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Definitely not.
My point was that fans of actual contenders don't have to be concerned with Sidney Crosby getting injured, or the odds of getting to the finals.
Just How Good Are the 2013-14 Rangers?
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My point was that fans of actual contenders don't have to be concerned with Sidney Crosby getting injured, or the odds of getting to the finals.
Thirty One
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Yeah, I'm certainly not arguing that. I think I'm one of the few that thanks the Rangers would be wise to move Callahan, but they should take they're playoff chances seriously.
The first point sure, but I'm not sure that's ultra-relevant, as 3/4 of the Rangers' playoff schedule would be through the East.
The second point, I'm not so sure on.
Absolutes are always best.
Boston and Pittsburgh fans may not be calculating their playoff odds, but they are aware of the chances of a lesser team upsetting them, even if they are understating it like many on here. At the end of the day, I think it's silly to suggest that there are 2 teams in the East who should take their playoff chances seriously.
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I'm sure Pittsburgh and Boston fans have nothing to worry about. I think you're overrating this contender thing. Were Pens fans calculating their odds last year when they scored 2 goals in 4 games? I'm sure Bruins fans wouldn't want to face the Pens this year either. Hell, there have been many favorites to go down in the last 2 decades, I'm sure their fans were confident too. Oh and there's more than one contender.
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Thirty One
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Seems like an oversimplification of my views.Right, anything can happen. Thank you guys for the enlightenment.
Can you define what "take the playoffs seriously" means?
Buyers?
Sellers?
Stand pat?
What do the Rangers do considering their contract situations?
Tawnos
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Looked at from in light of where they stand with the rest of the conference, they really only have 2 decisions to make before the deadline. Those 2 decisions are the ones where the potential return on trade is worth setting back the team on ice somewhat, today and for the rest of the year. The rest of the UFA trading chips don't have that value, including Stralman. I expect us to qualify all of our RFAs. Unsigned RFAs still retain their value in the offseason anyway.
I wouldnt put it past the Rangers to make a hail mary move for someone like Vanek at the deadline. Stranger things have happened.
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I don't think it's that black and white. With every move they make (or don't make) you have to weigh the upside versus the downside. When considering the downside, you project the loss that player would have on the playoff chances. So if you're going to sell off Girardi you had better get a top drawer package back. Callahan, IMO, has less impact on the team, so the package needed coming back would have to reflect that.
Tawnos
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I meant two decisions in regards to players already on the team (Girardi and Callahan). Making the decision to buy is something separate.
I wouldn't be surprised if they brought in a rental either.
Well, that'd be pretty ****ing stupid in my opinion.
This damn team - I think they should trade Callahan and possibly Girardi. But given their track record, I guess I should consider it a victory if they just stand pat.
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"Anything can happen!"
I certainly wouldn't be on board with that. But I'm not about to say absolutely no rentals, either.
Right, anything can happen. Thank you guys for the enlightenment.
The Rangers don't have as good of a chance of winning the cup as Boston and Pittsburgh, thanks for the enlightenment.
Tawnos
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Bringing in a rental doesn't necessarily mean not trading those guys...
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Exactly. Look at San Jose last year. Replaced two rentals with two rentals and arguably got better/stayed the same while picking up jillions of draft picks.
Kakko
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Can we not do this 'West is best. East is horrible' ********?
Taking out the bottom 2 teams in the east, since we have 2 more teams:
West has played 825 games and has 367 ROW
East has played 820 games and has 358 ROW
It's more or less equal...
Taking out the bottom 2 teams in the east, since we have 2 more teams:
West has played 825 games and has 367 ROW
East has played 820 games and has 358 ROW
It's more or less equal...
Virtanen18
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This argument is made because the West teams were dominating East teams before the new year. Think it may have changed now.
Tawnos
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All that really shows is that each conference is essentially equally balanced within themselves. Doesn't really address which conference is better than the other.
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Kakko
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No, but there are items that give some teams better chances than others. Boston and Pittsburgh are such teams.
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Still it's still an unbalanced measure. Calgary and Edmonton aren't getting anywhere near the playoffs, and they're still weighing the West's total down.
Yeah, head-to-head:
West: 177-108-40 (1.21 Pts/GP)
East: 148-136-41 (1.04 Pts/GP)
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