Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[SlafySZN]

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Everybody is an armchair GM in some capacity. Slafkovsky had no points in the last 15 games of last year and 2 points in his first 15 this year. I’m not sure what positive is suppose to be taken from that without hindsight.

And honestly… who cares at this point? He’s playing well.

 

[nhlfan9191]

And honestly… who cares at this point? He’s playing well.

Nobody said he wasn’t. It’s just weak when people use hindsight in arguments. Those same people would be going nuts if Slafkovsky didn’t turn it around in anyway and people were using what they didn’t know yet to strengthen their arguments.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Nobody said he wasn’t. It’s just weak when people use hindsight in arguments. Those same people would be going nuts if Slafkovsky didn’t turn it around in anyway and people We’re using what they didn’t know yet to strengthen their arguments.

As I said… who cares at this point? It doesn’t matter.

 

[417]

Everybody is an armchair GM in some capacity. Slafkovsky had no points in the last 15 games of last year and 2 points in his first 15 this year. I’m not sure what positive is suppose to be taken from that without hindsight.

Positivity? No.

Perspective? Yes.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Totally! It's strange to be honest. I've slammed players too. But I definitely don't pick my spots and will admit if I was wrong. And besides, I'm a Habs fan for well over 50 years. I want all our players to do well. Cheers!

The thing is you don't even have to admit you were wrong.

If you said Slaf looked horrible last year and at the beginning of this year, you were 100% correct. But to hang on and still say he looks bad is really weird....

 

[LesCanadiens]

Everybody is an armchair GM in some capacity. Slafkovsky had no points in the last 15 games of last year and 2 points in his first 15 this year. I’m not sure what positive is suppose to be taken from that without hindsight.

Maybe one needed to be paying close attention to what he was actually doing rather than the stat sheet. We told you so. Many, many times. Told you that he was actually developing and progressing. Not his fault he was playing with and setting-up players who couldn't finish. And now your take is proven itself wrong.

Do you think just out of nowhere he pulled Excalibur out of a rock and became awesome? Nope, those of saw this awesomeness emerging all along. And our posts saying so to guys like you ad nauseam have all proved to be right. Personally, I said numerous times in response to your posts, way back since the start when there were no points, that he was on the verge to break out with points, only to be mocked by posters like you. I was right. And you were wrong. End of that story, bud.

If I were you...swallow my pride, bite the bullet, and enjoy the ride this kid is going to take all us fans on.

 

[Miller Time]

Everybody is an armchair GM in some capacity. Slafkovsky had no points in the last 15 games of last year and 2 points in his first 15 this year. I’m not sure what positive is suppose to be taken from that without hindsight.

Didn't take hindsight for some.

Perhaps there's more to assessing a player than looking at the points column

 

[nhlfan9191]

As I said… who cares at this point? It doesn’t matter.

Look at the post below as too why people care. It’s easy to make a smug statement like this poster is making with hindsight. The reality is things did not look good for Slafkovsky early. It’s easy to rewrite history knowing how things turned out.

Maybe one needed to be paying close attention to what he was actually doing rather than the stat sheet. We told you so. Many, many times. Told you that he was actually developing and progressing. Not his fault he was playing with and setting-up players who couldn't finish. And now your take is proven itself wrong.

Do you think just out of nowhere he pulled Excalibur out of a rock and became awesome? Nope, those of saw this awesomeness emerging all along. And our posts saying so to guys like you ad nauseam have all proved to be right. Personally, I said numerous times in response to your posts, way back since the start when there were no points, that he was on the verge to break out with points, only to be mocked by posters like you. I was right. And you were wrong. End of that story, bud.

If I were you...swallow my pride, bite the bullet, and enjoy the ride this kid is going to take all us fans on.

 

[LesCanadiens]

The thing is you don't even have to admit you were wrong.

If you said Slaf looked horrible last year and at the beginning of this year, you were 100% correct. But to hang on and still say he looks bad is really weird....

That's up for debate. I always thought those were broad, and not wholly accurate statements. I always said he had his ups and downs, but the signs of what to come were clearly there right from the start. So sure, in those terms, he looked awful AT TIMES. But also showed what his game would end up being. That is par for the course for a then 18 and now 19 year old. I think people just plain overreacted. Imagine that, Hab fans overreacting. But I do agree with the gist of what you said, for sure.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Hard to believe he's only 19. There's a lot of development remaining before we see a finished product. I don't see him reaching his peak until ~25.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

The thing is you don't even have to admit you were wrong.

If you said Slaf looked horrible last year and at the beginning of this year, you were 100% correct. But to hang on and still say he looks bad is really weird....

No doubt he looked lost at the end of last year and way out of place to start this season. So glad they moved him up. From that moment on his game took a big jump. And he’s improved seemingly game after game since.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Hard to believe he's only 19. There's a lot of development remaining before we see a finished product. I don't see him reaching his peak until ~25.

Very curious what his ceiling is.

Nice thing with the core is that by the time Slaf is 25, Cole will be 28-29 and Suzuki 29-30 all of whom will be under contract still.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Look at the post below as too why people care. It’s easy to make a smug statement like this poster is making with hindsight. The reality is things did not look good for Slafkovsky early. It’s easy to rewrite history knowing how things turned out.

You said he looked bad, which he did, but maybe hung on to that for a few weeks too long. now he looks good right? Thats the end of the story as far as I'm concerned.

 

[LesCanadiens]

Look at the post below as too why people care. It’s easy to make a smug statement like this poster is making with hindsight. The reality is things did not look good for Slafkovsky early. It’s easy to rewrite history knowing how things turned out.

Say what? With hindsight? Errrrr, no. Good luck in finding any of my old posts that were "rewriting history". That is what I've said from the start dude. So now you're making stuff up. That is not honorable or honest. And I don't associate with dishonorable and dishonest people in my personal life. And I won't comprise integrity here to some anon internet dude. So, see ya.

 

[Frank Drebin]

No doubt he looked lost at the end of last year and way out of place to start this season. So glad they moved him up. From that moment on his game took a big jump. And he’s improved seemingly game after game since.

Yeah it was funny you mentioned moving him up to the top line more of a "why not" type of thing and I was thinking "why - he looks terrible" and really since then he just took off.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Look at the post below as too why people care. It’s easy to make a smug statement like this poster is making with hindsight. The reality is things did not look good for Slafkovsky early. It’s easy to rewrite history knowing how things turned out.

I… just don’t care.

As I wrote, totally agree with the fact that he looked lost at different points. End of the day though it really doesn’t matter.

He’s playing well and improving. He’s so early in his career. There will be more peaks and valleys. Just enjoy the ride.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Yeah it was funny you mentioned moving him up to the top line more of a "why not" type of thing and I was thinking "why - he looks terrible" and really since then he just took off.

We tried everyone else…

 

[nhlfan9191]

You said he looked bad, which he did, but maybe hung on to that for a few weeks too long. now he looks good right? Thats the end of the story as far as I'm concerned.

I’m not really regretting anything I said. I’m happy he turned it around. But there was a pretty lengthy stretch where he was abysmal. I have no problem with posters who remained positive but when they start pretending they were seeing something that others weren’t, then start trying to weaponize that in arguments, it’s hard not to take a shot back.

 

[LesCanadiens]

Very curious what his ceiling is.

Nice thing with the core is that by the time Slaf is 25, Cole will be 28-29 and Suzuki 29-30 all of whom will be under contract still.

90 points wouldn't shock me. You did say ceiling. I challenge anyone to reasons why that's far-fetched. 40-50 or 35-55. Once he realizes he can score almost at will on the PP just by planting himself on the goalies doorstep, ala Tim Kerr, the sky is the ceiling.

 

[rahad]

Only one side of this debate seems to be full of personal attacks. It isn’t and hasn’t come from those who dared to questions managements development approach.

Slaf has improved tremendously, as a Habs fan this is all that matters. The little potshots directed at posters with a different opinion are what drags this board down.

100%%%

People have different opinion. I honestly believed Slaf could have learn a lot playing in the AHL (20 Mins+). Happy to be wrong. But for x reason.
Saying Slaf should play in the AHL (based on his first 15 games) = being a Slaf Hater....

We all want him to success. It would be absurd to come to this thread every day and hate a on 19 years kid...

 

[LesCanadiens]

I’m not really regretting anything I said. I’m happy he turned it around. But there was a pretty lengthy stretch where he was abysmal. I have no problem with posters who remained positive but when they start pretending they were seeing something that others weren’t, then start trying to weaponize that in arguments, it’s hard not to take a shot back.

You're passive-aggressively referring to me. Calling me a liar. I'll humor myself and post screenshots of me saying I was seeing this...as were some others...so not singling myself out only. Tough to debate with someone who's not being honest. And in this convo, that is you, not me. Once I do that, I'll be done with you on this board. Not worth my energy or time. I love debate, I despise dishonest debate.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Only one side of this debate seems to be full of personal attacks. It isn’t and hasn’t come from those who dared to questions managements development approach.

Slaf has improved tremendously, as a Habs fan this is all that matters. The little potshots directed at posters with a different opinion are what drags this board down.

I agree with you, but lets not forget how obnoxious and condescending this board can get when it comes to attacking players. What goes around comes around

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Clueless armchair analysts posting pure BS is what drags this board down.

If only everyone had the insight of Jaaanosik, am I right?

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I agree with you, but lets not forget how obnoxious and condescending this board can get when it comes to attacking players. What goes around comes around

This board has attacked players with mental health issues. Some of them are same ones that attack posters for having a different opinion.

I’m not surprised by anything here.