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Prospect Info: Joshua Roy

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Lafleurs Guy said:
I'm not expecting him to be a 50 goal guy in the NHL. But I do think he can be a really good top six player.
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He always projected as a 3rd line player who step up in playoffs if we are 100% honest. He could develop as a 2nd line player but it would be a surprise.

Reading the post of the last 2-3 weeks someone would believe Roy is 27 years old and drafted 1st overall.
 
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LaP said:
He always projected as a 3rd line player who step up in playoffs if we are 100% honest. He could develop as a 2nd line player but it would be a surprise.

Reading the post of the last 2-3 weeks someone would believe Roy is 27 years old and drafted 1st overall.
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I think on the 2nd line with Newhook and Dach you could expect around 40 points. I don’t think that’s pie in the sky stuff.
 
McGees said:
Only one of those 3 is a real top 6 right now.
The others may be one day. But they aren't right now.
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Dach and Newhook will prove it this year. Provided of course they don't get hurt in game one and miss 81 games... (I can't believe I have to make this a caveat but given the injuries we've had, it seems prudent. :) )

I don't like Armia there. Anderson we can hope for the best. But Roy is the best guy to put there in my view. We're not making the playoffs and it would be a good year to do this. But - I have zero problem with him being sent down. That was probably the right call.

I also agree with others who've suggested we may see some mixing and matching. CC with Dach could happen this year. Slaf was great with Dach in the short period they were together so we may see that. It'll be interesting to watch the lines this year I think they'll be fluid.
 
McGees said:
Only one of those 3 is a real top 6 right now.
The others may be one day. But they aren't right now.
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Without Laine they only have 4 top 6 forwards.

Newhook is an ok bottom six but everyone else (with exception of Hein and Kap - just breaking in) are just scrubs.
 
Catanddogguitarrr said:
Nobody said a lock on the 2nd, some might say he would fit or think, or suggest his name or what they see his progression might become, etc. They had in mind his good games and were expecting Roy could progress even more. It's like the half empty glass of water or half full. Those who like him see half full, those who, etc. The other options on 2nd line are not that great either, nhl teams are not Utica Comets, lol.

Not a lock but a future one.
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Oh, but they did.
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
I don't think anyone thought he was a lock. People said that's where he SHOULD be - on the 2nd line.

Win the calder? No. Place in Calder? Absolutely.
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If you don't think anyone thought that have a read and see what was said, plenty of stuff around. Even a thread title is very telling.
interestingly odd enough is that there seems to be a bout of fugue suddenly going around or perhaps its that those that reside in the dankness under the bridge that use a puddle for a mirror aren't getting the news, a real head scratchier.

Besides Roy, which other forward prospect makes the team?
 
LaP said:
He always projected as a 3rd line player who step up in playoffs if we are 100% honest. He could develop as a 2nd line player but it would be a surprise.

Reading the post of the last 2-3 weeks someone would believe Roy is 27 years old and drafted 1st overall.
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Roy needs to move his feet and he seems like a guy who needs to be reminded he has to move his feet.
There is possibly a third line role for him once we can move some of the dead wood.
I think our management group wants him working from the Dzone out and when he is making blatant mistakes like the ones we saw they don't see a fit.
As a third liner though he'll have some heavy competition to beat out once we have a full compliment of players.
 
habbubba said:
If you don't think anyone thought that have a read and see what was said, plenty of stuff around. Even a thread title is very telling.
interestingly odd enough is that there seems to be a bout of fugue suddenly going around or perhaps its that those that reside in the dankness under the bridge that use a puddle for a mirror aren't getting the news, a real head scratchier.

Besides Roy, which other forward prospect makes the team?
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You’re talking about two different things and you’ve now changed the question from what you were originally arguing. A lock for the second line is different than a lock to make the team.

The lineup spot was his to lose and he lost it. Yes, I think everyone assumed he’d be on the roster that’s absolutely true. Second line though? That’s where I was hoping he’d be used but that wasn’t a lock at all. It’s where many of us hoped he’d be used because we felt it made the most sense. But MSL is old school and gives vets first crack. Then apart from that, Laine was added and that opportunity went away - until he got hurt.

Bottom line is that Roy blew his spot in camp. It was his to lose.
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
You’re talking about two different things and you’ve now changed the question from what you were originally arguing. A lock for the second line is different than a lock to make the team.

The lineup spot was his to lose and he lost it. Yes, I think everyone assumed he’d be on the roster that’s absolutely true. Second line though? That’s where I was hoping he’d be used but that wasn’t a lock at all. It’s where many of us hoped he’d be used because we felt it made the most sense. But MSL is old school and gives vets first crack. Then apart from that, Laine was added and that opportunity went away - until he got hurt.

Bottom line is that Roy blew his spot in camp. It was his to lose.
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Has the media talked to him, any idea on what his reaction was going to Laval.............his reaction and performance will be watched very closely.
He holds the key to getting back as soon as possible,
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
You’re talking about two different things and you’ve now changed the question from what you were originally arguing. A lock for the second line is different than a lock to make the team.

The lineup spot was his to lose and he lost it. Yes, I think everyone assumed he’d be on the roster that’s absolutely true. Second line though? That’s where I was hoping he’d be used but that wasn’t a lock at all. It’s where many of us hoped he’d be used because we felt it made the most sense. But MSL is old school and gives vets first crack. Then apart from that, Laine was added and that opportunity went away - until he got hurt.

Bottom line is that Roy blew his spot in camp. It was his to lose.
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Again you know what was said. You know damn well that Roy was talked about being a lock on the team, and many had him penciled in in the top 6. If you're that oblivious and unable to digest and condense,sorry for your shortcomings and you can spin shit as you like. I'm not arguing or debating someones lack of comprehension,simply presenting what was said.it's all there to for everyone to see. I know you know it but it appears you're just one of those type of people. Salut, a la prochaine.
 
habbubba said:
Again you know what was said. You know damn well that Roy was talked about being a lock on the team,
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I’ve already told you that most assumed he’d be on the team. It was his spot to lose for sure.

But that wasnt the argument you replied to.
See posts 1065 and 1068.
habbubba said:
and many had him penciled in in the top 6.
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I and many others argued long and hard that he was the right guy for that spot and I still believe he’d put up 40 points there if used. That doesn’t mean anyone said he was a lock to start there.

Two different things and it’s different from your original argument.
habbubba said:
If you're that oblivious and unable to digest and condense,sorry for your shortcomings and you can spin shit as you like.
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You replied to a poster who said Roy wasn’t a lock for the second. Then you distorted what @Catanddogguitarrr said. I don’t know if it was intentional or not but being a lock for the team vs the second line are two different things. Go back and read it yourself. It’s there for all to see. Posts 1065 & 1068.

In closing, yes most people felt he’d make the team. His spot to lose and he did. That’s true for sure.

Many felt he’d be our best option for the top six and gave arguments why.

I don’t remember ANYONE saying he was a lock for the top six. Maybe that’s false. By all means find those posts if you wish. I don’t remember anyone saying it though.
 
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BLONG7 said:
Has the media talked to him, any idea on what his reaction was going to Laval.............his reaction and performance will be watched very closely.
He holds the key to getting back as soon as possible,
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Media a little bit but the message to Roy, Mailloux, Engstrom etc. was.. take tonight, be disappointed, reflect, and come in the next day ready to work.

By all accounts, that's what they did.
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
I’ve already told you that most assumed he’d be on the team. It was his spot to lose for sure.

But that wasnt the argument you replied to.
See posts 1065 and 1068.

I and many others argued long and hard that he was the right guy for that spot and I still believe he’d put up 40 points there if used. That doesn’t mean anyone said he was a lock to start there.

Two different things and it’s different from your original argument.

You replied to a poster who said Roy wasn’t a lock for the second. Then you distorted what @Catanddogguitarrr said. I don’t know if it was intentional or not but being a lock for the team vs the second line are two different things. Go back and read it yourself. It’s there for all to see. Posts 1065 & 1068.

In closing, yes most people felt he’d make the team. His spot to lose and he did. That’s true for sure.

Many felt he’d be our best option for the top six and gave arguments why.

I don’t remember ANYONE saying he was a lock for the top six. Maybe that’s false. By all means find those posts if you wish. I don’t remember anyone saying it though.
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Good for you for clearly demonstrating what was suspected all along and I've moved. You have to be just playing around having some fun right? or else think of the alternative, not into that and you'll just have to find your fun just playing with yourself.
 
habbubba said:
Again you know what was said. You know damn well that Roy was talked about being a lock on the team, and many had him penciled in in the top 6. If you're that oblivious and unable to digest and condense,sorry for your shortcomings and you can spin shit as you like. I'm not arguing or debating someones lack of comprehension,simply presenting what was said.it's all there to for everyone to see. I know you know it but it appears you're just one of those type of people. Salut, a la prochaine.
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Oh, I remember fondly being told we don't need Laine, he is just a depth guy because we have Roy. Many on here anointed him to the second line.

Like I said then, a 2nd line of Roy, Dach, and Newhook is garbage. Roy and Newhook are bottom 6 guys right now, shit, Roy isn't even an NHLer, lol. Dach, who knows what he is, he needs more time to get his game back.
 
Habby4Life said:
Oh, I remember fondly being told we don't need Laine, he is just a depth guy because we have Roy. Many on here anointed him to the second line.
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Cool. Find those posts and put them here.

As far as I can remember, nobody said he was a lock for the second line. Many (including me) said he was the best choice for the second and should be used there. And I think most of us still feel that way but I won’t speak for any individual poster.
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
Cool. Find those posts and put them here.

As far as I can remember, nobody said he was a lock for the second line. Many (including me) said he was the best choice for the second and should be used there. And I think most of us still feel that way but I won’t speak for any individual poster.
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You said Laine was just a depth guy. Go search your own posts.
 
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Habby4Life said:
Oh, I remember fondly being told we don't need Laine, he is just a depth guy because we have Roy. Many on here anointed him to the second line.
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Don't remember a single soul saying that.

I remember people questionning Laine's attitude and/or mental health which was fair. But don't recall anybody pretending we did not need his skills.
 
LaP said:
Don't remember a single soul saying that.

I remember people questionning Laine's attitude and/or mental health which was fair. But don't recall anybody pretending we did not need his skills.
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To refresh your memory, just check out the trade proposal thread, start around pg 127.

Lafleurs Guy said:
At best Laine gives us what we already have.

At worst, he’s a a huge distraction who costs us assets and disrupts the rebuild.

Again, not wholly against adding someone but it has to make sense.

If we decide that we need more forwards (and I really don’t think we do) then go all in on a power forward for a dimension we don’t have. That makes more sense.

Again though, the Canadiens should be thinking long term. Does Laine get us closer to a cup? I don’t think he does. He might help in the short term but I don’t really care much about that.
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ReHabs said:
Unlike us, we have a ton of talent up front. We have Joshua Roy and Alex Newhook. No need for another forward. The goals will come.
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