Recalled/Assigned: Joshua Roy recalled from the Laval Rocket (Sent down 2024-12-02)

OneSharpMarble

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I love the guy.

But him on the second line was nuts. And putting a player like Roy with him makes no sense.
It's not nuts, you reward effort and other players take notice. Evans is not a sexy pick but at the end of the day you go with the guys who give it all. Evans creates chances through effort, put Roy with him and maybe Roy will do the same.
 

Lafleurs Guy

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It's not nuts, you reward effort and other players take notice.
I heard this same stuff when we had Therrien. “He has to earn it” is the dumbest shit.

We put CC with Nick and he produced. We put Slaf with them and he produced…

If you want skilled players to develop then play them with other skilled players.
Evans is not a sexy pick but at the end of the day you go with the guys who give it all. Evans creates chances through effort, put Roy with him and maybe Roy will do the same.
Roy and Evans makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
 
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Lafleurs Guy

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I appreciate Evans because he plays hard every shift. He and Gallagher are the only vets setting the example.


Who should play 2nd line center currently then?
Stick Dach there. Give him Salf and CC. Give it 20 games and see what happens. If it sucks then you move on altogether.

Give Nick Roy and Laine.
 

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Stick Dach there. Give him Salf and CC. Give it 20 games and see what happens. If it sucks then you move on altogether.

Give Nick Roy and Laine.
You really think giving Dach 20 more games will help him? What about the possible damage he does to Slaf when Slaf has one goal in 38 games?
 

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I have to admit I find many of the personnel decisions made this season as disjointed as the play.
There’s just no point to it. There’s no further injuries. They’re still rebuilding. They’ve seen Roy already. It’s already the second youngest team in the league. It’s a losing environment while Laval is a winning one. They didn’t even use him effectively. I’d love to know the reasoning behind this. Pezz gives his all every time and hasn’t played in a month. The up and down crap does absolutely nothing for the big club right now and it hurts Laval.
I’d like at least one good, winning, playoff team this year please.
 

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You really think giving Dach 20 more games will help him? What about the possible damage he does to Slaf when Slaf has one goal in 38 games?
I think it will help us.

This is his make it or break it year. Give him the job. Give him our best wingers and give him the time to produce. If he does it… great. If not, get a legit number two center.

The season is a write off. Use it to evaluate what you have. Same thing for Laine and Roy. They’d be with our best Center. Let’s see how they do with Nick.

Give these guys every opportunity.
 
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Tyson

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I think it will help us.

This is his make it or break it year. Give him the job. Give him our best wingers and give him the time to produce. If he does it… great. If not, get a legit number two center.

The season is a write off. Use it to evaluate what you have. Same thing for Laine and Roy. They’d be with our best Center. Let’s see how they do with Nick.

Give these guys every opportunity.
Your reasoning is sound but I am in the corner that Dach is a bust. I hope I am wrong
 

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I appreciate Evans because he plays hard every shift. He and Gallagher are the only vets setting the example.


Who should play 2nd line center currently then?
Evans has played his way into a contract extension, but who knows if he wants to stay

I do remember reports before the season started that he knew there wasn't room for him long term and was expecting to move on
 
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Lafleurs Guy

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Your reasoning is sound but I am in the corner that Dach is a bust. I hope I am wrong
He looked so great before. Now the whole team has tanked.

Maybe’s he’ll never be what we hoped. Maybe the injuries have ruined him. Give him the job and let’s see. We have nothing to lose. If he tanks, then we know we gave him every opportunity and he didn’t produce.
 
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Habby4Life

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There's a reason the Black Hawks gave up on such a young player.
He’s lazy, that’s why.

His injury has nothing to do with his compete level. On the OT goal he stopped skating and just stuck out his stick. He doesn’t work hard when the puck isn’t on his stick.
 

26Mats

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Your reasoning is sound but I am in the corner that Dach is a bust. I hope I am wrong
Did you think Dach was a bust pre-injury?

I liked his game pre-injury. So I want to see if he can get it back next season, even if this season is list. Koivu, it seems, never was the same offensively after his knee injury. But he had other good characteristics.
 

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There's a video of Dach, when playing for the Black Hawks, being turned inside out by Makar in overtime that led to the winning goal. Makar has the ability to embarrass most NHL players. But the 'woodiness' of Dach's skating set off alarms for this writer. That being said, and having had surgery on both knees, I'm prepared to cut this young player some slack. But the reality is, Dach has a history of fragility and his recent major knee surgery can only be regarded as an exacerbation of this player's mobility limitations.
 

Lafleurs Guy

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There's a video of Dach, when playing for the Black Hawks, being turned inside out by Makar in overtime that led to the winning goal. Makar has the ability to embarrass most NHL players. But the 'woodiness' of Dach's skating set off alarms for this writer. That being said, and having had surgery on both knees, I'm prepared to cut this young player some slack. But the reality is, Dach has a history of fragility and his recent major knee surgery can only be regarded as an exacerbation of this player's mobility limitations.
Who cares about Makar? I mean you can find Lemieux making Bourque look like a clown on multiple clips , including his very first NHL goal I believe. Every player looks bad sometimes.

As for cutting him slack, I think we can stay patient with him while searching for another 2nd line center. We clearly don’t trust him in the role and if we’re not using him there then get someone else.

We don’t have to dump Dach but it’s clear we shouldn’t be depending on him.
 

ChesterNimitz

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Who cares about Makar? I mean you can find Lemieux making Bourque look like a clown on multiple clips , including his very first NHL goal I believe. Every player looks bad sometimes.

As for cutting him slack, I think we can stay patient with him while searching for another 2nd line center. We clearly don’t trust him in the role and if we’re not using him there then get someone else.

We don’t have to dump Dach but it’s clear we shouldn’t be depending on him.
If it was only a case of 'sometimes' with respect to Dach, I would be less concerned. But we're now 25% through the current season. I would argue that the 'bad Dach' has far exceeded the "good Dach" so far. In fact, I'm trying to remember the times we actually saw the "good Dach". But if Dach's poor level of play and lack of production continues to extend pass the end of the current calendar year, it may be time to re-assess our viewing Dach as a certain top 6 player for this team going forward.
 

Lafleurs Guy

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If it was only a case of 'sometimes' with respect to Dach, I would be less concerned. But we're now 25% through the current season. I would argue that the 'bad Dach' has far exceeded the "good Dach" so far. In fact, I'm trying to remember the times we actually saw the "good Dach". But if Dach's poor level of play and lack of production continues to extend pass the end of the current calendar year, it may be time to re-assess our viewing Dach as a certain top 6 player for this team going forward.
Bad season, nobody disagrees.
 

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