Movies: Joker: Folie a Deux

Blitzkrug

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Why they went for a musical is something i'll never understand.

And then the bait and switch with Lady Gaga being a major focal point of the advertising only for her to barely show up apparently?

Who thought this was a good idea? Like I didn't think the first movie was a grand cinematic revelation like some people did, but it was entertaining enough.
 
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beowulf

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No one expects “Joker: Folie à Deux” to come close to the original’s $96 million opening (adjusted, closer to $110 million). Industry consensus is closer to $55 million-$60 million, but some sources suggest not even a $50 million opening is guaranteed.

 

Adam Warlock

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I saw it and actually liked it. I say that as someone who absolutley loved the first.

It was a big a swing and I get why people see it as a miss. Philips was pretty open about not wanting to make a franchise about the crown prince of crime and that if he was gonna make a sequal he wanted it to be different so i went in with those expectations.

The ending disappinted a bit and it didnt have the satisfying comic nods of the first...but what I appreciated about it was it focused on the themes that were really relevent in the first film. The music stuff was weird but music and arthurs delusions were a huge part of the first film and thats basically what he explored in this one... so it didnt feel like a stretch to me.

I probably wont revisit this as much as the first but i did enjoy it.
 
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Matty Sundin

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Really wasn’t as bad I thought it would be considering the reception I been reading. The bad reviews seem like it’s more so fanboys having a “worst episode ever” tantrum. I’m not calling it a masterpiece either but I didn’t think the first one was like some people claim.

The musical theme didn’t bother me as much I thought it was going to. To me it was ok for what it was and not a film for everyone’s taste, which you could say the first one was as well but had a different taste to it.
 

BigBadBruins7708

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I think they were out to play with expectations of what a sequel could be

Yeah, felt to me like a "you fans that idolize Arthur/Joker in the 1st movie clearly didnt get the point of the movie" to me, which I'm ok with. They definitely pushed back against the "sweet lets go cheer for the Joker to do Joker things" expectations and said no, we told you Arthur is a mental case and shouldn't be idolized and here's what you get.

Which I have to say I really enjoyed that. It was refreshing to get something fresh in a sequel rather than the standard superhero formula of "movie 1 you get the origin and a flash of powers, movie 2 you get all the superhero s***"
 
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Pierce Hawthorne

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Yeah I was excited for this and even the trailer looked fantastic. But obviously it's a massive bomb.


I won't see it in theaters, probably wait and see it when it goes online.
 

PeteWorrell

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They should have stuck to the idea of only doing one film.

Trying to subvert expectations while not making sense in the overall narrative, does not make you clever.
 

John Price

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I actually liked the first one, it was brilliant in my opinion and Phoenix stole the show. Did a great job.

Amazing how far it fell. I'm kind of tempted to see Phoenix again but I don't want a musical. I want a drama.

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I'll give them credit for trying something different, but doing so with a bigger budget than the first one, which was actually good, seems like a poor decision. But spending too much money to make not great movies that then do poorly at the box office seems to be a thing lately.
 

Satans Hockey

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This movie is basically historic, had an 81% drop in its second weekend, beating a record that the 2009 Friday the 13th movie held.

This is such a colossal failure it's crazy. Paul Blart 2 and Cocaine Bear have made more money in the theater than it. The word of mouth is so bad people aren't even curious to go check it out to hate watch, it's just fascinating.
 
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CDJ

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This movie is basically historic, had an 81% drop in its second weekend, beating a record that the 2009 Friday the 13th movie held.

This is such a colossal failure it's crazy. Paul Blart 2 and Cocaine Bear have made more money in the theater than it. The word of mouth is so bad people aren't even curious to go check it out to hate watch, it's just fascinating.
Got smoked by another clown movie this weekend too, tough scenes
 

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