Friedman: JT Miller to get the Zibanejad contract?

[Mr Positive]

Seems like a purposeful leak to get fans happy when it is under this number

 

[Bobby9]

You don’t sign him until he repeats this seasons points and play.

If he slows down you add that in to the contract. Signing a player when they’re playing their best and have term left is not wise in this instance

 

[Metroid]

Do it!

 

[BWJM]

I'd resign him in Vancouver if the term is 5 to 6 years.

8.5m for someone who will be 37/38 year by the end is kinda rough.

 

[Mal Reynolds]

JT Miller has been great for three straight seasons, but he is clearly peaking right now.
Which also likely means he's actually a bit of a late-bloomer.

I see him being this good for at least two more seasons, slight drop off for the next two. That's still four years of having an elite talent on your roster, from a guy that does absolutely everything you could expect a key player to do.

Blake Wheeler is a pretty decent comparable, and he's still a near-PPG player at 35.
I have no doubt JT Miller will be right there too - he might be an even more impactful player than Wheeler overall.


If we can somehow fit JT in on a "team-friendly" deal, then it needs to be done. If not, we need to get a haul of picks and prospects back to restock the cupboards. Either way, he's not going to be an anchor for whichever team he's playing for, longterm. Even a slightly overpaid 35 year-old JT Miller is the kind of scrappy, veteran-type player that teams win with.

Lots of good points, agree with most of them

 

[nergish]

You don’t sign him until he repeats this seasons points and play.

If he slows down you add that in to the contract. Signing a player when they’re playing their best and have term left is not wise in this instance

He's been roughly PPG for three straight seasons, and has only improved year over year.
Not advocating signing a 30-year old player to a 6-8 year contract... but he is a legitimate first-line winger in his prime. I'm just not sure Vancouver is close enough to win with him.

One thing's for certain... they're nowhere near close without him.

 

[PuckG]

I hope so. Will be good for Van for 1-3 years, but is likely to age absolutely terribly after that.

 

[Fatass]

WAy too much term for a 30 year old, who isn’t a star.

 

[JKG33]

I mean he deserves it more than Zibanejad did

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

JT Miller is an outstanding player... today. He's probably got another 2-3 years of high level play in him. For a contender on the cusp, he could be the piece that pushes them over the top.

8.5M x 8Y is a recipe for absolute disaster for the Canucks that would set this franchise back for a decade.

I agree. Miller's a hell of a player, and a heartbeat player.

But for a team where we are at in our cycle, what makes sense is to turn him into a good young D, a 1st rounder, and hopefully another middle 6 quality prospect/young unproven player.

8 years of MIller at that money will not serve us.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

It's overpayment. $5-6M is enough.

 

[Luck 6]

Miller is hard to peg down. Using Zibanejad as a comparable, I’d say 8.75mil at 7 years is pretty close. I’d be trying to get him to sign for 9mil at 6 years, but that contract almost seems too good…

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Miller is hard to peg down. Using Zibanejad as a comparable, I’d say 8.75mil at 7 years is pretty close. I’d be trying to get him to sign for 9mil at 6 years, but that contract almost seems too good…

I think a realistic contract would be $8-8.5M for 6-7 years, although $5-6M is ideal.

 

[wonton15]

Inb4 Fletcher trades for him and signs up to 8 years

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Inb4 Fletcher trades for him and signs up to 8 years

No way we're giving up Miller.

 

[Frank Garrett]

Trade Miller to draft Slafkovsky.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Trade Miller to draft Slafkovsky.

I doubt that will happen, since Miller is an established player, and Slafkovsky is an undetermined draftee.

 

[93LEAFS]

He just turned 29, and 30 next yr on old contract. He should not get anywhere near an 8 yr contract. In 3 yrs you will regret it.

That's essentially NHL free agency, and most GM's know if it works out as much as they want in the first 3 years they probably have enough job security to survive the fall-out, and if it completely blows up it will be someone else's problem.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

That's essentially NHL free agency, and most GM's know if it works out as much as they want in the first 3 years they probably have enough job security to survive the fall-out, and if it completely blows up it will be someone else's problem.

8 years is basically a compromise between the player and the team, I think.

 

[Ciao]

This year is an outlier production-wise for this player.​

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I would look to his career numbers and expect some regression to the mean.​

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Most NHL forwards peak much earlier than this, and they don't usually exceed what they did in their early-to-mid 20's later in their careers.​

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Sure, there can always be an exception but I don't know that I would bet so much money on it. You don't have to look to far to see large contracts given out a bit too late.​

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

This year is an outlier production-wise for this player.​

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I would look to his career numbers and expect some regression to the mean.​

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Most NHL forwards peak much earlier than this, and they don't usually exceed what they did in their early-to-mid 20's later in their careers.​

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Sure, there can always be an exception but I don't know that I would bet so much money on it. You don't have to look to far to see large contracts given out a bit too late.​

That's why I say $5-6M for six to seven years is ideal.

 

[Ciao]

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[BB88]

This year is an outlier production-wise for this player.​

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I would look to his career numbers and expect some regression to the mean.​

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Most NHL forwards peak much earlier than this, and they don't usually exceed what they did in their early-to-mid 20's later in their careers.​

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Sure, there can always be an exception but I don't know that I would bet so much money on it. You don't have to look to far to see large contracts given out a bit too late.​

8.5M isn’t superstar money.
You want a top tier UFA? We are looking at 11-13million

The last 3 years for Miller
72 points in 69 games
46 in 53 games
80 points in 66 games.

That’s easily worth 8.5M and would be really good value.
If we let’s say in reality he’d be a versatile ppg player that can play any forward position& special teams.

The issue is/will be the term, at his age 6-8 year deals don’t look fun but Miller has the right to ask for it and someone will pay, someone always does

 

[Holymakinaw]

LOL. Pathetic, if true. I sure Vancouver does it! He'll be 30 next year. It would be a brutal contract for a player having an outlier year, and who is getting old.

 

[Ciao]

8.5M isn’t superstar money.
You want a top tier UFA? We are looking at 11-13million

The last 3 years for Miller
72 points in 69 games
46 in 53 games
80 points in 66 games.

That’s easily worth 8.5M and would be really good value.
If we let’s say in reality he’d be a versatile ppg player that can play any forward position& special teams.

The issue is/will be the term, at his age 6-8 year deals don’t look fun but Miller has the right to ask for it and someone will pay, someone always does

I'm sure he will get what's been reported.

I'm not so sure it's a good investment.