hang on to Matheson and see how things play out with Reinbacher, Mailloux, Barron, and Bogdan before dealing Matheson.

 

[the valiant effort]

he has shown improvement without the puck but is apparently gripping the hell out of his stick because the puck movement that should be coming easy to him has become a saga

 

[Trabdy2]

Mailloux is further away than I thought. His game needs a lot of work still. Full year of AHL and we'll see?

Barron is ahead definitely at the moment.

 

[Hannibal]

Barron and Mailloux are bad.

 

[WinterLion]

man he skates well

 

[puckeater]

I really hope he finds a way to process faster. He has all the attributes suited for the position, but, under any pressure with puck he’s way too slow to react. Currently he looks like a modern version of Patrice Brisebois.

Similarly with Newhook, a speedy, shifty, forward who loses possession at the wave of a stick. Where plays go to die.
It’s Sven Andrighetto 2.0

These two have been in long enough to show some progress up the curve.

 

[26Mats]

I really hope he finds a way to process faster. He has all the attributes suited for the position, but, under any pressure with puck he’s way too slow to react. Currently he looks like a modern version of Patrice Brisebois.

Similarly with Newhook, a speedy, shifty, forward who loses possession at the wave of a stick. Where plays go to die.
It’s Sven Andrighetto 2.0

These two have been in long enough to show some progress up the curve.

Newhook scored at a 20 goal pace last year. I think he can do that. Not sure he can do much more. But I think he could be a useful 3rd liner.

I see him as an upgrade on Paul Byron. And yeah, he's not good at board battles.

 

[Balthazar]

Mailloux is further away than I thought.

Not even sure his hockey IQ is NHL material. Could top as a very good AHL dman.

 

[Agalloch]

Barron will make the team but he's not on the team in a year or 2. I'm sure of it. Reinbacher/Mailloux will take his place really soon.

 

[Canad13ns]

Newhook scored at a 20 goal pace last year. I think he can do that. Not sure he can do much more. But I think he could be a useful 3rd liner.

I see him as an upgrade on Paul Byron. And yeah, he's not good at board battles.

He's an upgrade on the post-head-injury Byron. Hopefully he gets better.

 

[Andrei79]

Mailloux is further away than I thought. His game needs a lot of work still. Full year of AHL and we'll see?

Barron is ahead definitely at the moment.

Im surprised people are surprised. His game is still very raw, despite how good he is at getting pucks to the net and using his shot. His skating has been overrated as well. He has strong strides making his straight ahead speed good, but he's not a very agile player and he makes so many poor decisions defensively. It was insane to read Mailloux was better than Reinbacher when it wasn't at all that close to be frank. Barron had a good enough camp though. He makes the team.

 

[26Mats]

He's an upgrade on the post-head-injury Byron. Hopefully he gets better.

I think Newhook can be an upgrade on prime Byron. Prime Byron was faster and really dangerous on the counter strike. But Newhook has more skill and may be our 3c, or at least a better option at C in case of injuries.

 

[Rapala]

I didn't like his first period last night but other than that he had a decent camp.
His icetime will depend on whether or not we can get Struble to play that RD.
They keep trying Xhekaj there and he's just not very good at it.
We are going to see games where Xhekaj Struble are a necessity.

 

[Tyson]

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I didn't like his first period last night but other than that he had a decent camp.
His icetime will depend on whether or not we can get Struble to play that RD.
They keep trying Xhekaj there and he's just not very good at it.
We are going to see games where Xhekaj Struble are a necessity.

Game 1 they will both be necessary

 

[Rapala]

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Game 1 they will both be necessary

It'll be interesting to see what they do.
One of our problems against the Leafs in the past has been our inability to touch the puck.

 

[Tyson]

It'll be interesting to see what they do.
One of our problems against the Leafs in the past has been our inability to touch the puck.

Superior teams have that effect!