Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

Where would you prefer Slaf spend his 23-24 season?


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Leon Lucius Black

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Kirby Dach has played more overtime minutes this season than Slafkovsky.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

That is crazy considering how shitty our forwards are after our first line.

The only time I remember Slafkovsky in overtime was in one of our recent games he was put out with like 20 seconds left and made a good defensive play then drew a penalty in the other end.
 

le_sean

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You do know our overtime records is better than our regular season records? He'll get there, but he needs to be fully responsible to be played in overtime and that level is getting there. This is coming after we sell at the deadline, no impact on evaluations then.
You do know Kirby Dach hasn’t played since Game 2 of the season? It’s pathetic. Evans has triple the OT TOI. Has he helped the team win 3 on 3?

The goal should be development, not trying your hardest not to lose so you put the most vanilla players out.

There’s been like 15 OT games since Kirby got hurt. To put him above Dach it would only take like a single 15 second shift in each OT. Is that really going to kill the team? It’s stupid coaching.
 
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SOLR

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You do know Kirby Dach hasn’t played since Game 2 of the season? It’s pathetic. Evans has triple the OT TOI. Has he helped the team win 3 on 3?

The goal should be development, not trying your hardest not to lose so you put the most vanilla players out.

There’s been like 15 OT games since Kirby got hurt. To put him above Dach it would only take like a single 15 second shift in each OT. Is that really going to kill the team? It’s stupid coaching.

You can't both say he's improving tremendously and complain about the coaching. If he's improving, they are doing something good, and they might know something you don't about overtime usage patterns.

And yes, Evans did help win some games early in the year and in many other years. He's a fast 2-way center, and that's pretty good to have 3v3. Besides, Slaf isn't competing with Dach or Evans, so the argument is weird. What WINGER should Slaf be ahead of?

Monahan
Anderson
Gallagher
?

Slaf will get some time later in the year after we sell and the season is "over".
 
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le_sean

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You can't both say he's improving tremendously and complain about the coaching. If he's improving, they are doing something good, and they might know something you don't about overtime usage patterns.

And yes, Evans did help win some games early in the year and in many other years. He's a fast 2-way center, and that's pretty good to have 3v3. Besides, Slaf isn't competing with Dach or Evans, so the argument is weird. What WINGER should Slaf be ahead of?

Monahan
Anderson
Gallagher
?

Slaf will get some time later in the year after we sell and the season is "over".
Yeah I can complain about Marty since his improvement is thanks to the skills coach Adam Nicholas who he spends vast amounts of 1 on 1 with.

And no, Evans has 0 OT points this year, so he hasn’t helped the team win. He has 1 OT point in his CAREER and that was in 2020-21.

Anderson is dogshit and kept getting force fed OT minutes when he had ZERO goals on the season. He’s the kid from Mighty Ducks that skates fast and can’t stop. And guess what, he has a total of ZERO OT points since 2017-18. Yeah, we definitely need to see him out there.

Monahan isn’t good and is too slow for 3v3. Another player who has ZERO OT points this year despite playing a total of 22 minutes. Should that be rewarded?

Gallagher doesn’t play OT, so not sure why you bring him up.

But let’s sit our 1st overall pick in OT for these “legends” since he has to “earn it”. I’m sure Marty will invent another idiotic platitude that people will gobble up.
 

nhlfan9191

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Yeah I can complain about Marty since his improvement is thanks to the skills coach Adam Nicholas who he spends vast amounts of 1 on 1 with.

And no, Evans has 0 OT points this year, so he hasn’t helped the team win. He has 1 OT point in his CAREER and that was in 2020-21.

Anderson is dogshit and kept getting force fed OT minutes when he had ZERO goals on the season. He’s the kid from Mighty Ducks that skates fast and can’t stop. And guess what, he has a total of ZERO OT points since 2017-18. Yeah, we definitely need to see him out there.

Monahan isn’t good and is too slow for 3v3. Another player who has ZERO OT points this year despite playing a total of 22 minutes. Should that be rewarded?

Gallagher doesn’t play OT, so not sure why you bring him up.

But let’s sit our 1st overall pick in OT for these “legends” since he has to “earn it”. I’m sure Marty will invent another idiotic platitude that people will gobble up.
The only rational thing I can think of with the 3 on 3 usage at this point is they’re seeing something that we aren’t when they’re running drills that make him less effective in those situations or even make him a liability. But I don’t understand why in a season like this where there’s so many OT games that they aren’t at least experimenting.
 

le_sean

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The only rational thing I can think of with the 3 on 3 usage at this point is they’re seeing something that we aren’t when they’re running drills that make him less effective in those situations or even make him a liability. But I don’t understand why in a season like this where there’s so many OT games that they aren’t at least experimenting.
Yeah I’d be throwing out him and Ylonen instead of guys like Evans and Anderson.
 
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The only rational thing I can think of with the 3 on 3 usage at this point is they’re seeing something that we aren’t when they’re running drills that make him less effective in those situations or even make him a liability. But I don’t understand why in a season like this where there’s so many OT games that they aren’t at least experimenting.
Because they know he doesn’t shoot.
 

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He’s as responsible as Caufield and Suzuki. And brings more offense than guys like Evans it’s not even a question…

But yeah, MSL has his plan with him even if we argue about the decisions.
You really, really have to stop hating on Suzuki to prop up Cole and Slaf.

No, Slaf isn't as responsible as Suzuki, thats ridiculous.

He should play in OT but come on.
 

SlafySZN

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You really, really have to stop hating on Suzuki to prop up Cole and Slaf.

No, Slaf isn't as responsible as Suzuki, thats ridiculous.

He should play in OT but come on.
How is that hate?

If anything it’s a compliment to Suzuki.

You said it yourself, he should play OT and him not being ‘’responsible’’ enough shouldn’t be a good reason to, because he is.
 
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Mrb1p

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How is that hate?

If anything it’s a compliment to Suzuki.

You said it yourself, he should play OT and him not being ‘’responsible’’ enough shouldn’t be a good reason to, because he is responsible.
Because you're comparing him to a struggling rookie, pretty much. Suzukis one of the better top line C defensively. Not the same stratosphere. It's like saying Galchenyuk was as good as Plekanec in his D+2.
 

jrom

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He is not as responsible as Suzuki, that's nonsense.

Then in overtime, you have duos of 1 responsible, 1 non-responsible high offense - that's why Caufield is getting the reps.

I'm not sure Slaf brings more offense than the others non-responsible high-offense assets - yet. It's coming.

There is something to be said about tactical knowledge comprehension at 3v3 (it's another system), it's not a big hill but it's ANOTHER hill for a 19 years old - we don't have to push him in every direction at the rate he's improving right now. It's coming.

Agreed, l like Slaf but when he has the puck in the D zone it shows that zone transitions are still a work in progress.
 

BehindTheTimes

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How rich. Go back and read the old posts. I sleep quite well at night, thank you. Those of us who were positive about Slaf all along were flamed (or "potshots" as you call it) on a daily basis. Not only here, but everywhere on social media. They earned their plate of crow. Thanks for your opinion just the same.
We were in different threads if this is what you truly believe.
 

LesCanadiens

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It would be so much easier if they just put out there that they got it wrong and joined the excitement. Instead they triple down and pivot their arguments. It's uncomfortable to see at times.
Totally! It's strange to be honest. I've slammed players too. But I definitely don't pick my spots and will admit if I was wrong. And besides, I'm a Habs fan for well over 50 years. I want all our players to do well. Cheers!
 

LesCanadiens

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We were in different threads if this is what you truly believe.

Well, it's not what I "believe" like it's the tooth fairy or something. Some were overt in their flaming, some used weasel words to thinly veil their flaming. Delusional was one such word. And lots of those childish mocking LOL "like" emoticons whenever anyone pointed out anything positive. And when Slaf started to play better, some of them deleted their posts. But besides, my point wasn't aimed at you.

You indeed did focus on the "he should be in the AHL" narrative as opposed to the "he's a bust", "worst 1OA ever" narrative that was accompanied by said mocking and flaming anyone who pointed out the positives. But I do recall you liking a lot of those kinds of posts. Fair enough. That's your prerogative, man. Fill your boots. At least you're still here. 2-3 I won't mention have disappeared since Slaf has been kicking butt and taking names. To me, that shows they were never really here to debate in good faith. To me that says they were trolling. That's what I meant by that post.

Either way, we're both Habs fans, right? Hope you're happy to have been wrong. I would be.
 

Jaaanosik

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Only one side of this debate seems to be full of personal attacks. It isn’t and hasn’t come from those who dared to questions managements development approach.

Slaf has improved tremendously, as a Habs fan this is all that matters. The little potshots directed at posters with a different opinion are what drags this board down.
Clueless armchair analysts posting pure BS is what drags this board down.
 
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LesCanadiens

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Near the end of the game he was shielding the puck in the corner and no one even attempted to take it from him. Beast.
A 6'3" near 240lb MAN-CHILD, LOL. As I mentioned in the GDT today, imagine 5 years from now @ 24. He'll be unstoppable. And to think he has skill, smarts and decent wheels. And he seems to be a really good kid. Just have to fine-tune that shot for him to be the ultimate BEAST Unicorn player.
 

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It’s fun to watch the things he works on come to light, footage of him taking one timers two weeks ago with Marty and since then you can see himself opening himself up more and has caused more chances on the PP for everyone. Nice second effort on that goal tonight with that reach
 

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He's now completed a full NHL season worth of games.

The last 41 games are much more comforting than the first 41 games, which isn't shocking for me…but what do I know, I just watch basketball.
 

Redux91

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Near the end of the game he was shielding the puck in the corner and no one even attempted to take it from him. Beast.
And that ass is only gonna get BIGGER baby
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nhlfan9191

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Clueless armchair analysts posting pure BS is what drags this board down.
Everybody is an armchair GM in some capacity. Slafkovsky had no points in the last 15 games of last year and 2 points in his first 15 this year. I’m not sure what positive is suppose to be taken from that without hindsight.
 
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