Kyle Turris was ranked high because scouts loved his skill set, not because he ripped up an inferior league. And IMO he's still on track to becoming a great player.
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In defense of Turris, Kyle has improved statistically each and every year of his career. Kind of silly to call him a bust knowing that, and the fact that he has yet to reach 22nd birthday. Plus, it's not like playing for an NHL franchise in disarray is a nurturing environment for any prospect.
what a player I think he will be when he puts on some 20-30 lb and gets a little quicker...unless Florida ruins him.
I think RNH Stome and Huberdeau all excell in the NHL. Till Couturier can show he can produce amongst his peers I question his ability to be a star in the NHL jmo.
Corey Locke was drafted as an overager and because he put up 151 pts..
oh yeah he was also a poor skater, small and not physical... the complete opposite of Huberdeau.
IMO Huberdeau look more like a bigger Claude Giroux !
Cats Grab Memorial Cup MVP Huberdeau at No. 3
http://nhlhotstove.com/cats-grab-memorial-cup-mvp-huberdeau-at-no-3/
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The more I think about it, what does Huberdeau have to gain from returning to the Q? It's only downhill for him on the junior front. If it's about putting on weight, the league he's in is irrelevant. If Dineen is as good with young players as he has been touted and with the Panthers expected to contend for nothing but next year's No. 1 overall pick, there should be zero pressure on JH to carry Florida.
Freudian
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It's not irrelevant which league he is in. Weighing 170 pounds in the QMJHL is fine. Doing the same in the NHL will be a nightmare for the player.
Rushing a player like Huberdeau, who isn't physically ready, into the NHL isn't helping anyone. It's idiotic.
And what can he possibly accomplish in '11-'12 with the Sea Dogs to improve on '10-'11?
-He can add more weight.
-He can improve at center, where the Cats will want him to play.
-He can continue to improve his offensive and defensive skills.
-He can play a prominent roll for Team Canada at the Juniors.
Huberdeau can probably play in the NHL next season because of his skillset, but he is NOT ready physically. Its a similar situation with Gudbranson last year, only with Guds last year, it was his offensive game that needed tweaking, which happened when he returned to his junior club. Tallon said that they will not be rushing their prospects anymore, like what happened previously with other GMs here.
I like how you can predict that the Panthers are only going to contend for the #1 pick next year, when they dont even have half a roster yet
Freudian
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It's more about how his development can be wrecked by thrusting him into the NHL when he clearly isn't ready.
Another year in juniors and he can bulk up and polish all those skills he is going to need to succeed to when he takes the next step. Remember this is a small guy that has been really good for one year. It's not like he entered CHL as an under aged player and has dominated at that stage for three years.
You're ignoring the facts that not only does Huberdeau have nothing left to prove in Canadian major junior hockey, but that if he were to stay with Florida, he'd be in a pressure-free situation with an NHL club not expected to make the playoffs any time soon.
Freudian
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It's not about him proving anything in juniors. It's about doing what is best for his development as a player.
I'm glad NHL teams (for the most part) aren't as impatient as you are.
The Angry Teatowel
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Erm, did Huberdeau change leagues?
All the Couturier bashing is ridiculous, as is trying to evaluate the 2011 draft already. Come back in 2 years, at the very, very minimum.
Freudian
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Are the opponents also going to buy into this no-pressure philosophy and take it easy on the guy that managed one bench press at the combine?
If he isn't ready, he isn't ready. No matter what coach you have or role you have for him on the team. If he isn't ready, he shouldn't be in the NHL. How hard could it be to understand this very basic point?
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Huberdeau shows up when playing against his peers preformed well at Memorial cup Couturier did f all at WJC as well as prospect game and playoffs. He also easily had more minutes then any other I named. Been watching this game 41 years nothing about Couturiers skill shows he will be a star. Till he does I stand by my opinion.Erm, did Huberdeau change leagues?
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Krejci is also not 18 year old. He started getting regular NHL shifts as a 21 year old.
So now you're jumping to the issue of JH's age? Weight. Age. Weight. Age. Which is it? Do you even know what you are arguing for?
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I've been talking about NHL readiness all along. It's the sum of many things.
Pretty much every scout says he isn't NHL ready. So why are you arguing that he should play in the NHL?
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Recsguy, you're not looking at this realistically. Some guys are ready right away, sure, but those guys are few and far between. With Huberdeau, from what I've heard (e.g. Bobby Mac said it 'would be a crime, if he's in the NHL next year'), he sounds like a player who wouldn't just 'gain nothing' from playing in the NHL, but could have his career ruined by it. Don't you think it's possible Gilbert Brule's career could have gone differently if he hadn't been rushed and subsequently injured (repeatedly) by Columbus?
