I wouldn't mind trading JT for Erik Karlsson. If the Penguins can retain $2m then the cap space wouldn't increase for us.
Imagine Hughes, Karlsson and Petey together on the PP.
Imagine Hughes, Karlsson and Petey together on the PP.
Player Discussion JT Miller Thread
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It’s worked so well in Pits with Letang and Karlsson so oh yeah great…
AzNightmare
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lol, took me a second. Thought you meant 3D's on the PP.
EK is totally cooked, and we’re better off giving Miller away for nothing.
Nah he's been playing better recently (he just got off to a bad start because he missed the pre-season). Also the coach is limiting his ability a lot (forcing him to play in a way he's not used to and which doesn't take advantage of his skill sets).
If it was 2016-2017 karlsson then yes but his legs are done. after that achilles heel he cant skate like he used to before.
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Noooo. I've been a Karlsson defender in the past, but Father Time has caught up to him.
VAN would be far better off moving JT just for cap space.
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Like I said, we don't know the WHAT so without knowing that, if you are trying to come up with a WHY then you are pushing a narriative even if you claim you are not.
Considering the team nor any insider really published the WHAT, it could be anything, it could be arguing with all the teammates, literally fighting with teammates, beating up training staff, beating up JR in a bathroom and out of all the potential options, you chose him beefing with Tocchet which is fine and then you follow that up with, well if he did beef with Tocchet, he might've done it because of jealousy with Petey which is, well there are also a bunch of other potential reasons that are way more logical if he is beefing with Tocchet such as, he got sat for a game, period. But nope, you also made the conscious decision to say, well it's actually jealously that could be in play. Like I said, your actions don't follow your intentions.
If your intention is not to push a certain narrative, what you wrote certainly did.
For example. I don't believe this myself but there are some posters that can reasonably believe that you are a spineless coward that won't stand behind the posts you made and choose to write things in double speak.
See what I did there?
Speculation doesn't equal "pushing a narrative". "Pushing a narrative" implies you are trying to change how people perceive a set of events or facts. I am not trying to do that. I am just offering my own personal speculation. And this was obvious given the context - i.e., I was replying to a poster that was providing his/her own speculation on the matter. Its ridiculous to suggest that every poster that ever speculates on something is "pushing their narrative".
Again, was just posting my speculation on the matter based on my beliefs. Never did I hold it out as being anything other than speculation or conjecture.
You don't seem to understand what "pushing a narrative" means. Because it really doesn't apply to what I did.
I honestly don't even know what point you are trying to make. You seem angry though.
Yes, I have Karlsson in my hockey pool so try to watch the Pens when I can, and when I watch them I focus on Karlsson. And man, his defense is absolutely terrible. So lackluster and soft. And his skating, which was probably his greater strength, is no longer dynamic. This is not a player that would work well in Tochett's system.
Dude, you can't mistakenly conflate two entirely different concepts and then blame me for not being clear enough. The initial post was quite clear. I never said that his "blow up" was reasonable. You invented that.
And the only reason I need to "clarify" my position is because you and one other poster mischaracterized my position by conflating two concepts.
I'd love to not have to write any posts of this type because they are a waste of time. And its pretty clear you mischaracterized my initial post. Anyone can go back and review my post.
There was no hypocrisy in how I weighed evidence. And I already told you why I preferred some evidence to other evidence. And my preferences were in line with settled evidence law. And even after this you are still going on about a hypocrisy? Like, at the very least, even if you disagree with how I am weighing the evidence, you should at least abandon your argument that I am a hypocritic as I have provided reasonable reasons for my preferences in the evidence.
I don't really feel strongly either way. I said that his frustration was probably reasonable in that other players who played poorly weren't benched and publicly embarrassed in the same way. But immediately after saying that I recognized that the other player situations were admittedly different since I didn't think they were continually ignoring instructions from the coaching staff.
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To be clear, and I've said this so many times, I don't like Miller's personality. I think he's a bozo. And I far prefer Pettersson's personality. I don't mind his introverted more stoic personality, and I've never criticized him for that or for not showing enough emotions. I was a huge Pettersson fan and was thrilled when we drafted him. Following him closing in the SHL and immediately traded for him in my fantasy hockey pool in his rookie season.
The narrative that you are pushing that I prefer Miller is hilarious and demonstrably false. The only reason why I have posted more regarding Pettersson than Miller is because Pettersson has been playing poorly for like a calendar year, whereas Miller's struggles are comparatively much shorter. And of course him becoming a bozo again only really occurred, or was rumoured, from an since the LOA.
it is when you are like the one of two people "speculating" it.
"Pushing a narrative" has a quasi accepted meaning. Just google it. Pushing a narrative does not equal speculation. I think you are misusing the term but, anyway, I think we can both agree this is a dumb argument so let's move on.
Between this and his Cloud 9 suite for kids at the Rog, we're going to lose a good dude.
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He is still a 99 percentile skater and mid 90 percentile shot generator. Play him with Hughes at ES and in Boeser's spot on the PP. All ozone all the time. It would at least be entertaining.
He's not a 99% skater anymore. Not even close. This is just categorically false. He can barely skate backwards and can't defend the rush at all.
He certainly would be entertaining in a way...with all the high-danger chances going against.
This is what the Shark and Penguins thought when they acquired Karlsson. Imagine pairing Karlsson with [insert name]. The team will always play with the puck. Doesn't work that way.
