Seravalli: Johnny Gaudreau informed the Flames he will not be returning

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Melrose Munch

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Remove the salary cap and I think they'd still have a hard time retaining a lot of American players.
And what about the Spezza's of the world back in the day? Born and raised in Canada. The cap is a lie and it's time to let go of the parity myth.
 

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Because the goal is to win the cup. Calgary was in 1st place and there was no way they were trading Gaudreau.

Imagine if Colorado traded Kadri because they didn’t want to lose him for nothing.
Kadri isn't a franchise forward. Doesn't drive the offense and doesn't put butts in the seats.

Calgary going into that season didn't expect anything. They were an average roster that started slow. And it's been rumored that Gaudreau would walk for years.

When you're speaking specifically about long-term success of a franchise, losing an asset of that significance with zero compensation is the largest step back you can take.
 

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3 different parts of Western Canada, 2 could be visited on a day trip from Calgary, the 3rd would need to be a weekend trip. You might want to go back to whatever geography class you flunked and try again.

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Totally, I mean who would want to live 45 minutes away from this?

Loud streets full of sidewalks with garbage all over the place, high crime rates, and small overpriced apartments beat this though amirite?
 

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Nicest way one can possibly put this but…

If you have a choice of being closer to your family and being a multimillionaire..

I would assume Calgary is pretty far down the list of places these guys want to be.
Have you visited the city? I've been to plenty of NHL cities and Calgary is world class. There is a ton of Oil and Gas wealth here and you are 45 minutes from the rocky mountains.
 
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Depends what you are into. I personally rather the mountain and fresh apposed to smoke, smug and high crime but hey thats just me.

Let's be honest nowhere in Canada has a real crime problem(at least comparing it to the States). I actually am surprised that most the worst cities in Canada per capita are like cities that are 100-250k, all the biggies don't even rate that high.

All I know is I live in Thunder Bay and we generally have one of the highest murders per capitas in the country and I feel safe and not in some war zone
 

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Third best place to live in the world according to rankings.

But he is from Philly so no hard feelings. I don't think it was solely his decision either.

I think Guadreau could care less about world rankings on where to live.
Guys from Northeast US, if he wants to move there by all means he has the right since he's a free agent.
 

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New Yorker here who took a trip out to those parts in October 2019 and I can say that Lake Louise (and the surrounding area) is one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen.

Of course that's rarely a reason for a professional athlete to want to sign in any city, but to call Western Canada "frozen tundra" is just standard uninformed internet trolling by someone hiding behind a keyboard.
Moraine Lake is more beautiful IMO. Agree otherwise.
 
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This is much to Calgary than it is Edmonton isn't it? :laugh:
No. Edmonton is about 3 hours from Jasper. It's a 40 minute drive to Canmore and an hour to Banff from Calgary.

About the same time it takes the average torontonian to drive 10km on the 401
 
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Calgary is a fantastic city. No doubt.

It‘s a world class city in pretty much every measurable way, literally one of the best cities in the world to live in.

The mountains 45 minutes away never cease to be breathtaking.

Philadelphia isn’t even close to comparable to Calgary as a city.
 

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I think this is what will happen. The fans and media are going to expect Gaudreau to get 100 points and he won't because the team isn't good. Gaudreau is not going to help the team if he is not scoring, so immediately after one year the fans and media will turn on him. They might give him 2 years, but he is never going to repeat this past year and after two years the fans and media will bemoan the awful contract.

I suppose if Ellis comes back healthy and Risto and Hayes have a transformation under Torts, the team might make the playoffs, but this roster is nowhere close to a Cup contender. Everything will have to be perfect for this team to make the playoffs.

I think Fletcher will be given a promotion in the organization where he can be a part of the sick and twisted ruling class of Clark and Holmgren where they are intent to see the team fail, apparently, since all they do is kil lthe team's future.
Well unfortunately for most Flyers fans until they get rid of Clarke, Holmgren and Fletcher nothing will change. The Flyers organization went downhill when their owner Ed Snider passed away and Dave Scott & Comcast took over. The Flyers fanbase is tough and expects hard work so if Gaudreau signs with them he'll find out the hard way. As for Ellis I truly believe he's done and will end up on LTIR because his hip isn't great and he's unable to play, another brilliant trade by Fletcher. This is the main reason after 45 years as a fan I don't have much interest in following this team too closely but will keep tabs on them periodically, it's because I'm done with Fletcher. Thank god for the NFL starting up soon. I'll cross my fingers that the Flyers don't sign Gaudreau.
 
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Have you visited the city? I've been to plenty of NHL cities and Calgary is world class. There is a ton of Oil and Gas wealth here and you are 45 minutes from the rocky mountains.

To a multi millionaire having the choice to pick where they want to live, I can almost promise you, Calgary is not a place high on a large majority of peoples lists.
 
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No. Edmonton is about 3 hours from Jasper. It's a 40 minute drive to Canmore and an hour to Banff from Calgary.

About the same time it takes the average torontonian to drive 10km on the 401

Oh Jasper. Thought you were talking about Lake Louise which is actually the one we hear more about from over there.

Actually the opposite, if you want to go to scenic parks, there's a lot less traffic going that way from Toronto. Like Niagra Falls/Niagra Glen Park/Tobermory/Algonquin Park is closer to Toronto than any of these to EDM/Calgary. It's driving into the city where there's traffic.

But I mean the population speaks. The vast majority of the people and businesses pick Toronto/Vancouver over Edmonton/Calgary.
 
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It‘s a world class city in pretty much every measurable way, literally one of the best cities in the world to live in.

The mountains 45 minutes away never cease to be breathtaking.

Philadelphia isn’t even close to comparable to Calgary as a city.
Agree, actually wouldn't mind moving there one day.
 
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