Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[BaseballCoach]

He’s -3, listening to you I assumed it was double digits lol

Yeah, he has 3 MORE goals against than the very high, record-flirting, goals for number.

That's incredible. The ONLY defenceman on that good team with a minus record.

 

[bcv]

Yeah, he has 3 MORE goals against than the very high, record-flirting, goals for number.

That's incredible. The ONLY defenceman on that good team with a minus record.

No, he has 3 more goals against at 5v5 that we have no context to. Him playing a bazillion more minutes than the other dmen probably has nothing to do with it either, right?

How many games have you watched from him this year to be this stubborn with your opinion?

 

[BaseballCoach]

No, he has 3 more goals against at 5v5 that we have no context to. Him playing a bazillion more minutes than the other dmen probably has nothing to do with it either, right?

How many games have you watched from him this year to be this stubborn with your opinion?

Several. I also watched him in international competition It's really not hard or contgroversial to say that his defence is weak. He is a smart kid and kjnows he has to get better to have a real shot at the NHL. No need to vilify me for stating the obvious.

 

[bcv]

Several. I also watched him in international competition It's really not hard or contgroversial to say that his defence is weak. He is a smart kid and kjnows he has to get better to have a real shot at the NHL. No need to vilify me for stating the obvious.

You're not stating the obvious, you're exagerating his issues. You know how I know this? You've provided nothing else but his plus minus to describe him.

 

[BaseballCoach]

You're not stating the obvious, you're exagerating his issues. You know how I know this? You've provided nothing else but his plus minus to describe him.

Does this embarrassing clip need to be dug up again?

https://x.com/SEllisHockey/status/1662516584156463106?s=20

Actual defencemen skate backwards and can easily defend a 2 on 3.

 

[bcv]

Does this embarrassing clip need to be dug up again?

https://x.com/SEllisHockey/status/1662516584156463106?s=20

I'm sure you think this is a mic drop moment for you but once again, you've brought nothing of substance to your argument.

 

[Naslundforever]

Why the ncaa prospect clips in the Slaf thread?

 

[BaseballCoach]

I'm sure you think this is a mic drop moment for you but once again, you've brought nothing of substance to your argument.

Boston College has given up 29 even-strength goals. They have scored 43 ES goals. All their D except Lane are in the plus.

I saw it written that Hutson has been on the ice for 40 percent of his team's even-strength goals (17). If true, then he has been on for 70% of his team's ES goals against (20).

 

[Kennerback]

Let me just remind everyone in here.......

Slaf has always been a work in progress. He was drafted for what the scouting staff believes he can become by age 22. Not where he was at on draft day.

"But, why would we draft a project? First overall's should not be a work in progress and more of a certainty"

I agree with this statement to a point. It depends on the draft class. Our management decided that the risk/reward of drafting and developing Slaf had greater reward then drafting any of the other top 5 from this draft.

As of today......ALL SIGNS ARE POINTING TOWARDS THE RIGHT CALL BEING MADE! It is not a slam dunk but it is trending in the right direction.

If you want to be depressed that there was no Bedard in that draft, feel free. I've mentally blocked that.

Choose to acknowledge we have probably drafted the best player (make it two with Hutson ) from that draft and keep cheering our boys to develop,

We might have done the right choice. It depends if he actually can produce in the NHL. Many are bullish that this will happen because he’s otherwise looking very good. I’ve misjudged so many times that a player could take that next step that I’m very cynical.

 

[Draft]

Boston College has given up 29 even-strength goals. They have scored 43 ES goals. All their D except Lane are in the plus.

I saw it written that Hutson has been on the ice for 40 percent of his team's even-strength goals (17). If true, then he has been on for 70% of his team's ES goals against (20).

To be fair, I think he's averaging over 28mins/game.

 

[Sorinth]

Boston College has given up 29 even-strength goals. They have scored 43 ES goals. All their D except Lane are in the plus.

I saw it written that Hutson has been on the ice for 40 percent of his team's even-strength goals (17). If true, then he has been on for 70% of his team's ES goals against (20).

+/- isn't strictly even strength though, you also get a minus if the opposing teams scores SH for example. There's also empty net goals which can skew things depending on role, a guy who is used to defend a 1 goal lead but isn't out there when you pull your goalie will have the edge in +/- over the player in the opposite role.

So how many empty net goals and short handed goals has his team given up, because that could easily explain something as little as -3.

 

[bcv]

+/- isn't strictly even strength though, you also get a minus if the opposing teams scores SH for example. There's also empty net goals which can skew things depending on role, a guy who is used to defend a 1 goal lead but isn't out there when you pull your goalie will have the edge in +/- over the player in the opposite role.

So how many empty net goals and short handed goals has his team given up, because that could easily explain something as little as -3.

His answer is probably gonna be that Hutson is the reason for those SH and empty net goals.

 

[SergeConstantin74]

 

[bcv]

Boston College has given up 29 even-strength goals. They have scored 43 ES goals. All their D except Lane are in the plus.

I saw it written that Hutson has been on the ice for 40 percent of his team's even-strength goals (17). If true, then he has been on for 70% of his team's ES goals against (20).

So f***ing what? Every goal he's on the ice for is his fault? You can't even elaborate on what makes him bad defensively, you only bring up his +/- all the time.

Also, this is the Slaf thread, I'm done arguing Hutson on here, especially since there's no value in discussing it with you.

 

[Kennerback]

Don’t want to be too difficult but Slaf should have really shot on net on that first 2 on 1. Just saying.

 

[BaseballCoach]

To be fair, I think he's averaging over 28mins/game.

OK, then his percentage of goals scored at ES is not that high, but he is on the ice for goals against more than any other d-man, even on a per minute basis.

Anyway, this is a big waste of time. Just ask Lane Hutson and he will tell you he is working on his defence in order to become a pro, which is all I ever said - that he will need to defend at a minimum of average level to be a blue-chip prospect.

Now let's get back to talking about Slafkovsky in the Slafkovsky thread.

 

[Naslundforever]

OK, then his percentage of goals scored at ES is not that high, but he is on the ice for goals against more than any other d-man, even on a per minute basis.

Anyway, this is a big waste of time. Just ask Lane Hutson and he will tell you he is working on his defence in order to become a pro, which is all I ever said - that he will need to defend at a minimum of averfage level to be a blue-chip prospect.

Now let's get back to talking about Slafkovsky in the Slafkovsky thread.

Also Slafkovsky thread

 

[Goldthorpe]

I agree with this statement to a point. It depends on the draft class. Our management decided that the risk/reward of drafting and developing Slaf had greater reward then drafting any of the other top 5 from this draft.

Hughes made it pretty clear during the habs draft video of that year with statements along "I want the guy with the most upside" and "I'm not looking for the best guy today, but the best guy in a few years", and Slaf fits the bill. He's always been a project - with very high upside - but he may have been rawer than first expected.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

We might have done the right choice. It depends if he actually can produce in the NHL. Many are bullish that this will happen because he’s otherwise looking very good. I’ve misjudged so many times that a player could take that next step that I’m very cynical.

Hughes made it pretty clear during the habs draft video of that year with statements along "I want the guy with the most upside" and "I'm not looking for the best guy today, but the best guy in a few years", and Slaf fits the bill. He's always been a project - with very high upside - but he may have been rawer than first expected.

Imagine if he hit big and we passed on him?

Pass up on that size/skill/skating combo at your own peril. He could be an absolute menace in a few years

 

[River Meadow]

GENIUS.

Know why?

Because Slaf will learn from a scoring beast like Caufield.....

LOVE THIS.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Leave the Hutson talk for the Hutson thread.

 

[crosbyshow]

Best player on he ice again tonight..easy.

 

[Jabba11]

Best player on he ice again tonight..easy.

Dude, easy. Not even close

 

[DAChampion]

Dude, easy. Not even close

Byfield, Doughty, and Talbot for one.

(Three).

 

[Jabba11]

Byfield, Doughty, and Talbot for one.

(Three).

Not even close. Jk, though it was implied that the was the best player on the ice for the Habs hahahaha