Proposal: Johnson for Grigorenko+

[Kshahdoo]

So Grigorenko played with Kucherov in the MHL and on Team Russia at WJC and had a great chemistry. Another winger on that line was Gusev, who's a Tampa prospect and one of the KHL top scorers.

Grigorenko is younger and way cheaper, than Johnson. And Johnson is obviously a better player right now. But with Tampa's cap situation, they will lose him or Palat anyway, so to get a full Russian line, where all three are close friends and are on the same page as to understanding of hockey and everything would be a nice alternative.

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[Meeqs]

So Grigorenko played with Kucherov in the MHL and on Team Russia at WJC and had a great chemistry. Another winger on that line was Gusev, who's a Tampa prospect and one of the KHL top scorers.

Grigorenko is younger and way cheaper, than Johnson. And Johnson is obviously a better player right now. But with Tampa's cap situation, they will lose him or Palat anyway, so to get a full Russian line, where all three are close friends and are on the same page as to understanding of hockey and everything would be a nice alternative.

Avs have pretty much no cap and don't need a center already having Duchene and Mackinnon.

Also Grigs would be a very weird player to target if you were planning to move a player of Johnsons caliber.

Also no to mention TBL are going all in this season and have decided to worry about the cap when it comes. Its why they resigned both Stammer and Killorn and didn't trade Bishop when they had the chance.

 

[Avs44]

Avs have pretty much no cap and don't need a center already having Duchene and Mackinnon.

Also Grigs would be a very weird player to target if you were planning to move a player of Johnsons caliber.

Also no to mention TBL are going all in this season and have decided to worry about the cap when it comes. Its why they resigned both Stammer and Killorn and didn't trade Bishop when they had the chance.

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Grigorenko's value nowhere near approaches Johnson's right now, and the Avs really don't have the impetus or room to add what it would take to even consider getting a deal done. Even if Tampa decides to move on from Johnson due to cap reasons (which wouldn't happen this year regardless), I imagine they could target a much better young forward.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Avs have pretty much no cap and don't need a center already having Duchene and Mackinnon.

Also Grigs would be a very weird player to target if you were planning to move a player of Johnsons caliber.

Also no to mention TBL are going all in this season and have decided to worry about the cap when it comes. Its why they resigned both Stammer and Killorn and didn't trade Bishop when they had the chance.

He has a lot of talent and it looks like starting to play as a player, who once was considered as a top prospect. And as I said, getting him, Kucherov and Gusev together can potentially provide Tampa with a very interesting line, which will be way cheaper than Triplets for awhile.

 

[strictlyrandy]

This really depends on how the Avs intend to utilize Duchene and MacKinnon. If they're going to play with each other on a line and leaving Soderberg as the 2c (and then exposing him at the expansion draft), I would honestly be fine with a basis of this. The problem though rests in the quality of wings the Avs have, not centers. So while it's not an awful basis, I also don't see it making a lot of sense given the needs for either team. Drouin would be a more appealing target in that regard.

 

[Halla]

the plus would have to be immense. start with the avs 1st and then add

also johnson is easily gonna be protected.

Stamkos,Callahan,Filpulla, Johnson,Palat,Kucherov,Drouin.

 

[strictlyrandy]

the plus would have to be immense. start with the avs 1st and then add

also johnson is easily gonna be protected.

Stamkos,Callahan,Filpulla, Johnson,Palat,Kucherov,Drouin.

So you'd leave Killorn exposed?

Kuch doesn't have a deal currently either, so you're presuming he's on the roster when he may not be.

 

[trick9]

I can't see Tampa trading Johnson with Grigorenko being the main piece coming back. Avs would need to add alot, and i think Tampa would ask for Rantanen.

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

avs are excited to see what they have in grig this year, and lets not pretend the avs are way under the cap themselves and can just take on tons of salary...

 

[FinnLightning26]

So you'd leave Killorn exposed?

Kuch doesn't have a deal currently either, so you're presuming he's on the roster when he may not be.

Kuch will be on the roster for years to come and yes, Killer will probably be left exposed.

 

[strictlyrandy]

I can't see Tampa trading Johnson with Grigorenko being the main piece coming back. Avs would need to add alot, and i think Tampa would ask for Rantanen.

Which is where the Avs would balk, well I don't think they'd be inquiring about Tyler Johnson in the first place as a center is the last thing they need.

Avs need wingers.

 

[strictlyrandy]

Kuch will be on the roster for years to come and yes, Killer will probably be left exposed.

I'll believe Kuch is gonna be on the roster for a while when he has a deal. Sucks they're losing Bishop, but they have such little space to give raises to Drouin, Johnson, and Palat that I think they're gonna end up having to trade one of them. If Killorn gets claimed, that'd be a bonus for them.

 

[Avsblitzkrieg]

Colorado needs to stand Pat. Johnson is a fine player. But I'm not trading rants and grigs for him. Rants and grigs fill in quality depth.

 

[DFC]

I'll believe Kuch is gonna be on the roster for a while when he has a deal. Sucks they're losing Bishop, but they have such little space to give raises to Drouin, Johnson, and Palat that I think they're gonna end up having to trade one of them. If Killorn gets claimed, that'd be a bonus for them.

If we do have to trade one, there's no reason to make that trade now. Let's see how the season plays out and reassess.

All reports are saying Johnson is healthy for the first time in about a year. Let's see if he can get back to 14/15 form, and (maybe more importantly) STAY healthy, before we sell him off.

 

[TT1]

the plus would have to be immense. start with the avs 1st and then add

also johnson is easily gonna be protected.

Stamkos,Callahan,Filpulla, Johnson,Palat,Kucherov,Drouin.

lmao Callahan isnt getting protected, TB will be praying for Vegas to take that contract off their hands.

 

[DFC]

lmao Callahan isnt getting protected, TB will be praying for Vegas to take that contract off their hands.

He has a NMC.

 

[Treb]

lmao Callahan isnt getting protected, TB will be praying for Vegas to take that contract off their hands.

FYI, Callahan has a NMC so he's automatically protected. You should inform yourself before laughing at other posters.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

How about Grigorenko+ for Drouin instead?

 

[RegularSznAllStars]

Better be a REAL good plus... This deal sucks

 

[DFC]

I really don't understand why TB would be targeting Grigorenko. The OP mentioned in another thread he'd like to see an old MHL line reunited, but I don't think it would serve the TB Lightning at all.

 

[Halla]

So you'd leave Killorn exposed?

Kuch doesn't have a deal currently either, so you're presuming he's on the roster when he may not be.

the 40pt 3rd liner making 4.5 mil until 2023? yeah id probably leave him exposed over a guy with 72 pts 2 seasons ago

 

[Halla]

FYI, Callahan has a NMC so he's automatically protected. You should inform yourself before laughing at other posters.

par for the course here. that poster isnt even worth responding to.

too bad ignore doesnt work both ways

 

[strictlyrandy]

the 40pt 3rd liner making 4.5 mil until 2023? yeah id probably leave him exposed over a guy with 72 pts 2 seasons ago

I didn't say Johnson should be exposed. Was curious about Killorn as I don't know how TB fans view him. I wasn't a fan of his contract, but I never really watched him either.

I think he'd be a good claim for a new team regardless.

 

[DFC]

I didn't say Johnson should be exposed. Was curious about Killorn as I don't know how TB fans view him. I wasn't a fan of his contract, but I never really watched him either.

I think he'd be a good claim for a new team regardless.

I would say a majority of us feel like he'll be exposed to Vegas.

 

[dahrougem2]

Tampa Bay says no pretty easily.