Rumor: Just Kidding! Pettersson and JT Miller Trade Reunion!

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It's the constant conundrum with Buffalo, isn't it? Elite prospect pool, amazing drafting and talent on the NHL roster, players with insane trade values - yet the team stinks.

I know everybody blames "ownership" - but maybe the players aren't as good as thought of (at least, to you know, win). Not making Kulich available when you theoretically have 3 center replacements already on the roster is the type of decision that failing organizations do.

The Sabres: where every year is the year, until about halfway through.

That's like saying the Flyers (my team, who are also guilty of this nonsense), won't trade away Tyson Foerster even though they have like 8000 RWs (admittedly may not be as good but certainly talented) for an established elite 1C.

Is it a risk to call him that? Sure. But it's a hell of a lot less risky saying EP will hit 100 points again than Jett Luchanko hitting 100.
Not a Flyers fan, but am a fan of Foerster. I read an article where they stated, he’s untouchable. I get it, but like you said…they have a bunch of other RW who could fill in. If Flyers are looking for that top C, I’d imagine Foerster has to be a part of the deal. Curious, any players you’d have in mind?
 
In a 2022 draft redo Kulich would be a top 12 pick. He can br a top 2 center

I dont see him getting moved.

Buffalo isnt trading their 1st in 25.

I'm not saying you are right or wrong. Have not followed Kulich enough to know. I just find these things interesting because the Habs get labeled for overrating our own all the time. Not saying you are but something to ponder on where he tops out at. He's got good development.
 
I'm not saying you are right or wrong. Have not followed Kulich enough to know. I just find these things interesting because the Habs get labeled for overrating our own all the time. Not saying you are but something to ponder on where he tops out at. He's got good development.

He is the one prospect that has shown true development every year since being drafted. Both offensively and defensively. The guy has a world class shot but they were worried that he was relying too much on it.. this year they told him they wanted him to get in the dirty areas and score some dirty goals. The majority of his goals have been just that.. down low in crease.
 
I'm not saying you are right or wrong. Have not followed Kulich enough to know. I just find these things interesting because the Habs get labeled for overrating our own all the time. Not saying you are but something to ponder on where he tops out at. He's got good development.
I'm not one to inflate players values if they are drafted outside top 25

Many on here do that saying this player would be a stud. Historical probabilities say otherwise

U20s is a good measuring stick. Hes been very good in 23 and 24. He is 20 this year.

His play, along with buffalo drafting Helenius made Savoie expendable
 
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Pettersson has done the Canucks a dirty by not playing up to his contract.
EP has struggled no doubt but I have no doubt in my mind that it's more to do with the style Tochett plays and the head scratching decisions in regards to linemates and D pairings, along with not being fully healthy.

When JT was away EP was anchored with Quinn which obviously helped since we saw his production go way up, he was also paired with Sherwood but more than anything it's clear that Tochett is determined to play a style that stifles any East- West, high event hockey and basically have shots from the point.

I'm not advocating going back to a Bruce run system but anyone who follows this team can clearly see Tochett has sucked out any offensive creativity from the forwards. We are not a big team up front we are a team that should win with skill, yet every forward seems terrified to try anything.
We have become the most boring team in the league and we have the worst save% since November and one of the worst offensive dcorps. I have faith Demko will find his game and help is coming on D but ffs take the leash of the forwards and load up the top six since this boring low event bullshit style isn't even winning us games
 
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I'm not one to inflate players values if they are drafted outside top 25

Many on here do that saying this player would be a stud. Historical probabilities say otherwise

U20s is a good measuring stick. Hes been very good in 23 and 24. He is 20 this year.

His play, along with buffalo drafting Helenius made Savoie expendable

Decent weight/size and he has good skating with skill. AHL numbers are stable and he's showing promise in NHL games. Yeah, it appears to be tracking a top 6F to me.

Playing 16-19 min's a game lately on the first line it appears. On the 2nd PP unit?
 
I'm not one to inflate players values if they are drafted outside top 25

Many on here do that saying this player would be a stud. Historical probabilities say otherwise

U20s is a good measuring stick. Hes been very good in 23 and 24. He is 20 this year.

His play, along with buffalo drafting Helenius made Savoie expendable
What ever happened to Ostlund? I remember being told by Canucks and Sabres fans that we made a huge mistake taking Lekkermaki over him, and now Lekkermaki is looking like a great pick at 15.
 
What ever happened to Ostlund? I remember being told by Canucks and Sabres fans that we made a huge mistake taking Lekkermaki over him, and now Lekkermaki is looking like a great pick at 15.
He seems to be doing well, playing well in the AHL after coming back from a hand injury, scoring points in every game. Ostlund has always been a long-term prospect development.
 
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So Kulich is a deal breaker for a 100pts player :slaugh:

Good ol Buffalo, never change.
Is he still a 100 point player though? If you want to trade for what players have done in the past then take our 30 goal scorer Cozens.

Also EP is due a 10 million dollar bonus July 1st. I don't think EP has the value you think he has

I would trade a package with Kulich for EP but then you aren't getting one of Power or Byram, thats too much. Kulich is going to be a 30+ goal scorer in this league and that feels like the low end. He is on track for 20 goals this year and he was barely used in the first 20 games and as a rookie he has looked very good, especially the last 10 games he has been one of the best players.

What ever happened to Ostlund? I remember being told by Canucks and Sabres fans that we made a huge mistake taking Lekkermaki over him, and now Lekkermaki is looking like a great pick at 15.
Unfortunately he injured his hand and needed surgery. He just got back on track with 7 points in 9 games.
 
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Is he still a 100 point player though?
Man, EP40 could be a 120 point scorer in this league...
That's the reason our fanbase is refreshing these threads 100x a day.

We're willing to move off of him simply due to fit. He's not fitting in the locker room, on the PP, with a Quinn Hughes-led offense, etc.
It's like having a Ferrari in the garage, but you already have a Lambo that you drive daily... and now your kids have grown and they all need vehicles too.
We just want to spread the wealth around and give Hughes the surrounding pieces he needs to thrive.

Nobody is going to steal EP40 away. It will be a hockey deal, or no deal.
I can handle a bit of JT Miller slander, even though I believe he deserves a lot more respect than he's been getting from fans on this board. But you all know how good Pettersson is when he's on his game, so just cool it.
 
He seems to be doing well, playing well in the AHL after coming back from a hand injury, scoring points in every game. Ostlund has always been a long-term prospect development.

Unfortunately he injured his hand and needed surgery. He just got back on track with 7 points in 9 games.
Thanks for clarifying. I thought it odd that fans though highly of him, and his stats in AHL didn't look great.
 
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Thanks for clarifying. I thought it odd that fans though highly of him, and his stats in AHL didn't look great.
I am not 100% sure of the timeline but I think he injured his hand in preseason and tried to play through it and had 1 point in his first 10 games and then got the surgery. Since coming back and has 3g and 4a in 9 games which is pretty good coming back from surgery. Seeing 1 point in his first 10 games was concerning but I am sure it was a result of the injury.
 
Very little chance the Canucks win any Pettersson trade. World class talent entering his prime.

If Buffalo the trade partner then I want a lottery ball in the Mackenna sweepstakes.


2026 1st - unprotected
Byram
Cozens
Peterka


For

Pettersson


Core of: Thompson ,Pettersson, Dahlin, Powers, Tuch, Kulich, Benson is surely a playoff team. With young studs like Helenuis, Ostlund and Rosen coming in or used as ammo to surround the core.
 
Man, EP40 could be a 120 point scorer in this league...
That's the reason our fanbase is refreshing these threads 100x a day.

We're willing to move off of him simply due to fit. He's not fitting in the locker room, on the PP, with a Quinn Hughes-led offense, etc.
It's like having a Ferrari in the garage, but you already have a Lambo that you drive daily... and now your kids have grown and they all need vehicles too.
We just want to spread the wealth around and give Hughes the surrounding pieces he needs to thrive.

Nobody is going to steal EP40 away. It will be a hockey deal, or no deal.
I can handle a bit of JT Miller slander, even though I believe he deserves a lot more respect than he's been getting from fans on this board. But you all know how good Pettersson is when he's on his game, so just cool it.
EP40 has never scored 120 points. The outliner year is 102 points in his career. I don't know that he'll ever shoot the puck enough to be 120 point player. I think he has enough talent to be a point PPG+, player, and that's probably the hope around the organization.
 
Very little chance the Canucks win any Pettersson trade. World class talent entering his prime.

If Buffalo the trade partner then I want a lottery ball in the Mackenna sweepstakes.


2026 1st - unprotected
Byram
Cozens
Peterka


For

Pettersson


Core of: Thompson ,Pettersson, Dahlin, Powers, Tuch, Kulich, Benson is surely a playoff team. With young studs like Helenuis, Ostlund and Rosen coming in or used as ammo to surround the core.
That's one really good piece too many from Buffalo. I completely would understand and expect Vancouver to get three really good pieces from Buffalo........but four is a bit much. If that 2026 1st is unprotected, I doubt they get BOTH Peterka and Cozens.....pick one.
 
Very little chance the Canucks win any Pettersson trade. World class talent entering his prime.

If Buffalo the trade partner then I want a lottery ball in the Mackenna sweepstakes.


2026 1st - unprotected
Byram
Cozens
Peterka


For

Pettersson


Core of: Thompson ,Pettersson, Dahlin, Powers, Tuch, Kulich, Benson is surely a playoff team. With young studs like Helenuis, Ostlund and Rosen coming in or used as ammo to surround the core.
If he was playing like a world class talent and not like he’s 4 million overpaid then this might make sense
 
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If he was playing like a world class talent and not like he’s 4 million overpaid then this might make sense

Trust me, Pettersson didnt just forget how to play hockey. Dude has scored 30+ goals 3 years in a row playing with scrubs like Mikhayev, Lafferty, Kuzmenko, Beuvaillier.


Its been a really tough calendar year for him tho. He is dealing with tendinitis, he got scammed in a real estate deal in Sweden, + dealing with his issues with JT Miller.

Once he gets through all these issues, he is going to easily be a 90+ point player while getting Selke votes for the next 5+ years.


Its going to take a massive massive deal to pry this guy out of Vancouver. They know exactly what he is capable of.
 
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Very little chance the Canucks win any Pettersson trade. World class talent entering his prime.

If Buffalo the trade partner then I want a lottery ball in the Mackenna sweepstakes.


2026 1st - unprotected
Byram
Cozens
Peterka


For

Pettersson


Core of: Thompson ,Pettersson, Dahlin, Powers, Tuch, Kulich, Benson is surely a playoff team. With young studs like Helenuis, Ostlund and Rosen coming in or used as ammo to surround the core.

Little rich. As was stated before.. I don't think you'll get 3 roster players. One of Cozens or Peterka. I'd throw in a prospect in the tier of Isak Rosen
 
Decent weight/size and he has good skating with skill. AHL numbers are stable and he's showing promise in NHL games. Yeah, it appears to be tracking a top 6F to me.

Playing 16-19 min's a game lately on the first line it appears. On the 2nd PP unit?
hes been playing top 6 C thr last 25 games or so. In between he was out with injury.

Thompson has an injured wrist ,( I speculate given he cant do draws) so he moved to wing and have Cozens pkay center. Hr has bern decent at center in draws given his nhl exp.

That also has helped Cozens being center with Zucker and Tuch on 3nd line. A concern with his performance has been the fact he was centering kids when he would be better with vets.

What ever happened to Ostlund? I remember being told by Canucks and Sabres fans that we made a huge mistake taking Lekkermaki over him, and now Lekkermaki is looking like a great pick at 15.
Hes been hurt playing his first yr in NA
 
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Little rich. As was stated before.. I don't think you'll get 3 roster players. One of Cozens or Peterka. I'd throw in a prospect in the tier of Isak Rosen

Its going to take " a little rich" type of trade to move Pettersson.


He is more valuable and had way better numbers than Eichel at the time Eichel was traded. Not to mention the risk of trading for Eichel at that point due to his neck. So what did Eichel get you guys..


Alex Tuch
Krebs
1st
2nd

Bufallo lost that deal imo as is the case during a trade when an elite player going into his prime is traded.

Pettersson >> Eichel

Its going to take 4 good pieces imo. or close to it. It might not be these players specifically but value wise i think it will be:

1st
Cozens
Byram
Peterka
 
The way these usually work is, the side with the player in better form, nixes and mocks the proposal. That would be the Leafs in this case since Marner is in very good form.

There would be a fair share, maybe a majority of Canucks fans who would be against it too.

But for either side, this trade would be as good of value as you could expect for either player. Any other trade besides this one, would probably be worse. For both the Leafs and Canucks.

Or would Leafs fans prefer Necas and some sweeteners to Petterson ?

Would Canucks fans prefer Necas and some sweeteners to Marner ?
 

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