Value of: JT Miller to New Jersey Devils

[Stephen Gionta]

What would Vancouver be looking for from NJ in exchange for JT Miller?

My initial offer from NJ would be -
Janne Kuokkanen
2022 2nd round pick
Graeme Clarke
Reilly Walsh

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[Stewie Griffin]

Offer more quality and less quantity. That's a bunch of meh for a borderline point per game player.

 

[Kaen]

Offer more quality and less quantity. That's a bunch of meh for a borderline point per game player.

Not a Canucks fan, but as an outside observer this guy is 100% right

 

[Bobby9]

Can I have your Mercedes?

I have a 98 Corolla, a snowboard with one binding and a set of bent golf clubs.

 

[TrufleShufle]

Can I have your Mercedes?

I have a 98 Corolla, a snowboard with one binding and a set of bent golf clubs.

Lefty or righty golf clubs?

 

[CascadiaPuck]

A RHD (especially for the top 4) is the most pressing need. Trading Miller (or Horvat - or anyone else) needs to address this reality. If it doesn't, don't bother making a proposal involving the Canucks. Period.

 

[Hisch13r]

I mean sure but they aren't taking that. It's awful for them.

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Miller is top 20 in league scoring… can play any forward position in your top 9. He also has 1.5 more seasons left @ $5.25M. Ie anything short of a good return will be declined. We want a top 4 RHD.

 

[Canuck86]

What would Vancouver be looking for from NJ in exchange for JT Miller?

My initial offer from NJ would be -
Janne Kuokkanen
2022 2nd round pick
Graeme Clarke
Reilly Walsh

As a Canuck fan I appreciate your inquiry, but none of what you offered is remotely interesting from my point of view. They all seem to be possible NHL players, if the Devils want JT it is going to cost them something good. Devils have plenty of assets that are better than what you offered in your original proposal.

Pieces of interest after a quick glance are: Severson, Wood, Zacha, Bahl, 2023 1st round pick. I would take Subban back with retention if you took Myers or Poolman...unlikely I know, but for not being a fan of his Myers has been decent this year all things considered

 

[Tempo]

Can people at least put some effort into their proposals and not just post the first thing that came to their mind while taking a dump?

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Can people at least put some effort into their proposals and not just post the first thing that came to their mind while taking a dump?

Post-dump clarity is a thing

 

[DEANYOUNGBLOOD17]

A RHD (especially for the top 4) is the most pressing need. Trading Miller (or Horvat - or anyone else) needs to address this reality. If it doesn't, don't bother making a proposal involving the Canucks. Period.

I thought Benning UFA acquisition of Tucker Poolman and Tyler Myers from the Winnipeg Jets UFA’s……( @ a cost of 8.5 million for the pair per year).

Stop over paying ( almost double what other teams would pay) for Winnipeg Jet retreads for defence help.

on the good news those players are only on the books for 2 (Myers)and 3 (Poolman) more seasons after this current season!

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Any offer would start with Severson

 

[Canuck Luck]

What would Vancouver be looking for from NJ in exchange for JT Miller?

My initial offer from NJ would be -
Janne Kuokkanen
2022 2nd round pick
Graeme Clarke
Reilly Walsh

Classic I want a quality top line player but I don’t want to give anything back of vale up. Combining 4-5 scrap pieces isn’t enough

 

[CascadiaPuck]

I thought Benning UFA acquisition of Tucker Poolman and Tyler Myers from the Winnipeg Jets UFA’s……( @ a cost of 8.5 million for the pair per year).

Stop over paying ( almost double what other teams would pay) for Winnipeg Jet retreads for defence help.

on the good news those players are only on the books for 2 (Myers)and 3 (Poolman) more seasons after this current season!

[shrugs]
Dunk on Benning all you want.

 

[Stephen Gionta]

PSA:

The reason I said "my initial offer" was because that is how trade talks generally go - you offer something lower, they come back with something higher, then you meet in middle.

I see Severson and a 1st rounder coming back as responses.

That to me means one of those assets would be a must.


How about:
Janne Kuokkanen
2022 OR 2023 1st rounder (Top 2 protected)
Subban 50% retained OR Reilly Walsh

 

[HugeInTheShire]

PSA:

The reason I said "my initial offer" was because that is how trade talks generally go - you offer something lower, they come back with something higher, then you meet in middle.

I see Severson and a 1st rounder coming back as responses.

That to me means one of those assets would be a must.


How about:
Janne Kuokkanen
2022 OR 2023 1st rounder (Top 2 protected)
Subban 50% retained OR Reilly Walsh

Adding lesser pieces like Subban isn't going to get it done

Something like

Severson
Kuokkanen
2022 2nd
for
Miller

would be a lot closer, but probably still not enough

 

[SJinNewJersey]

Devs and Canucks aren't good trading partners. What they are looking for to deal Miller we can't afford to give up, Damon Severson. Subban or Walsh isn't going to do it.

 

[sens13]

PSA:

The reason I said "my initial offer" was because that is how trade talks generally go - you offer something lower, they come back with something higher, then you meet in middle.

I see Severson and a 1st rounder coming back as responses.

That to me means one of those assets would be a must.


How about:
Janne Kuokkanen
2022 OR 2023 1st rounder (Top 2 protected)
Subban 50% retained OR Reilly Walsh

lol you offered garbage. if you actually made that offer as nj the canucks would block your number. Your offer clearly screams I am not actually serious in getting this player. When starting trade talks for a ppg winger you should at least offer one good piece than a bunch of garbage.

I wish my team could get a ppg winger for a 3rd liner, a 2nd and some b/c prospects.

Not to mention your second counter would never get accepted either.

Teams will easily offer 1st+ good prospects for 1 and half year of miller. no reason to take cap dumps or meh prospects.

 

[ChicksDigTheTrap]

As a Canuck fan I appreciate your inquiry, but none of what you offered is remotely interesting from my point of view. They all seem to be possible NHL players, if the Devils want JT it is going to cost them something good. Devils have plenty of assets that are better than what you offered in your original proposal.

Pieces of interest after a quick glance are: Severson, Wood, Zacha, Bahl, 2023 1st round pick. I would take Subban back with retention if you took Myers or Poolman...unlikely I know, but for not being a fan of his Myers has been decent this year all things considered

I would think Sevs would be the player the Canucks may have some interest in. As an FYI, Wood may be out the entire year so I doubt he has much trade value at this point.

 

[NJ07102]

Riley Walsh should not be traded, the way he's been playing this season.

 

[Canuck Luck]

PSA:

The reason I said "my initial offer" was because that is how trade talks generally go - you offer something lower, they come back with something higher, then you meet in middle.

I see Severson and a 1st rounder coming back as responses.

That to me means one of those assets would be a must.


How about:
Janne Kuokkanen
2022 OR 2023 1st rounder (Top 2 protected)
Subban 50% retained OR Reilly Walsh

that’s how trades work if you make a somewhat reasonable offer. That’s not how trades work if you’re throwing out the crap you are. Your offers tell the other gm you’re not seriously interested in the player and that they’d be waisting their time negotiating with you as a deal is highly unlikely to be reached.

the response a gm would give you is I appreciate you’re offer but that’s not the kind of package we are looking for and then click you get hung up on

 

[One Winged Angel]

PSA:

The reason I said "my initial offer" was because that is how trade talks generally go - you offer something lower, they come back with something higher, then you meet in middle.

I see Severson and a 1st rounder coming back as responses.

That to me means one of those assets would be a must.


How about:
Janne Kuokkanen
2022 OR 2023 1st rounder (Top 2 protected)
Subban 50% retained OR Reilly Walsh

So you get flamed (and rightfully so) for a shitty proposal and you proceed to double down and comeback with this garbage post?

You shouldn’t have even bothered in the first place, because you were clearly never serious about having any type of reasonable discourse.

What a waste of time.

 

[M2Beezy]

Luke Hughes and two 2nd round picks (or protected top ten 1st) for Miller

 

[Paddys Pub]

I’ll give you an old piece of chewed gum, a pocket full of peanut shells, and the insoles from my old used shoes for a PS5.