Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

Where would you prefer Slaf spend his 23-24 season?


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Tyson

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Is he any good yet or what I haven’t been watching lately
He is becoming a good young player. He has alot to work on like shooting more and releasing his shot quicker but you can tell the game is slowing down for him.

I like the idea of Slaf, Monahan and Ylonen...
I think it's time to put him with Suzuki and Caufield for a good 10 games.
 

BenchBrawl

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One thing for sure you don't trade that guy.

Ride the gamble to the end. His profile is too unique, if he explodes after a trade you'll never find another player like that.
 

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Is he any good yet or what I haven’t been watching lately
Lots of progress on two-way play, getting out of his zone, using his body and paying more attention to his offensive game which is shown by him getting a few points. Enough to be happy about his progress.

However there's his shot... Chad Kilger was 99th percentile for hardest shot while Bedard is under the 50th percentile. Scoring goals is all about the release. Slafkovsky probably has the ugliest release since Derek Boogaard. Plus he goes to never-before-seen extremes not to register shots on net.

But his skating is impressive. His stickhandling and passing are top-notch. He's agressive. He looks like a legit NHL player and would be a top player (even a star) if his shot wasn't such a damn basket case. He needs to work on his shot as much as Roy needed to work on his skating.
 
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"The NHL is not a development league" because most coach would be fired on the spot if they were to put more emphasis on development THAN results.
The Habs on the other hand started the season with 2 Dman with more than 100 games of NHL experience (and they are down to one now) what the hell do you think they are doing here? Hint: it's start with a "D" and end with "evelopment".

We have 82 games to play while icing a team that isn't competitive, that would be a damn shame if we weren't using that time to do development because of some vague trope people decided to take literally.
See, again, development or no development, a guy like Guhle, with his talent, IS amongst the best D we have. So he deserved to be here. Proved it in preseason. And is developing as we see it. NEVER did I say that no players are developing in the NHL. It's a false argument 'cause I've never made it.

The way we build our team....we have to ice 18 players. And we are indeed, as a team, using it as a development tool. Tell me this is the norm for teams now. By definition AHL teams BELONGS to NHL teams. They mostly are also implementing the style they play based on what their NHL counterpart is doing. There first purpose is also to make players ready for the top team. Yes, they also have to bring performance to their team too because they want people to come and see them, hence a few vets added along the way.

If you can't see the difference between those 2 leagues, I don't know what to tell you. Case in point...how GM's and coaches are hired and fired based MOSTLY on performance in the NHL...and MOSTLY on development in the AHL.

One thing for sure you don't trade that guy.

Ride the gamble to the end. His profile is too unique, if he explodes after a trade you'll never find another player like that.
Somebody wants to trade him? I want names.
 
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Well I was talking about the fact that my take on that subject is NOT about Slaf but anybody who isn't an exceptional. Whether you agree or not, it's fine. But you can't come out and say that I reserve that treatment only with Slaf.

Plenty of players did it? If we play that plenty of players game....couldn't I just say that there's are MORE players that are shining that did go through the levels?

Mesar? Sure. I will always have my doubts till-if he reaches the NHL. But it's better to see him gaining his confidence back and hoping he does learn the rest of the game and will bring his renewed confidence to get his game going next year. Having said that.....tell me this....if you are not sure the team has done the right move by sending Mesar down....isn't possible that they didn't do the right move by keeping Slaf? If the pros know best....shouldn't they always?
Mesar situation and the Slaf situations are entirely different.
Roy? Why? Why couldn't he learned faster in the NHL?
There's nowhere for him to play on the Habs right now.

Again, not the same situation
 

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Mesar situation and the Slaf situations are entirely different.

There's nowhere for him to play on the Habs right now.

Again, not the same situation
Why? Mesar and Slaf, both europeans. That need to be acclimatated to North American Hockey. There's actually 2 things that differentiates both players.....Slaf size and where he was picked. I say neither should be enough to put one in the NHL and the other in Juniors.

There's no room for Roy? You mean with Armia and Ylonen in? And sometimes Pezzetta? And with Newhook out...will there be?
 
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Mesar situation and the Slaf situations are entirely different.

There's nowhere for him to play on the Habs right now.

Again, not the same situation
Pretty sure you could interchange Roy and Slafkovsky and you probably wouldn’t be able to tell much of a difference in the teams performance.
 
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Jaynki

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Why? Mesar and Slaf, both europeans. That need to be acclimatated to North American Hockey. There's actually 2 things that differentiates both players.....Slaf size and where he was picked. I say neither should be enough to put one in the NHL and the other in Juniors.

There's no room for Roy? You mean with Armia and Ylonen in? And sometimes Pezzetta? And with Newhook out...will there be?

Ehhh. The major difference between Slaf and Mesar is talent. Not size and where they were picked (although its linked).

That is also the main difference between Slaf and Roy. Talent.

No need to look too far.

Its not about the best development pathways.

One is an NHL talent. The two others are not, at least yet. As simple as that.
 

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I said "The NHL is not a development league" is a vague trope. Not the other way around, so no, I can't elaborate on something I wasn't talking about.
Why do you think it is a vague trope?

Do you often see players developed in the NHL? Only one player from the 2022 draft played in the 22-23 season. What does that tell you?
 
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Sorinth

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Why do you think it is a vague trope?

Do you often see players developed in the NHL? Only one player from the 2022 draft played in the 22-23 season. What does that tell you?
Yes I quite often see players develop while playing in the NHL. In fact I'd argue if you aren't able to develop while playing in the NHL then you probably don't have an NHL future.

And that's why "rushing" prospects can hurt some players. If you bring them up before they are ready for it, then they spend their time in the NHL not developing.
 
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Ehhh. The major difference between Slaf and Mesar is talent. Not size and where they were picked (although its linked).

That is also the main difference between Slaf and Roy. Talent.

No need to look too far.

Its not about the best development pathways.

One is an NHL talent. The two others are not, at least yet. As simple as that.
That's funny. Tell me that would have been against the management if they would have put Slaf in the AHL at 18 year old saying that he shouldnt be there, that he already has NHL talent....How in the world would you have known that?
 
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Why? Mesar and Slaf, both europeans. That need to be acclimatated to North American Hockey. There's actually 2 things that differentiates both players.....Slaf size and where he was picked. I say neither should be enough to put one in the NHL and the other in Juniors.
Exactly.
There's no room for Roy? You mean with Armia and Ylonen in? And sometimes Pezzetta? And with Newhook out...will there be?
Yes that's correct…Ylonen barely plays. His time will come.

Pretty sure you could interchange Roy and Slafkovsky and you probably wouldn’t be able to tell much of a difference in the teams performance.
maybe but I don't think Roy had played particula strong lately.

Slafkovaky isn't going to Laval any time soon, time to just accept it lol.
 

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Yes I quite often see players develop while playing in the NHL. In fact I'd argue if you aren't able to develop while playing in the NHL then you probably don't have an NHL future.
You often see 18 year olds in the NHL?
And that's why "rushing" prospects can hurt some players. If you bring them up before they are ready for it, then they spend their time in the NHL not developing.
No disagreement from me here. I don’t think it’s a “vague trope”.
 

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Ehhh. The major difference between Slaf and Mesar is talent. Not size and where they were picked (although its linked).

That is also the main difference between Slaf and Roy. Talent.

No need to look too far.

Its not about the best development pathways.

One is an NHL talent. The two others are not, at least yet. As simple as that.
Nemec just led all devils defensemen in minutes played during his nhl debut with 2 assists. But according to your logic he was not an nhl talent 1 day ago because the devil did not call him up yet and he played almost 80 ahl games?
 
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Jaynki

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Nemec just led all devils defensemen in minutes played during his nhl debut with 2 assists. But according to your logic he was not an nhl talent 1 day ago because the devil did not call him up yet and he played almost 80 ahl games?
NHL talent don't sleep long in the AHL. If he is an NHL talent he won't be sent down again.

According to your logic, there is a lot of NHL talent sleeping in lesser league and NHL organisation are too goof to see them?
 
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NHL talent don't sleep long in the AHL. If he is an NHL talent he won't be sent down again.

According to your logic, there is a lot of NHL talent sleeping in lesser league and NHL organisation are too goof to see them?
Teams send young NHL talent to the AHL all the time to season them if they aren’t getting acceptable minutes or opportunity. Besides what popular belief is around here, burying guys down the line up in the NHL to develop isn’t an ideal strategy for a lot of teams. And not every team with a blue chip prospect has the same luxury we have as a rebuilding team where winning isn’t as big of a concern.
 

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Slaf´s friend and the second overall pick from the 2022 draft Simon Nemec played his first nhl game yesterday.

23 minutes TOI and 12 shot attempts o_O

If only Slaf had the same amount of confidence to shoot...

Also he broke Slaf TOI record in his first game



This just shows how important confidence is in the NHL he was playing his first nhl game and was telling players like Hughes, Meier, Toffoli where to go during the PP.

 
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DAChampion

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Slaf´s friend and the second overall pick from the 2022 draft Simon Nemec played his first nhl game yesterday.

23 minutes TOI and 12 shot attempts o_O

If only Slaf had the same amount of confidence to shoot...

Also he broke Slaf TOI record in his first game

I believe Nemec is a great player but you can't compare a forwards time on ice directly to that of a D. There are three pairs of D and three lines of F.

23/4*3 = 17.25 minutes of ice time.
 
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