In Memoriam Johnny Gaudreau & Matthew Gaudreau killed by drunk driver while cycling (MOD WARNING. No Flaming, Trolling, or Politics.)

[Lshap]

Agreed - let's move on. (This is an official HFBoards staff statement and shall be interpreted as such.)

Anyone in before this post is grandfathered in.

A reminder of the above staff-statement. ^

This is not the place for a legal debate. Please remember your personal anger over what happened and the legal interpretation of what happened are two very different things.

 

[JPT]

It’s not about feelings. It’s about the value of two peoples’ lives.

Valuing human life the way you're talking about is subjective and specifically based on emotion. Semantics are incredibly important in legal contexts because the meaning of words matters to the application of law. It really sounds like what you're arguing against is what you perceive to be someone arbitrarily using a term so they can argue for a shorter sentence, but what you've ended up doing is arbitrarily using a term to argue for a longer sentence.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Every time I see his name it hurts.

I still can't believe this happened, it still doesn't feel real. Of all the players.

 

[Jack Spider]

Don't drink and drive. Please go to AA if this message goes right through your ears.

 

[Mike C]

Most drunk driving cases don’t involve running over two people and killing them.

not to mention prior aggressive driving then leaving the scene

Don't drink and drive. Please go to AA if this message goes right through your ears.

or call an uber at the very least. ---been going to meetings since since sept '96. better way of life!!

 

[JPT]

Don't drink and drive. Please go to AA if this message goes right through your ears.

And more broadly, slow the f*** down. Learn how to leave earlier, and learn how to be OK with being late.

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

And more broadly, slow the f*** down. Learn how to leave earlier, and learn how to be OK with being late.

Just saw someone lay on the horn hard behind a car turning right.

The car turning right was waiting on a pedestrian walking.

People have zero patience. Wishful thinking unfortunately & I have a feeling it’ll only get worse

 

[majormajor]

Just saw someone lay on the horn hard behind a car turning right.

The car turning right was waiting on a pedestrian walking.

People have zero patience. Wishful thinking unfortunately & I have a feeling it’ll only get worse

I almost got hit the other day walking in a crosswalk. The first car stopped, and the car coming up behind them must have thought they were stopped for no reason, because they veered around to the left lane at full speed and blew right past me. I had to jump back to avoid getting hit. Come to think of it, it's not too different from the scenario where the Gaudreau's got killed.

People have zero patience. They also just forget that pedestrians and cyclists exist. There is a level of impatience and blood boiling anger that comes from sitting in traffic and it makes drivers put human life in jeopardy. Even sometimes when people see you they do things that are insane. In day to day life, outside of a vehicle, these are probably all nice people, but behind the wheel they become something else.

 

[CarolinaBlueJacket]

And more broadly, slow the f*** down. Learn how to leave earlier, and learn how to be OK with being late.

I don't think this guy was even in a hurry to get anywhere. He was just driving around.

 

[majormajor]

I don't think this guy was even in a hurry to get anywhere. He was just driving around.

He was in a hurry to nowhere.

 

[nightonthesun]

There are so many rage-addled, life-threateningly reckless Pickup Truck Douches like him in NJ. Every time I get on the highway, one of these assholes is doing something that could get someone killed on the wrong day. Maybe it’s like that elsewhere, too; I don’t know. Either way— turning down the plea deal is very on brand with how that type of guy drives. I’m so sad for the family. I don’t care that his plea deal sucked or that it was worse because they were famous. Other cases being too lenient is the problem— adjusting this to be consistent with those cases would be an ethically ridiculous choice.

 

[JPT]

I almost got hit the other day walking in a crosswalk. The first car stopped, and the car coming up behind them must have thought they were stopped for no reason, because they veered around to the left lane at full speed and blew right past me. I had to jump back to avoid getting hit. Come to think of it, it's not too different from the scenario where the Gaudreau's got killed.

People have zero patience. They also just forget that pedestrians and cyclists exist. There is a level of impatience and blood boiling anger that comes from sitting in traffic and it makes drivers put human life in jeopardy. Even sometimes when people see you they do things that are insane. In day to day life, outside of a vehicle, these are probably all nice people, but behind the wheel they become something else.

Yeah it's almost like we have been so hounded to constantly be productive that we always feel like we have to be in a rush and lose all patience.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Every time I see his name it hurts.

I still can't believe this happened, it still doesn't feel real. Of all the players.

Feels like it still would've been just as tragic if some AHL lifer had been senselessly killed instead, so I don't get this comment.

 

[Viqsi]

Feels like it still would've been just as tragic if some AHL lifer had been senselessly killed instead, so I don't get this comment.

WYTD's a huge fan of Johnny.

 

[Dr Pepper]

WYTD's a huge fan of Johnny.

Fair enough, guess I misinterpreted it.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Feels like it still would've been just as tragic if some AHL lifer had been senselessly killed instead, so I don't get this comment.

Yeah, he was my favorite player. Just for some context - if you search my posts containing "Gaudreau", it shows 1,946 posts in the last ~13 years. That's an average of 150 posts per year, nearly 3 a week.

 

[canadianguy77]

Yeah it's almost like we have been so hounded to constantly be productive that we always feel like we have to be in a rush and lose all patience.

Doesn’t give you a right to act like an asshole to your fellow plebs. If you’re angry at the system, at least be angry at the right people.

 

[JPT]

Doesn’t give you a right to act like an asshole to your fellow plebs. If you’re angry at the system, at least be angry at the right people.

I'm not sure why you think I was saying anything to the contrary.