Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[Deebs]

The only assumptions i make is that there is upside to be developed in the NHL. Assuming the player is at this level of play, obviously.

As explained by the team it's because he's never played this heavy of a schedule and want to make sure his body doesn't fall apart.

 

[Le Tricolore]

I agree with this. If youre gonna keep him in the NHL at least give him pp1.

You can't give him PP1 when you have guys like Tanner Pearson, though!

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

You can't give him PP1 when you have guys like Tanner Pearson, though!

Well when guys like Tanner Pearson are outplaying our entire CORE there's a problem

 

[Hannibal]

You can't give him PP1 when you have guys like Tanner Pearson, though!

Or Josh Anderson lol

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

At this point, if he can even put up a Lafreniere-esque start to his career that will be seen as a big win and a great turn around

Feels bad

I still think he can become a top-6 W but not anytime soon and not in this environment, who knows if we will have the patience to wait for him to grow up before he loses all his confidence

 

[loudi94]

Define 'a force'.

Hard to knock off the puck, first to go in and get it, immovable from in front of the net.

 

[Jaynki]

I agree with this. If youre gonna keep him in the NHL at least give him pp1.

Agree on this one.

Its quite telling we have Monahan and Pearson, player we were paid to take, on our PP1.

Think we have the leash to try Slaf there.

 

[417]

You can't give him PP1 when you have guys like Tanner Pearson, though!

And you can’t use him on a 6-5 with your goalie pulled when trying to get a goal because Brendan Gallagher.

I promise you the Coyotes aren't saying “hey we’re down a goal and need an extra skater, Logan get out there! Actually scratch that, Travis Boyd you’re up!”

 

[Hannibal]

And you can’t use him on a 6-5 with your goalie pulled when trying to get a goal because Brendan Gallagher.

I promise you the Coyotes aren't saying “hey we’re down a goal and need an extra skater, Logan get out there! Actually scratch that, Travis Boyd you’re up!”

Exactly.

Vets power.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

And you can’t use him on a 6-5 with your goalie pulled when trying to get a goal because Brendan Gallagher.

I promise you the Coyotes aren't saying “hey we’re down a goal and need an extra skater, Logan get out there! Actually scratch that, Travis Boyd you’re up!”

Management / ownership are still thinking about the common casual fan who wants to win now. They are cowards who refuse to go scorched earth , one foot in one foot out , as always.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

I can certainly see the Habs picking him at 5OA in the 2023. Intangibles, character, winning culture, he makes his own baked beans, scored against Team Kazakhstan. Total package.

Maybe our genius draft interview strategy with questions like:

"So, say you are in a line, a sort of line that is like a queue, the kind of line where you stand behind one person and another person stands behind you. Oh I forgot, the line is for a cash machine, you know, what are they called, an ATM? Like a cash machine from the bank where you put your card in and money comes out, as long as you have money in your account, that is. Ah yes let's say that you are in line at the cash machine and there are 2 women in front of you. How about we say that they are old women? Yes yes 2 old women at the cash machine in front of you. Let's say we are in the line and a man comes and cuts in front of the whole line, if the man comes and cuts in front of the whole line, including you and the 2 ladies, old ladies that is, would you say something or would you let him cut the line?"

Didn't do us any favors other than making management feel like they were smart.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

*We don't want to let a losing culture fester*
Is crazy for a team thats best forward was paciorrety for like 7 years and iced bottom 5 rosters on paper for a decade

 

[River Meadow]

Hard to knock off the puck, first to go in and get it, immovable from in front of the net.

So a physical specimen, a Huge specimen, or a Hugh Jessiman, if you will.

 

[morhilane]

Management / ownership are still thinking about the common casual fan who wants to win now. They are cowards who refuse to go scorched earth , one foot in one foot out , as always.

I was going to post that. It's management/coaching to pretend to win now while claiming it's another development year (for the vets).

 

[Whitesnake]

And you can’t use him on a 6-5 with your goalie pulled when trying to get a goal because Brendan Gallagher.

I promise you the Coyotes aren't saying “hey we’re down a goal and need an extra skater, Logan get out there! Actually scratch that, Travis Boyd you’re up!”

Cooley is a much better offensive player than Slaf is right now. But yeah, once we go back into tanking mode, that's probably what will happen.

 

[Pazucha]

Cooley is a much better offensive player than Slaf is right now. But yeah, once we go back into tanking mode, that's probably what will happen.

I think I read somewhere that if Cooley wasn't playing PP1 he would have 0 points this season. If that's true it just shows how much important it is to have your rookie on the PP.

I think Bedard numbers would also be much worse without PP.

 

[calder candidate]

We’re big fans of these analytics report cards, right? Remember in preseason?

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Hughes and Slafkovsky are not comparable prospects or players. Hughes had a much, much better rookie (D+1) season in the NHL than Slafkovsky even if he only outproduced him by a tiny bit. It is insulting to both Jack Hughes and Juraj Slafkovsky to have them compared to each other, it is insulting to hockey fans to have to read this desperate comparison — anyone who follows hockey knows these two are not comparable in any way.

It’s not about criticizing the player — he is a Hab and we want his success — it’s about discussing how the organization plans to achieve this success. It seems their plan is stupid and bad.

I think everyone could now agree that playing him in the NHL wasn’t the best plan, I avocated for him being in the AHL and WJC. But even is he isn’t dominant at this point I think we have to live with it, he is playing a lot better than last year and playing top 6/9 minutes, if his playing time or performance dip any lower than I have no issue sending him to the AHL even if it is just to build help the Rocket make the playoff or some chemistry with guys like Roy, Heineman, Strubble and Mailloux than might be with the team sooner than later it better than trying to keep is head above water in the NHL.

 

[417]

Cooley is a much better offensive player than Slaf is right now. But yeah, once we go back into tanking mode, that's probably what will happen.

Is Brendan Gallagher a much better offensive player than Slaf is right now? Because that's really the only variable that matters.

I only brought up Logan Cooley because other NHL teams don't do this kind of deployment.

I despise bringing young players along by teaspoon feeding them ice time. If he's here, then he needs to play and be considered as a critical element of the top 6 and one of the players you lean on offensively.

If no, then I agree with the overall sentiment that he should be in Laval.

It's the in-between nonsense that's "ruined" players most often in Montreal and most of the time, it's in preference of players who are washed or just not good. It doesn't serve anyone but placate to old hockey addages that young players need to sit and learn.

 

[Dusty Bender]

We’re big fans of these analytics report cards, right? Remember in preseason?

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Hughes and Slafkovsky are not comparable prospects or players. Hughes had a much, much better rookie (D+1) season in the NHL than Slafkovsky even if he only outproduced him by a tiny bit. It is insulting to both Jack Hughes and Juraj Slafkovsky to have them compared to each other, it is insulting to hockey fans to have to read this desperate comparison — anyone who follows hockey knows these two are not comparable in any way.

It’s not about criticizing the player — he is a Hab and we want his success — it’s about discussing how the organization plans to achieve this success. It seems their plan is stupid and bad.

He actually had a good game last night. His first touches were good, he had a couple nice passes and scoring chances. Things are coming along slowly but they are improving and coming along.

Agreed. Marty even had Slaf, Newhook and RHP matched against the Hughes line on several occasions. I don’t think Slaf has an identity yet. He hasn’t figured out what will work for him. This could also be a product of his lack of strength.

 

[loudi94]

So a physical specimen, a Huge specimen, or a Hugh Jessiman, if you will.

HAHA. Ideally he would be what we all want Josh Anderson to be every game with better hands.

 

[Whitesnake]

Is Brendan Gallagher a much better offensive player than Slaf is right now? Because that's really the only variable that matters.

I only brought up Logan Cooley because other NHL teams don't do this kind of deployment.

I despise bringing young players along by teaspoon feeding them ice time. If he's here, then he needs to play and be considered as a critical element of the top 6 and one of the players you lean on offensively.

If no, then I agree with the overall sentiment that he should be in Laval.

In the in-between nonsense that's "ruined" players most often in Montreal.

And I've been advocating for him to go to Laval. And have the type of offensive chances there first. To get them here after. But it seems that it makes me a Slaf hater.

 

[morhilane]

I think I read somewhere that if Cooley wasn't playing PP1 he would have 0 points this season. If that's true it just shows how much important it is to have your rookie on the PP.

I think Bedard numbers would also be much worse without PP.

Cooley has 5 pp assists on his total of 5 pts. Also, a total of 5 shots in 6 games despite an average TOI of 17:39 (4 minutes of that is PP time).

Slaf has 6 shots in 6 games on an average TOI of 14:50 (under 2 minutes of that is PP time).

Bedard only has 1 pp point (a goal) and 4 pts in 7 games so far.

It's going to be a long seasons for all of them...

 

[417]

And I've been advocating for him to go to Laval. And have the type of offensive chances there first. To get them here after. But it seems that it makes me a Slaf hater.

Not sure whose called you a Slafkovsky hater, I've known you for a long time and it's not your style, so I wouldn't pay to much attention to that.

I personally prefer for him to play in Montreal, but if this is how they're going to use him, then I prefer he go to Laval - though there's no guarantee JF Houle is going to deploy in favourable situations either mind you.

Just very annoyed to see we’re pulling our goalie down not 1 but 2 goals and Brendan Gallagher is on the ice.

Especially last night given he was having a good game and had a career high in ice time (for a reason I presume).

 

[Le Tricolore]

Well when guys like Tanner Pearson are outplaying our entire CORE there's a problem

Pearson has been playing well this so far, better than I expected, but his skillset doesn't really belong on the PP, especially not at the point like he was for the first few PPs last night. If they want to put him in front of the net, where Gallagher or Anderson can play then sure, but otherwise it'll never work.

Slaf had a couple of decent looks yesterday, and overall I'm liking what I see. It's too bad that the production isn't there, but if he keeps playing this way, it'll come.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Correct in what way? How are those 3 related? They reached their RFA status on 3 different year. KK was 2021, Dach was 2022 and Newhook was 2023.

That's just how it was reported, it wasn't the first time either they came inquiring about KK. So yeah, you can call it a rumor because you weren't in the room to witness it, but it's not really one.

They are related because they were all RFA's that could have signed offer sheets. Someone tried to say we lost him because we waited too long to sign him. Well, we waited a bit on both Dach and Newhook. And pretty much happens to all RFA's like them with other teams.

My point is waiting to get the best bridge deal on KK was not the issue. The issue was the Aho offer sheet and the Canes wanted revenge. We further complicated our KK situation by miss managing him in his ELC and that opened the door even more for him to sign the offer sheet with the Canes.