Proposal: Johnson (TB) for Fowler (ANA) + 2nd.
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CupsOverCash
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The difference between a #2 D and a #4 D is not "slight." I cannot fathom you actually watching the Lightning on a regular basis and thinking Coburn is remotely comparable to Stralman.
I love Coburn. He's a great physical shutdown defenseman and one of the best #4 D in the league, but Stralman isn't just slightly better than him. Stralman has some of the best puck possession and offensive corsii stats in the league, while Coburn is barely adequate from our blueline out.
As to the trade, would be worth considering if Fowler was right handed. There is still the expansion draft problem, but I'd consider pulling the trigger with the expectation that I'd make another deal to clear out a reserve spot.
As to the trade, would be worth considering if Fowler was right handed. There is still the expansion draft problem, but I'd consider pulling the trigger with the expectation that I'd make another deal to clear out a reserve spot.
eternalbedhead
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If Fowler was signed for longer than two years, then TB probably might bite. He shouldn't want a huge raise, but I don't think TB wants that kind of uncertainty especially considering that Fowler will be hitting UFA.
Anaheim says hell no since Johnson will give us another RFA hell to deal with next year (we don't have any big contracts coming off the books until Bieksa and Stoner two years from now) while only saving us a little over 650K in cap.
Anaheim says hell no since Johnson will give us another RFA hell to deal with next year (we don't have any big contracts coming off the books until Bieksa and Stoner two years from now) while only saving us a little over 650K in cap.
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Value wise it's close, but both teams are in a little bit of cap he'll and neither move really helps each other with their contract situations
WhatTheDuck
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Yeah I agree, I'd say this makes a lot more sense from our end than it does for the Bolts.
Fowler doesn't have any effect on salary problems this is a common misconception. Moving only Despres gives them enough cap to sign both Rakell/Lindholm, then there's Stoner who can be packaged with a good draft pick for free as a cap dump. But again, Despres gets it done and he's an asset with decent trade value.
The Fowler for winger trade rumors stemmed more from Anaheim needing a top-6 LW, they have 0 of them right now. They let in the least goals in the NHL last year, Theodore is rapidly improving and montour is knocking on the door as well as larsson and pettersson down the line, so that would simply be a hockey trade not a camp relief. Also, it's a future move as Fowler will probably be walking to UFA and he would waste a protection spot in the expansion draft.
How can a guy making 4m who's worth more, the ducks most cost-effective/bang for buck asset, be traded in a camp dump? That's like Chicago trading duncan keith, their most bang for buck contract, to save cap. That's the last player you move in a cap dump. Despres, Stoner, and many more players go first if its simply a cap move.
Ducks are in win-now mode. The only way a player like Fowler goes is for a high-impact winger.
RegularSznAllStars
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What would ANA do next year when Johnson wants a raise? This gives them room now (a very small amount), but would cost them next year.
Also, no ****ing way Tampa does this. Johnson is arguably their number 1 center, and can carry this team in the playoffs. No thanks.
Also, no ****ing way Tampa does this. Johnson is arguably their number 1 center, and can carry this team in the playoffs. No thanks.
Fro
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From a defense perspective doesn't make much sense for Tampa...and from an offensive perspective, it only does if Point is ready for top 6 minutes and I can't see how anyone would think that...
I like a 1-2 punch down the middle way too much for this trade. It seems like Yzerman does too, given TB's depth at C. Maybe in a couple of years, if Brayden Point proves he can replace TJ, a move like this will be explored. As of now, Johnson, when he's healthy (which is admittedly kind of rare) might well be the best center on this team.
bert
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Except make them better so there is that. He instantly becomes the teams 3rd best forward and adds alot of speed to a top 6 that isnt that fast.
With Montour and Sanheim coming I think this is a pretty good deal for the Ducks.
Id be suprised to see Tampa do it though as they are in win now mode.
dracom
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Unless he can play LW, it's not a huge help for us. Plus, we'd probably have to trade him next season because there's no way we could afford his next contract. So we would end up trading Fowler and 2nd for rental. No thanks.
Also, we don't have Sanheim...
Just to clarify for others:
We do not have 12 NHL level forwards at the moment that is just wrong to say that. Johnson WOULD be a great help for us but it wouldn`t adress the problem but rather stack the RW side.
